FormallyFamicom
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The bonus cards were posted on Hearthpwn quite a while ago, perhaps during the Winterveil update datamine.
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Hearthstone |OT5| Corrupted Deeprock Salt
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The bonus cards were posted on Hearthpwn quite a while ago, perhaps during the Winterveil update datamine.
poppedcollar69
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such good legendary luck in the past couple weeks
velen, alakir, & voljin #2
velen, alakir, & voljin #2
Can you mill a face hunter? Answer: Yes, you can.
Mill decks stomp all over something like Freeze Mage. They can abuse something like a Control Warrior or Reno Lock pretty bad too. Sky-high skill cap against most decks, though. That's the real reason it will never be top tier. You can't just play shit on curve like a Paladin.
Makes me wish they would buff underused cards even more. The amount of untapped variety in this game is unbelievable. I really hate their anti-buff/nerf philosophy. (And even then, they would then overdo it.)
TetraxShards
Member
Five Paladins in a row.
Five Coin -> Shielded Minibot turn 1 in a row.
This fucking game.
Five Coin -> Shielded Minibot turn 1 in a row.
This fucking game.
Don't want to rain on your parade but that draft is pure
Congrats anyway
hopefully face shaman dies off, it's just so bad for rogue. Rogue is ok against druid and freeze mage and pretty good against secret paladin. It could be a good ladder choice again. But if freeze mage is popular, cw morons will come back again, it's just running in a circle. It's funny no matter what happens, secret paladin is still great, it really doesn't have an unwinnable match up. Just curve well and it will beat anything.
Officerrob
Banned
They need to stop being cute. Aggro Shaman was never Tier 1 (let alone the #1 overall deck like they had it). Also, until new cards are introduced or cards are nerfed, Secret Pally is the best (worst) deck in the game, period.
Haven't we more or less established that Liquidhearth's Power Ranks is the superior meta list?
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/hearthstone/499776-power-ranks-121-paladin-hangs-on
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/hearthstone/499776-power-ranks-121-paladin-hangs-on
That Thijs/Ostkaka match at the WC was the best game of HS I've watched so far where they were counting fatique dmg, pinging themselves etc. Much much more enjoyable than the Face Hunter mirrors we were having earlier in the year.
Haunted
Member
It's not like things always change week to week, especially when there are no new cards, decks or nerfs. Sometimes they just have to shuffle some stuff around to justify even putting out a separate snapshot. No one would click on the article if it was literally the same as last week.
In Liquid we trust.
I remember when Wallet Warrior meant something.
It was exciting because it doesn't happen a lot. If every game was like that then HS would start to die out pretty quickly.
That's more like it although Maly and CW a bit high on that list.
That's a good one
Blizz is still giving players the chance to find the epic counter to Secredin, while everyone who has progressed past rank 20 understands that there's no counter to a perfect curve. Then we'll get some Weblord-/Exorcist-tier "tech cards" in the next expansion which will do nothing but annoy arena players. At that point Blizzard's next move depends on one thing: did Paladin get another beyond broken card or just four ridiculous ones? If it's the former they'll nerf MC as everyone is busy pumping money into packs trying to get the new Dr., otherwise it stays on the "watchlist" for another year like Boom while players can keep enjoying the fun and interactive Paladin deck building challenge. Brawl's open all year, come in and say hello.
This is a really old ranking, though. TempoStorm at least stays updated. Even if they do make some baffling picks.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Confess, bitch.
"Took a break for the holidays. Next edition is in the works now."
Control priest is really underrated in this meta.
Professor Lich
Member
What happened? I'll be honest, this is kind of a first I think.
Also, this reminds me, I have to find the Brann / Echoing Ooze dream. It should make three Oozes, right?
Ben Brode's Twitter said something about it shouldn't interact with Brann the way the text on EO is worded.
Professor Lich
Member
I haven't even played a game and the dream is already dead. That's a huge bummer but I guess it makes sense if Ooze makes a duplicate when it's not your turn.
Thanks for the heads up.
That's kinda bullshit. It's probably a technical thing, because that really isn't an obvious exception.
Professor Lich
Member
Oh, just had another random idea. It's probably terrible but the is reason why I'm sharing it. What made me think it about it was trying to figure out how Warlocks could 'pay' for more powerful cards. They already have cards that take Health, Cards, and Mana, and there are cards that destroy their minion or give your opponent Mana. What if Warlocks could give up a turn as a resource? So basically something like this;
So again, I'm not thinking about this as something Warlocks or the game needs but merely as a new idea in how Warlocks can sacrifice or pay for a powerful demon. Hard to say if even a huge advantage like that would even be worthwhile considering how important it is to play something on every turn though.
Also, I know that in MTG, there are ways to skip turns, does anyone know if there are cards where a player will willingly skip their turn for a benefit?
So again, I'm not thinking about this as something Warlocks or the game needs but merely as a new idea in how Warlocks can sacrifice or pay for a powerful demon. Hard to say if even a huge advantage like that would even be worthwhile considering how important it is to play something on every turn though.
Also, I know that in MTG, there are ways to skip turns, does anyone know if there are cards where a player will willingly skip their turn for a benefit?
BananasWithGuns
Member
Golden Tuskarr Totemic, golden Spawn of Shadows and a Dreadsteed. Nice pack to cap off hitting rank 5.
Whenever I see the FoN/SR combo I just roll my eyes now. every. time.
Finn of Ooo
Member
Not really, EO isn't a battle cry, it's more similar to emperor in that it activates at the end of the turn. Battlecries activate technically before the minion even enters the field which is why you get the flame ele -> mad scientist -> mirror entity issue
Professor Lich
Member
They should probably remove the keyword then, if they even can. I could see that if they need to use the Battle Cry system for it to clone itself but there should be a way for them to hide the keyword.
