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"Hello Again" Apple holding mac-centric media event October 27th 10am PST

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grmlin

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Civ 6 runs really bad on my late 2014 with a GT 750M. Like 15FPS bad at 1440*900.

And yes, you can install it on a Mac.
 
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dark_chris

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Faddy said:
I use Google Photos and it does a decent job of making my photos look good and organises them somewhat intelligently. Auto backup from my phone is the best feature for me.

That is web based so it might not be for you.

I have used the native Windows Photos app which is surprisingly decent for doing quick edits and touch ups to images but since I don't keep my albums on my PC I don't have much to say about how it displays images. The simple timeline is good enough for my uses.
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Web based as in I have to upload it online? Oh man, I have over 250 GB of photos and videos.
 
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Guess Who

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It's nice that the 15" models all have dGPUs, but I do wonder what the performance is like, especially in Boot Camp. Hope we see benchmarks soon.
 
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otapnam

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giga said:
By references, do you mean the originals? The catalog file is cross platform.


You can and it would be the simplest way but I prefer having secondary catalogs locally for speed and mobility. Only when I'm done with it do I merge the secondary catalog back into the main one.
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Man ive been wanting to get on that LR workflow. Do you have any resources off hand to recommend for setting up / using NAS/catalogs properly?
 
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Chumley

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Frustrated_me said:
I'm baffled here.

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LumpOfCole

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From a former AppleCare Senior Advisor's perspective:

  • "It looks like you'll need to perform an iTunes Restore of your iPhone. Do you happen to have a Mac or a PC? Oh, you have a new MacBook Pro, that's great. You don't happen to have the iPhone Dongle, do you? No? Uhhh do you have another computer maybe?"
  • "For your external harddrive, do you have your dongle plugged into your classic Thunderbolt to FireWire adapter?"
  • "Sorry, no, you cannot plug your Lightning Earpods into your new MacBook Pro without a dongle."
  • "No, sorry, after 14 days you cannot replace your MacBook Pro with another MacBook Pro with additional port types."

I mean, my own dad has been looking to get a new MacBook or MacBook Pro or MacBook Air and I've been telling him for 8 weeks now to wait for Apple to announce their new lineup, but the raised cost and dongle-restricted features just led me to recommend him a not-even-updated MacBook Air instead if he really wants to get an Apple notebook at all. If he gets one of these new Pros, I know I'd be getting texts at least 2-3 times a week asking how he can do something on the new Mac which he used to be able to do on the old Mac.

I cannot really wrap my head around this pricing either. I can't really recommend any of the models to anyone at the pricepoints when competitors have stepped up their game so much. The iPhone 7 still at least has unparalleled speed and performance going for it to justify its premium cost, but I haven't seen that kind of advantage on any Macs since maybe the Mac Pro 2013 (in specific circumstances, anyway), and that seems to have been left behind without a significant spec update in sight.
 
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Zaph

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Guess Who said:
It's nice that the 15" models all have dGPUs, but I do wonder what the performance is like, especially in Boot Camp. Hope we see benchmarks soon.
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I'm thinking about the 15" dGPU, but really want the maxed out 13" (i7).

Not sure I need it. Only occasionally edit video on my Macbook, and the rest of Creative Suite should be fine with an i7 alone? Never game on it either.
 
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grmlin

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Lord Error said:
How good is Radeon Pro 460?
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If it's as fast as the desktop 460 it should be fine for a lot of things. At least if you don't plan to play in anything close to the native screen resolution, of course :)


Sadly Mac ports perform worse than the windows versions most of the time. :(
 
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jimbobsmells

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VanquishUK said:
Is there a macOS version? Should play it fine if there is. The little Windows ultrabooks with dual core kaby lakes and integrated graphics are able to play it so it shouldn't be a problem.
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Wiz said:
I don't think Civ 6 is out on macOS

Source: I tried to buy it on Steam the other day :(
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grmlin said:
It will be less shit, thats for sure. But I'm pretty confident it's still not a gaming laptop.
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Thanks. Not expecting a gaming laptop. Civ 6 would be enough for me tbh.
 
Mick Swagger

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Judging by comment sections across the Internet, I'm in the vast minority when it comes to living wirelessly.

