GHG
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They are publishing this game on Xbox, it's their own IP that they had full control of.
By definition, they have now joined the ranks of being a 3rd party publisher.
Helldivers 2 announced for Xbox Series X|S (Releases August 26, 2025)
They are publishing this game on Xbox, it's their own IP that they had full control of.
By definition, they have now joined the ranks of being a 3rd party publisher.
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foamdino
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I suspect that this won't sell many copies on XBox, but no doubt it is a "push GaaS games to as many platforms as we can" business decision.
I really doubt this will be the start of a bunch of exclusives getting ported, more trying to prop-up the live service segment given how dismal the other attempts have been.
Really wish Sony studios had stuck to doing single player stuff, but it is what it is.
I really doubt this will be the start of a bunch of exclusives getting ported, more trying to prop-up the live service segment given how dismal the other attempts have been.
Really wish Sony studios had stuck to doing single player stuff, but it is what it is.
Ass of Can Whooping
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I have to stop this
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#SonyToo
Topher
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That's what a lot of Xbox fans said as well.
RetroGamingUK
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They're pivoting back that way now
But yes, they'll have a live service target to meet
HeisenbergFX4
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It just feels way different to me putting games on Steam versus putting it directly on other consoles (especially Xbox)
Maybe I am splitting hairs here
Tiago Rodrigues
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I mean...PS has sold close to 80M consoles. MS has a console that has stalled at 30M and their next console will be a PC so no need to release games directly to that paltform since it will play PC games anyway lol. In what way are both situations even comparable?
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6 moth exclusive, then dropping on steam. Retarded.
DenchDeckard
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Fucking wild that Sony is third party now.
Killjoy-NL
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Bolded is true though.
Xbox is effectively dead as one of the big three platform-holders.
While surprising, seeing this announcement shows the console-wars are over.
Sony can do this and it won't lead to Xbox posing a threat in any way.
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lastmessiah
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Sony doesn't have a "platform" lol.
StreetsofBeige
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Sony wants to make some extra money.
If Xbox game sales are so bad, why are most third party games still released on Xbox? The key omissions are any heavy JRPG/anime kinds of games, or any timed exclusive games. But most games still come to Xbox. And most dont sell as well as H2. So Nixxes does a cost efficient port and rake in the $$$.
Topher
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Huh? PlayStation console is a platform
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God of war 3 is awesome. Been replaying it on PS5, because it was like 10 bucks and RPCS3 is still a little spotty. I love it.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Remember how Sony was going to block PlayStation PC games from playing on the XBOX stickered ROG Ally?
foamdino
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No you're right it feels different because it's a watershed moment.
To be honest though it could be because Sony saw how feeble XBox has been and now no longer treats them as competition in any meaningful sense. Also it would really not surprise me if MS and Sony were completely aware of each other's hw plans and Sony is like "Next gen MS has a PC with series X back compat == they're the same as PC"
(Cerny is probably engineering the PS6 APU and AMD are taking that and stuffing in the xbox back compat - I mean they're so similar why split hairs)
Sebastian1295
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They have marathon going to xbox and sony owns bungie. And marathon as soon as it was revealed, announced that it was going to xbox. It makes 0 sense to make GAAS games exclusive when they rely on big install bases to keep them going.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Good luck getting Sony to refund Helldivers 2.
mayham2199
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Welp there it is.
I knew something was off the moment questions about an Xbox version started floating around. Actually, that was after Phil Spencer went crying in an interview about the game not being on his dying console, because they can't take the consequences of real competition. And of course, modern SIE are for some mysterious reason so beholden to enable a self-defeatist Xbox, that they capitulate and bring one of their biggest games over anyway because....is it blackmail? Or because "line must go up" with shareholders and investors? Which one is it this time?
I'd say keep an eye on Astro Bot getting a Steam announcement soon; why else would interviewers have fielded the question to a member of the dev team shortly after the PS5 release? Probably because it's already been planned out. People want to go on about how it'd be impossible to port the game to anything other than PlayStation, but I don't think the suits at SIE care about that complicating things. They'll find a way, I'm just waiting to see if the port's announced at Gamescon or TGS, and if there's a Switch 2 version announced too. I mean they still insist PC and Switch aren't competition to them.
But that's weird, because so many people keep telling me Xbox is seen as a direct competitor to SIE. So, why would SIE port their biggest GAAS hit to their direct competitor? Oh it's because that whole talk about viewing Xbox as a competitor is bullcrap, just marketing jargon and a narrative some fans have come up with online to argue against this exact thing happening.
And again, here's my biggest peeve with SIE on this and something I'll at least give Microsoft credit for: they treat the whole idea of multiplatform as some "will they, won't they" teen romance show, when I say just be upfront and let me as a customer know where I can expect that game from Day 1. That way, I as a customer can make the best informed decision for my wallet. Don't trick me into thinking the game's going to be exclusive and then 6-12 months later say "Got'cha bitch!". Don't try seducing me with FOMO by pretending the game's going to be exclusive for the long haul, when you're bringing it to PC a year later.
