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"Hello Again" Apple holding mac-centric media event October 27th 10am PST

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LeleSocho said:
If you watch video encoded on HEVC (usually they are the 4k ones) you fans of your computer will spin like crazy and the battery drains way faster.
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Hmm, don't think I would be watching too much 4K video on the computer monitor as opposed to 1080p. Is this more for people with external displays?
 
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Sir Abacus said:
It's a callback to the original Mac ad.
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If people miss the reference it could be taken as being kind of ominous, like that W10 'Everything is right where you left it' message :p Their (second) OG logo looks quite cheerful with an adaptation of the message and given flat is in atm, though they'd never do it themselves.

apple-hello-again41pnf.jpg
 
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GeoNeo said:
Gonna suck big time if there is no Quad Core KabyLake in 15" MacBook Pro.. want it for HEVC & VP9 encode and decode.

Fucking Intel is a mess.

Oh well wait and see. Might just use my current rMBP till next year I guess.
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The statement below is only half correct. Iris Pro looks to be dead.

Guess Who said:
Quad-core Kaby Lakes with Iris Pro aren't shipping till next year, so
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http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/09/20/intel-corporations-iris-pro-is-history.aspx
 
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I really hope this prompts my boss to upgrade our Macs. Its beyond frustrating now working on an iMac that shits the bed when I'm working in indesign and photoshop...even browsing the damn web. And not to mention that software that I want to use don't support version of OSX that it's running. My coworker is still using a G5 for fucks sake and the damn thing is on the brink lol.
 
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Confusion Illusion said:
I really hope this prompts my boss to upgrade our Macs. Its beyond frustrating now working on an iMac that shits the bed when I'm working in indesign and photoshop...even browsing the damn web. And not to mention that software that I want to use don't support version of OSX that it's running. My coworker is still using a G5 for fucks sake and the damn thing is on the brink lol.
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Apple is to blame. Or Intel, I guess. Sad.
 
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R.E HEVC decoding: I thought Intel released drivers for hardware acceleration last year?

Autumn Wind said:
The price difference between the former (with a discrete chip) and latter is at least $1,000. You might be better off with the plain old Razer Blade with QHD with the 1060. The Blade Pro has a 1080 but I'd imagine the 1060 will suit you fine, no?
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Probably. In all honesty I'd probably be fine with an integrated GPU...and I'd likely miss macOS and it's integration with everything else. But damn, the Blade Pro looks good. I'd love for Apple to reintroduce a 17" display though.
 
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cjp said:
Probably. In all honesty I'd probably be fine with an integrated GPU...and I'd likely miss macOS and it's integration with everything else. But damn, the Blade Pro looks good. I'd love for Apple to reintroduce a 17" display though.
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Apple's not doing a 17" MacBook Pro again. The market is too small.
 
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cjp said:
R.E HEVC decoding: I thought Intel released drivers for hardware acceleration last year?



Probably. In all honesty I'd probably be fine with an integrated GPU...and I'd likely miss macOS and it's integration with everything else. But damn, the Blade Pro looks good. I'd love for Apple to reintroduce a 17" display though.
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You're right, Skylake can do 8-bit decoding. It's 10 bit that Kaby Lake supports.
 
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Mr. Wonderful said:
If you don't want this now, you'll want it a year or two from now. Not just for 4K content.
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Darn, that stinks. Well I guess if in 2-3 years I do need it then I suppose I can always sell this new Skylake one and then get whatever is out then.

Otherwise I wait for another 6 months for Kaby Lake when my 2010's dGPU crashes my computer almost every day.
 
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Autumn Wind said:
The statement below is only half correct. Iris Pro looks to be dead.



http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/09/20/intel-corporations-iris-pro-is-history.aspx
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It's hard to discern what not being on a roadmap means in practicality, however. Iris "Pro" may no longer exist, but we also may barely miss it due to continual generation over generation GPU improvements. Alternatively, Intel could be simplifying its GPU lineup. Least likely, but even still a possibility, Intel might only offer Iris Pro GPUs every so many generations. Only after a given process has matured enough to support large, complex GPUs.

Personally, this is a bit disappointing for me. Intel was really closing the gap on Nvidia and AMD. Mobile dedicated GPUs just seem like another point of failure to me.
 
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Mr. Wonderful said:
It's hard to discern what not being on a roadmap means in practicality, however. Iris "Pro" may no longer exist, but we also may barely miss it due to continual generation over generation GPU improvements. Alternatively, Intel could be simplifying its GPU lineup. Least likely, but even still a possibility, Intel might only offer Iris Pro GPUs every so many generations. Only after a given process has matured enough to support large, complex GPUs.

