This video will never get old especially the icing on the cake which is the Rogue beating a Handlock by getting Sacrificial Pact off of Buccaneer. Pretty sure Trump never played the deck after that loss.
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Hearthstone |OT9| Our raid wiped in Icecrown Citadel
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Mobius and pet octopus
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Favorite win of the expansion so far.
Vicious Syndicate‏ @ViciousHS
#DataReaper returns this Thursday (4/20) at 9am PDT. Be prepared. �� #Hearthstone #UnGoro
https://twitter.com/ViciousHS/status/854025137867210752
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#DataReaper returns this Thursday (4/20) at 9am PDT. Be prepared. �� #Hearthstone #UnGoro
https://twitter.com/ViciousHS/status/854025137867210752
Probably posted
LucidMomentum
Member
Kripp playing against a legacy deck last night at 11-2 was hilarious.
Just build a normal old school midrange shaman and play it in wild. It will give you a taste of the insanity.
Rank 25 wild is really something to behold.
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thepotatoman
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eh, maybe. Obviously much worse, but probably still better than most other elemental decks in other classes.
Other shaman decks would probably be better.
Might be the best deck in the meta atm. Crackling Razormaw does so much work in that deck. If you high roll and get Windfury on a Highmane or +Atk on Kindly Grandma or the like it is most of the way to GG. The deck just has so many weapons once you want to turn the corner into face damage. It's really strong.
Do you like Nesting Roc in your version? I like it, but I've seen some decks cutting it for more early game stuff.
servant of kalimos has a decent chance to discover Kalimos. sometimes I might have even 3. It's lights out for the opponent at that point
my point is try the deck w/o him. Sub him out for a Bloodlust or something
myself I crafted Kalimos and Quest rogue as soon as Ungoro dropped
The Mango Sentinel
Member
I was losing a lot to Quest Rogue while I was playing Quest Warrior and then I suddenly got my shit together and started winning. I mean sure they win if they get the quest done on turn 3 or 4, but they beat almost every deck under those circumstances. I've won most of my matches the past couple of days if the match goes to turn 5 and beyond. I think I've won all of them that go past 6. Glad I crafted Sleep with the Fishes because it has bailed me out on quite a few occasions.
These goddamn Hunters though....
The Mango Sentinel
Member
So you crafted shield slam but drop the armor smith?
Are you playing Quest Warrior? I also haven't found a use for Grommash myself. If he got me the win, I was gonna win anyway. I guess he could be useful against other Quest Warriors?
so weird he gave it a 1 star it just seemed such a no brainer to craft. granted, I craft everything for rogue (only missing that WoTG legendary)
Yeah playing quest. I haven't tried the grom version. Might update it later.
My initial deck was no shield slam, 1 drake and 1 brawl.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
It wasn't just trump that underrated it. Lots of people here automatically assumed it was shit tier too.
Oh wow that's an interesting addition that would make it tough to get through to your squishes.
There are so many cards that are just on the edge of getting cut. Another Highmane, Hyrdra, another Warden, Rat Pack, Infested Wolf, Roc.
cartographer
Member
I just played a quest rogue that decided to cycle his Brewmaster over and over instead of his 1 drops that he traded with. I felt bad.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Yeah, for all the cool things in this expansion it's quickly devolved into aggro and then faster aggro to counter the normal aggro. Throw in the occasional miracle Rogue and taunt Warrior and there's your meta.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I feel thats what causes quest rogue to lose more than counter decks. Just bad hands and draws is more detrimental than a counter deck.
Played right you can get the quest done in the first few turns. But you have as much a chance of that as getting it done later down the road.
Basically its a pure luck deck. If you get lucky you will win, if you dont then it may become an uphill fight.
alright reviewing HCT Spring qualifier for China- https://www.twitch.tv/videos/136179644
Rogue seems like the new pirate warrior it's always banned. I am guessing it's quest rogue decks.
Lots of Elemental Shaman decks as always which still makes me suspect Tempo Storm's tier 3 opinion. I await Vicious Syndicate results on the 20th
Rogue seems like the new pirate warrior it's always banned. I am guessing it's quest rogue decks.
Lots of Elemental Shaman decks as always which still makes me suspect Tempo Storm's tier 3 opinion. I await Vicious Syndicate results on the 20th
Do you have a link the deck you are using? I am trying to hone in my midrange deck based on the cards I own.
As requested here is the deck I hit legend with
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/812396-murloc-paladin
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/812396-murloc-paladin
I feel current aggro deck is much weaker and operate as they should tho, there is no finley bullshit anymore, early minion currently much weaker and less stickier, so they can't play mind bafflingly long game and still win anymore..
Aggro still strong sure, but I really like they can only play one way as its should
Aggro still strong sure, but I really like they can only play one way as its should
Thanks for the suggestions, i've been meaning to make an elemental shaman since ungoro release.
ArcticDonkey
Member
What up StoneGAF!
So I decided to jump back in after bailing out a few weeks into the WOTOG expansion. Was pretty devastated to see all my go-to decks banished to wild. However I made a Midrange Hunter deck because it's so goddam cheap and have been having pretty good success. Played a ton over the weekend and made it from 25 to 13. Hitting a wall now due to my own bad play.
Anyway I was hoping to ask for some deck suggestions. Hunter's obviously pretty in vogue right now but I'm honestly tired of it already, need a change up. Problem is I'm so far behind on packs and don't have Karazhan.
It's tough to decide which to commit to. My previous go tos that I had the most fun with were Dragon Priest, Reno Druid and Miracle/Deathrattle rogue. I was thinking of the new iteration of Dragon Priest or maybe QW, as I've never played warrior or gone all in with a "top tier" deck. I thought the warrior list posted earlier today looked good but holy hell at the dust cost! All those epics.