Supporting games is one thing but I think being well-informed as a customer is just as important. Ironically, SIE are being the worst at this. Microsoft's clear cut: I know everything is very likely going to be Day 1 on an Xbox, PlayStation, or PC, so as a customer it's easy to decide where I'm going to get that game. They even announced the PS5 port of Indiana Jones before the Xbox one was even released, I'm sure that saved a lot of Xbox + PS owners from feeling a need to buy it on Xbox due to uncertainty over the PS5 version existing or when it'd release. SIE feel like they want to have their cake and eat it too; they want to pretend to be like Nintendo when it comes to exclusivity, but also want to chase other market as eagerly (or increasingly eagerly) as Microsoft.
What they're going to have to realize, is you can't have it both ways. Pick a lane. Pick one or the other. And just owe up to it. I already know DS2 is going to Steam in six months, because that's what the first game did. And I think others know this too, which might explain why DS2's sales (at least physical) are underperforming compared to the first: a lot of people are just waiting for the PC version. SIE are training customers to expect this more and more, so what we're seeing happen with DS2, could end up happening with Ghosts of Yotei, and with Intergalatic. That they're putting other games like Marvel Tokon Day 1 on PC also contributes to that.
Now, going forward people will have even more reason to think Marvel Tokon gets an Xbox port. Or that it deserves an Xbox version. I'm sure Phil Spencer will go crying on another podcast about how Marvel Tokon not being on Xbox is unfair and "doesn't help anyone"; then we'll go through the whole song & dance again and end up with SIE announcing the Xbox version through Bandai Namco publishing it there six months after the PS5 & PC versions launch. Why should I, as someone who can see clear patterns, expect anything else? Why should anyone expect anything else?
Yeah I'll admit this is a ramble, but I'm also just tired of the bait-and-switch. Don't spend all this time arguing against the idea of HD2 not going to Xbox, just to then sneak out an announcement the day after Microsoft basically starts chopping Xbox into pieces. Because now why should I not expect other GAAS to get ported? Why should I not expect Astro Bot to get ported to PC and Switch 2? Some people at SIE spent too much time saying words that turn out to not mean anything, and it's been getting increasingly frustrating.
I just hope none of that gets in the way of Mark Cerny working some magic with the PS6, but we'll see. After all, he can only do what his bosses allow him to do :/
Think I'm gonna dip out from talking about this any further for a bit. Just hope more people see the patterns here, and the larger ramifications. Take that all into account and see where I'm coming from on this
I think the reality is that Sony just doesn't care anymore because lets be very real here. They've won the console war and that fight is over. No one is really leaving PC gaming for console unless at some point in their life they just get tired of PC issues and decide to just use a console since it's just plug and play which is what I did essentially. At this point they are just going to release games everywhere because it doesn't really matter. Xbox is done so PS might as well try to get as much money out of that ecosystem while they can and maybe even convince a few of them to move over to PS instead of Xbox's attempt to get them on PC.
To me this doesn't really bother me because I'm on PS no matter what. I don't like PC gaming and Xbox is just a dying ecosystem so why would I go there? I hate Nintendo's first party games and their third party support will always be weaker than PS.
I will add that I do think PS should have waited longer before doing this move but my only guess is that maybe Sony understands how bad things are behind the scenes at Xbox more than even we do. S SneakersSO said we don't even understand how bad it is behind the scenes. I would assume with the connections Sony has they do understand.
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lastmessiah
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It's an x86 PC assembled from low-end components with a thin client operating system.
Crispy Gamer
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After the Luka Doncic trade nothing surprises me anymore we're living in bizarre times
Sebastian1295
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Sony hasn't put a single player exclusive on xbox. Even the lego horizon game didn't go to xbox.
yogaflame
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PS brand of being home of true exclusives is over thanks to Ryan, Hulst and Totoki. This will surely expedite my decision to save more and get switch 2 asap.
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foamdino
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HW + custom OS == platform (to a swe)
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HeisenbergFX4
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Wasn't Bungie always staying 3rd party though or am I misremembering?
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DenchDeckard
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Of course playstation will keep a huge playerbase like yourself but there will be millions that move to pc if this continues. We have seen it all before.
The next playstation might do 50 to 70 million units...then the one after?
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S0ULZB0URNE
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So this is a Arrow head decision right?
mayham2199
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They were it was part of the contract apparently.
GHG
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This doesn't make any sense considering the fact that if people are going to be leaving the Xbox ecosystem for other platforms then now is the time.
So why give them reason to stay there even longer when it would have been far easier to create a new PS5 + helldivers 2 bundle?
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lastmessiah
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Single player games don't make nearly as much profit as games like this. Is anyone talking about God of War Ragnarok anymore? Or ever?
Sebastian1295
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I mean bungie says alot of things but once you're bought out you do what the person who owns you tells you to do. And if bungie had that much power then sony wouldn't have been able to go in their and gut them and clean house on some people while installing hermen to oversee them. And they moved people from bungie to SIE didn't they 'can't remember honestly'.
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DenchDeckard
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I love my switch 2. Amazing console.
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DntMesArnd
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Don't stress too much Sony fans. Releasing it on Xbox won't degrade your enjoyment of the game.
If you have an open mind, more players may even make it better….
If you have an open mind, more players may even make it better….
HeisenbergFX4
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Not if it was agreed upon prior
Sebastian1295
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Sony said over a year ago that all single player games 'god of war, last of us etc' will stay console exclusive to playstation 'no xbox'. They haven't put 1 single player game on xbox and until they do the freakout isn't warranted frankly.
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No doubt the biggest sony dickrider on the forum. Serious crapgamer vibes from this guy.
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