Personally, this is a bit disappointing for me. Intel was really closing the gap on Nvidia and AMD. Mobile dedicated GPUs just seem like another point of failure to me.
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Could that be why some gamer notebooks just jumped to using full desktop cards?
 
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Zombie James said:
Latest batch of rumours: http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/22/kuo-october-2016-mac-predictions/

- Skylake MBP with oxide panel and 2TB SSD option.
- OLED touch bar uses it's own processor similar to what's in the Apple Watch.
- There'll be a MagSafe-like adaptor.
- New 13" Macbook, most-likely a new Air.

edit: Oh, already posted on the last page.
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The 2TB SSD is such a non-starter.

I can guarantee it'll be at LEAST a $1,000 BTO option on an already very pricey computer. My 2013 15" at $2600 came - base - with a 512GB drive. I'm feeling pretty disappointingly confident that three years later, it'll still start at 512GB.

I mean, sure, I'd love that much space, but I'd much prefer a larger base storage option.
 
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Skel1ingt0n said:
The 2TB SSD is such a non-starter.

I can guarantee it'll be at LEAST a $1,000 BTO option on an already very pricey computer. My 2013 15" at $2600 came - base - with a 512GB drive. I'm feeling pretty disappointingly confident that three years later, it'll still start at 512GB.

I mean, sure, I'd love that much space, but I'd much prefer a larger base storage option.
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I'm almost 100% confident the 13" Pro base storage will be 256GB this year. They already did it with the 12" MBP. Consequently upgrade pricing will also go down.
 
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If it has Kaby Lake I will purchase it in an instant, otherwise I will wait until Q1 or Q2 for the refresh.
 
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jstripes said:
Things don't work that way.
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I thought Apple typically does small hardware refreshes in the middle of releases? This is my first time switching to Mac so maybe I was misinformed.

I realize the performance increase with Kaby Lake is minor but if Apple has neglected the MacBook Pro for this long why not wait just a little longer until it's readily available? There's still some small chance we could be surprised with it, right?
 
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SteveO409 said:
More rumors of no 3.5mm jack on the macbook pro :(

http://micgadget.com/37587/macbook-pro-2017-price-in-usa-incl-macbook-air-2016/

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I just can't believe they'll do this on the MBP's.

Apple has always been so eager to show off all the DJ's and music makers using Macbooks - seems insane to throw them under the bus like this. And the million other reasons this is a terrible idea.

I suppose if they do it, it'll be blatant proclamation the removal is a idealogical/financial decision and nothing to do with freeing up valuable internal space - there's loads of room in a MBP compared to an iPhone.
 
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If they remove the headphone jack from the Pros they have officially lost their minds. Even the 12" Macbook has one for crying out loud
 
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Spy said:
I thought Apple typically does small hardware refreshes in the middle of releases? This is my first time switching to Mac so maybe I was misinformed.

I realize the performance increase with Kaby Lake is minor but if Apple has neglected the MacBook Pro for this long why not wait just a little longer until it's readily available? There's still some small chance we could be surprised with it, right?
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The average MacBook Pro release interval is 268 days.

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac
 
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Make the cigarette butt receptacle into a sleeker, more modern cigarette butt receptacle ...without a headphone jack.
 
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not sold on the 1/8" jack rumor. iphone headphones were one thing. But MBP was always dual-purpose (analog in and out). And as others have said, MBPs are at the forefront for DJing and audio production.. removing the analog-in port (which BT doesn't address) and now basically requiring a dongle for ADC.. we'll see.
 
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stilgar said:
Sure.
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taking out the ability to use headphones? maybe, maybe not. buy BT headphones already.

take out the analog audio input? highly doubtful. obviously I'm not 100%, so I'm not going to say I told you so. We'll see Thursday.
 
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They're not taking the headphone jack out of the definitive Logic Pro and Garageband machine y'all. Come on. Micgadget is a no name site.
 
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The Real Abed said:
We've already seen leaked cases for the new machines. They still have headphone jacks. Keep calm everyone.

Only 3 more days.
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Exactly. The "no headphone jack" rumor was from a survey Apple sent out early September asking if people use it. That's it. Now some random no-name website mentions it and people are freaking out over nothing...
 
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Guess Who said:
They're not taking the headphone jack out of the definitive Logic Pro and Garageband machine y'all. Come on. Micgadget is a no name site.
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Just playing devil's advocate here, but most people doing pro audio are using Thunberbolt-based audio interfaces, not the headphone jack. When I plug in headphones, I plug it into my external rack unit, not the Mac. And I imagine most podcast people are using USB-based microphones.

I think it'd be in some ways a bolder move than removing the jack on the iPhone 7, so I don't know, but it's a plausible move.
 
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