I'm curious as to why they have to use that keyword now. Chances are it's because Battle Cries only trigger once where Special Effects trigger whenever a condition is met.
I'm pretty sure match making is rigged. The game goes out of its way to match me with somebody 2 ranks ahead of me just to fetch the worst possible match up. It's like you're required to beat that worst case for last game to rank up.
Punished for not playing Paladin
Sounds about right.
I say this every week... Blizzard aren't going to nerf MC until everyone here starts playing Secret Paladin on Ladder. The honor code bull shit just feeds into Blizzard's faulty statistics.
CraigerGamer
Member
Though most have probably moved on from this conversation but when it comes back up again...
What is you simply changed Mysterious Challenger from a battlecry to a deathrattle?
What is you simply changed Mysterious Challenger from a battlecry to a deathrattle?
Rosenskjold
Member
4-5 games of ranked so far, and I'm done with this seasons, just one stupid aggro deck after the other :/
BananasWithGuns
Member
Would probably still need a stat nerf. 5/5 or 4/5, something along those lines.
I think you can leave MC alone stats wise and keep it a powerful card but not insane, buy saying it can only pull 1 (maybe 2?) secrets. Pick 2 at random from the deck. You get to keep the powerful body but lose the ability to "Christmas tree" all the powerful secrets at once. It would force secret pallies to chose which of those secrets they really want to play. Likely most would keep Avenge and Noble Sac, which means that they lose the Redemption, Competitive Spirt, etc. That seems like the easiest fix.
Except it doesn't fix much since they would run the same amount of secrets and get rewarded since it filters all the same.
Look what they did to Patron. You better believe when they nerf Mysterious Challenger they won't go easy on it.
It's a battlecry. It says it right on the card. It created two 2/3s in this week's Brawl.
If it worked like emperor it would continue to spawn oozes at the end of each Turn.
MMaRsu
Member
Wanna go against my warrior?
i'm struggling against secret paladins.....i was playing a violet teacher druid and for me to win he had to make the mistake of playing a Mysterious Challenger and Zombie chow when i had a wraith and BGH in hand. Even with that, he quickly rebuilt the board a muster, knife juggler, blessing in two turns. Keeper of Uldamon kills my druid of the claw taunt :/
Finn of Ooo
Member
Hmm true that is weird, I never saw it as a battle cry since it doesn't activate till the end of turn. They should probably re-label the card then because it doesn't act like any other battle cry.
Or you could see it like this "battle cry: minion creates copy of itself at end of round. So brand activates that twice and the card goes 'make copy of self at end of round' and then again goes 'make copy of self at end of round'". So in a sense it does activate twice it just doesn't change the impact of the battle cry similarly to iron beak or big game.
It's similar to Lotheb. Battlecry at its base lets you know the effect only works the turn you play the card.
Edit: If echoing ooze doesn't work with Brann, I do feel that that it's a programming error. Rito pls.
I've tried almost everything now, secret paladin, druid, patron, face shaman etc. except priest.
I've been getting the best results with renolock for rank 4-5. it's like the most consistent one to me, I'm actually going up now finally.
Secret paladin is bad, because everyone is targeting it kinda with face decks now or freeze mage, mirror games are coin flip too. I don't think it's as good where everyone is playing it, every third game is against secret paladin for me, It's the most cancerous deck ever, or it could be bots too. There is just sooo many of them.
Druid is almost same now, goddamn you just fold to mirror entity or patrons. Mirror games, you draw bad lose board gg.
Patron is bad too, you lose to every control deck there is.
Face hunter/shaman lose to reno. still not easy if you don't get reno.
Rogue is decent too but I get like every face shaman on ladder.
Priest loses to reno for free.
Warrior loses to reno for free too.
Secret paladin is pretty good for it, I play faceless and it's great on Tirion. Other games I use it on Stalaag/Fuegen. It makes them a LOT better.
Tricky games are druids but it's not one sided like that, god draw druid is unbeatable anyways but normally you have a reasonable shot. It's all about board control with midrange minions and you have better tools than druids.
What's bad are mirror matches, I've played so many today that I started running sac pac, it's working great lol. It's 5 heal for 0 on an imp in some other game, I take it.
The egg one? That list has so many buffs, I feel it could get unplayable hands. eggs are cool though.
I've been getting the best results with renolock for rank 4-5. it's like the most consistent one to me, I'm actually going up now finally.
Secret paladin is bad, because everyone is targeting it kinda with face decks now or freeze mage, mirror games are coin flip too. I don't think it's as good where everyone is playing it, every third game is against secret paladin for me, It's the most cancerous deck ever, or it could be bots too. There is just sooo many of them.
Druid is almost same now, goddamn you just fold to mirror entity or patrons. Mirror games, you draw bad lose board gg.
Patron is bad too, you lose to every control deck there is.
Face hunter/shaman lose to reno. still not easy if you don't get reno.
Rogue is decent too but I get like every face shaman on ladder.
Priest loses to reno for free.
Warrior loses to reno for free too.
Secret paladin is pretty good for it, I play faceless and it's great on Tirion. Other games I use it on Stalaag/Fuegen. It makes them a LOT better.
Tricky games are druids but it's not one sided like that, god draw druid is unbeatable anyways but normally you have a reasonable shot. It's all about board control with midrange minions and you have better tools than druids.
What's bad are mirror matches, I've played so many today that I started running sac pac, it's working great lol. It's 5 heal for 0 on an imp in some other game, I take it.
The egg one? That list has so many buffs, I feel it could get unplayable hands. eggs are cool though.