My entire setup is Bluetooth / Wireless based so the decision to ditch the headphone jack on the iPhone doesn't bother me and I've got a NAS setup at home which also doesn't require any cables into my laptop. Allows me to access, transfer & store media without the need for any adapters or dongles.

I do have a USB-A / USB-C flash drive in the off chance I need to transfer something somewhere else but haven't used it in months.

Pretty much use cables to charge my laptop & phone, exclusively. Living the dream. My only real gripe is, again, the price but what can you do when the closest competitor doesn't care about HiDPI. At all.
 
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The Albatross

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Worst apple reveal ever.
Terrible press conference. 30 minutes on pointless TV crap was crap. ANd then the MacBook Pro disappointed pretty immensely.

I've been in need of a new MBP for years, but I think I'm just going to save some money and buy last year's model.
 
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grmlin said:
If it's as fast as the desktop 460 it should be fine for a lot of things. At least if you don't plan to play in anything close to the native screen resolution, of course :)
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There is no way that it will be as fast as a desktop 460.

And for reference to everyone else. The desktop 460 is a $125 4gig GPU.

This is pretty bad for such an expensive machine..
 
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icespide

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Mick Swagger said:
Judging by comment sections across the Internet, I'm in the vast minority when it comes to living wirelessly.

My entire setup is Bluetooth / Wireless based so the decision to ditch the headphone jack on the iPhone doesn't bother me and I've got a NAS setup at home which also doesn't require any cables into my laptop. Allowed me to access, transfer & store media without the need for any adapters or dongles.

I do have a USB-A / USB-C flash drive in the off chance I need to transfer something somewhere else but haven't used it in months.

Pretty much use cables to charge my laptop & phone, exclusively. Living the dream. My only real gripe is, again, the price but what can you do when the closest competitor doesn't care about HiDPI. At all.
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real talk I haven't personally plugged anything into my laptop other than to charge it in at least 2 years, but I am not everyone
 
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wachie

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DedValve said:
Hm I'd figure but I really don't feel like dealing with ebay and the shit that comes with it. Are there any good sites for hassle free selling?

EDIT: Just checking out ebay and the only prices I could find for the lowest end late 2013 model was around $450 with 14 hours left to bid so I'll check on how that one goes up. If its within $100 I'll probably just ship it to microsoft, hopefully I can use this credit towards refurb models.
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https://www.gazelle.com/sell/apple-computers

Never use eBay, sellers get shafted.
 
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Benjamin1981

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Those prices will probably not result is lower prices for the old style retina MBP...was hoping to get one of those for cheap to replace my 2013 iMac. So disappointed.
 
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ElNino

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grmlin said:
Ok, I'll have to try one some time.

But honestly, being the best of something thats absolut garbage otherwise isn't hard. All the trackpads I tried always felt like they are fighting against ancient monsters deep deep inside Windows, who wanted to make it feel like a mouse in Windows 3.1.
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I bought my Surface Book and my son's rMBP at the same time last year, and I find the trackpads on each to be very similar. Movement and scrolling is basically the same to me, the MBP has slightly better feel to the "clickiness", but the SB has tap/touch support so I rarely need to click anyways.

Not sure if there is an option on the MBP to support tap or multiple finger gesture/click support, but I often find myself needing to adjust to the MBP after not using it for awhile. My son likes it, but he also uses a Logitech mouse often as well.
 
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Skel1ingt0n

I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Call me insane, but I think I just might:

Sell my 2013 15" rMBP
Sell my gaming desktop

Then...

Buy 12" rMBP for work/travel/around the house
Buy 17" Razer Blade for desktop gaming, but also portable photo editing rig and gaming/LANs


Honestly, won't come out to THAT much more, and I'll have a lot more capability in my options.
 
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grmlin

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kennah said:
There is no way that it will be as fast as a desktop 460.

And for reference to everyone else. The desktop 460 is a $125 4gig GPU.

This is pretty bad for such an expensive machine..
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Well yeah, pretty unlikely.

But I don't think it's bad for such an expensive machine, it's simply not meant to be a gaming powerhouse.
 
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ElNino said:
I bought my Surface Book and my son's rMBP at the same time last year, and I find the trackpads on each to be very similar. Movement and scrolling is basically the same to me, the MBP has slightly better feel to the "clickiness", but the SB has tap/touch support so I rarely need to click anyways.