So if anyone has any input for someone who can't make up their own mind it'd be really appreciated. Basically looking for something a bit more engaging than MH but not as difficult to use as Miracle Rogue, which I sucked at before anyway. I have 4.5k dust left over from my previous time and the hall of famers. I could also dust a load of my wild dudes if it comes down to it.
Lastly... is Karazhan super necessary for current decent decks ? I feel like I know the answer already but can't justify it wallet wise. Somebody talk me out of it cause I may cave over the next few days.
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Huh that was overly long for no real reason.
TLDR: Deck Suggestions plz, Karazhan or no?
So I decided to jump back in after bailing out a few weeks into the WOTOG expansion. Was pretty devastated to see all my go-to decks banished to wild. However I made a Midrange Hunter deck because it's so goddam cheap and have been having pretty good success. Played a ton over the weekend and made it from 25 to 13. Hitting a wall now due to my own bad play.
Anyway I was hoping to ask for some deck suggestions. Hunter's obviously pretty in vogue right now but I'm honestly tired of it already, need a change up. Problem is I'm so far behind on packs and don't have Karazhan.
It's tough to decide which to commit to. My previous go tos that I had the most fun with were Dragon Priest, Reno Druid and Miracle/Deathrattle rogue. I was thinking of the new iteration of Dragon Priest or maybe QW, as I've never played warrior or gone all in with a "top tier" deck. I thought the warrior list posted earlier today looked good but holy hell at the dust cost! All those epics.
So if anyone has any input for someone who can't make up their own mind it'd be really appreciated. Basically looking for something a bit more engaging than MH but not as difficult to use as Miracle Rogue, which I sucked at before anyway. I have 4.5k dust left over from my previous time and the hall of famers. I could also dust a load of my wild dudes if it comes down to it.
Lastly... is Karazhan super necessary for current decent decks ? I feel like I know the answer already but can't justify it wallet wise. Somebody talk me out of it cause I may cave over the next few days.
EDIT:
Huh that was overly long for no real reason.
TLDR: Deck Suggestions plz, Karazhan or no?
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
There is a fair amount of solid cards in kara, but it purely depends on what deck you want to run. I think curator is gonna be a pain to build certain decks without, like taunt warrior or many paladin lists. Arcane giants is used in a few strong lists.
I think kara is worth it. Even kindly grandmother is strong in hunter.
Also the first "wing" the prologue is free.
Oh hey, fertygo's Dirty Rat play made it to Trolden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kws1St6XX5g&t=5m49s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kws1St6XX5g&t=5m49s
Mobius and pet octopus
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soulslayer
Member
Hi HS GAF. Just want to ask for some crafting advice. Is crafting the Caverns Below Quest worth it? My fear is that once Pirate Warrior becomes king again, Caverns Rogue might become unplayable. It's either I craft the quest or Sherazin. I really enjoy playing miracle rogue, however, I'm just curious if Caverns Rogue is as broken as some people make it out to be.
Reynad said something that made me realize how absurd Primordial Glyph actually is.
Primordial Glyph is essentially 0 mana Discover a Spell. That would of course be broken in the game if that was actually a thing.. but in Glyph's case you pay the upfront cost but then you get it back and then the resulting spell becomes super efficient and can tempo out later on (ie. 5 mana Flamestrike). That in some cases is superior to a 0 mana Discover spell that does not discount your spell.
We were already seeing 1 mana Discover cards be played in decks. This is just straight up power creep when you think about it because it's putting the cost of Discover below what it should be. Hell there is a 2 mana Discover spell card that is still seeing play.
Primordial Glyph is essentially 0 mana Discover a Spell. That would of course be broken in the game if that was actually a thing.. but in Glyph's case you pay the upfront cost but then you get it back and then the resulting spell becomes super efficient and can tempo out later on (ie. 5 mana Flamestrike). That in some cases is superior to a 0 mana Discover spell that does not discount your spell.
We were already seeing 1 mana Discover cards be played in decks. This is just straight up power creep when you think about it because it's putting the cost of Discover below what it should be. Hell there is a 2 mana Discover spell card that is still seeing play.
I really don't think it's that strong. It can get lucky wins, but it may easily get worse as people play the decks that do well against it.
Karsticles
Member
It's like an Unstable Portal where you choose the result.
And the pool of cards is much lower and of higher quality.
It is actually better than Unstable Portal in most cases.
ArcticDonkey
Member
Hey Thanks guys. Hmmm yeah it's looking pretty likely that I may just bite the bullet. And to think I came back to Hearthstone because I wanted to play something "new" without spending any money lol. Played for a couple days and it got it's hooks back in me.
Another benefit I guess is that with Kara I'll be able to make Zoolock straight away spending next to zero dust. Never played warlock either so it would be fun to try something new.
Still torn between committing to one of the quest decks or crafting a bunch of Priest cards. Primordial Drakes are expensive...
Karsticles
Member
I think that's true simply because Unstable Portal has 3 results: hit, miss, and GG. The GG plays, like a Dr. Boom on turn 3, are extremely rare. Most of its results are just "playable". A good portion of the time, though, you get something like a Tinyfin, and it's 2 mana that did nothing. Primordial Glyph almost never misses, though it also rarely pulls the GG.
soulslayer
Member
Thank you for the responses! I guess I'll craft Sherazin in the meantime since Miracle Rogue seems like the way to go in the long run.
Any other legendaries you guys crafted that you did not regret?
Professor Lich
Member
Well, it's more jank than good, but I used to have a Hunter deck that was focused around Medivh into Call of the Wild. Probably won't work anywhere near ladder though and I don't know if there are cards that have rotated out that made it work. All I know for sure is I had fun playing it.