Not sure if there is an option on the MBP to support tap or multiple finger gesture/click support, but I often find myself needing to adjust to the MBP after not using it for awhile. My son likes it, but he also uses a Logitech mouse often as well.
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you can tap to click, you just need to enable the option in system preferneces/trackpad
 
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maharg

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mcw said:
Is anyone running Ubuntu on a laptop where the hardware isn't total garbage? I've often thought about going that direction but have never been happy with the available hardware.
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I use a Lenovo Yoga 900, which just got discontinued for the next in line. Not sure how that one works.

The trick to a linux laptop is you want all intel hardware (including the wifi, video, and audio). If you have that ubuntu probably works pretty much out of the box.

Don't get a hidpi screen though. Linux hidpi support is absolutely awful.
 
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Mick Swagger said:
Judging by comment sections across the Internet, I'm in the vast minority when it comes to living wirelessly.

My entire setup is Bluetooth / Wireless based so the decision to ditch the headphone jack on the iPhone doesn't bother me and I've got a NAS setup at home which also doesn't require any cables into my laptop. Allows me to access, transfer & store media without the need for any adapters or dongles.

I do have a USB-A / USB-C flash drive in the off chance I need to transfer something somewhere else but haven't used it in months.

Pretty much use cables to charge my laptop & phone, exclusively. Living the dream. My only real gripe is, again, the price but what can you do when the closest competitor doesn't care about HiDPI. At all.
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1gbps Ethernet > 802.11AC
 
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grmlin

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ElNino said:
I bought my Surface Book and my son's rMBP at the same time last year, and I find the trackpads on each to be very similar. Movement and scrolling is basically the same to me, the MBP has slightly better feel to the "clickiness", but the SB has tap/touch support so I rarely need to click anyways.

Not sure if there is an option on the MBP to support tap or multiple finger gesture/click support, but I often find myself needing to adjust to the MBP after not using it for awhile. My son likes it, but he also uses a Logitech mouse often as well.
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Ah, thanks. So there is hope we don't have to deal with crap touchpads on windows in the future anymore.



Regarding Civ 6.

It runs well on my desktop maxed out on a RX 470 at 1080p. But thats Windows.


I have no idea how the GT 750 compares to that new 460 Pro, but it should have enough power to at least play the game.
I don't want to play Civ 6 on my MacBook Pro from 2014, performance is way too bad on it.
 
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WordAssassin

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So I'm looking and looking and I can't seem to find the new updated Mac Minis! Where could they be??

Oh, what's that? They did a "Mac-centric" product launch, used the tagline used for the original Mac and iMac, and didn't actually show off any new desktop computers?

Jesus Christ. Normally I'm all about the Apple kool-aid but fuckin' hell man. And as pointed out the port/dongle situation is completely ridiculous.
 
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Futureman

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Surface trade-in thing doesn't see worth it (these things never are).

if I'm looking at the correct model, my late 2013 15" MBP 512 GB SSD/16 GB RAM gets only $450. Pretty sure I could get around $800 or so on eBay.
 
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Bionic

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ElNino said:
I bought my Surface Book and my son's rMBP at the same time last year, and I find the trackpads on each to be very similar. Movement and scrolling is basically the same to me, the MBP has slightly better feel to the "clickiness", but the SB has tap/touch support so I rarely need to click anyways.

Not sure if there is an option on the MBP to support tap or multiple finger gesture/click support, but I often find myself needing to adjust to the MBP after not using it for awhile. My son likes it, but he also uses a Logitech mouse often as well.
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I've been using a surface book since my macBook air died last month, and I hate the trackpad. Tap to click feels way more inaccurate than the mba, scrolling is inconsistent, and it just feels worse to the touch. I use an external mouse on it whenever I can. I would absolutely try a surface book touchpad before you assume it will be indistinguishable from a macbook touchpad for you.
 
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curls

Wake up Sheeple, your boring insistence that Obama is not a lizardman from Atlantis is wearing on my patience 💤
Gaaraz said:
I'm absolutely amazed by these prices. It was going to be a day one purchase for me x_x
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Same here. They can get out of here with that bs.
 
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ElNino

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Diprosalic said:
i don't like the surface line
macbooks are way too pricey
chromebooks are not available here


guess i just curl up and die.
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What about the Dell XPS line? They seem to be a solid choice these days, I almost went with the XPS 15" instead of the Surface Book.
 
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