SEL league streaming on Dreadnaught's stream again.
Also on Arthelon's stream and Blinks (Complexity).
Also on Arthelon's stream and Blinks (Complexity).
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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK
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I watched some yesterday, really valuable for ppl interested in the game in general, also a little amazed on how many ppl at this lvl that dread has to micromanage and do pretty simple things
Tbf a lot of it is him is just announcing general things to make sure everyone is on the same page tho which is really valuable too
Also lane discussion!
Tbf a lot of it is him is just announcing general things to make sure everyone is on the same page tho which is really valuable too
Also lane discussion!
Yep, I think rexar is pretty good. Once you get a good handle on controlling the AI it's actually really strong to have this kind of disposable AI that you can just face check into the enemy team.
Just had a pretty good game on eternal shrines where I went flare into bird build with wildfire bear, feign death, and hardened shield. And basically sic the bear on anyone who pops out of the fog, use flare to reveal where they're backing up to, and then just kind of dance max leash range with the bear kind of zoning them out and providing more vision. It worked really well because we had anubarak and illidan who could quickly engage anyone on their team who fucked up.
It's puts them into this really awkward position of being revealed, taking some harrasment damage for free, not knowing if/when they're gonna get stunned, should they use their abilties on the bear? Oh shit they took one too many steps chasing the bear and now illidan is humping their face.
I think a good rexar comp needs at least one gap closer, preferably with a follow up stun, to initiate on whatever the bear sees and then a strong back line to keep people from just jumping past the bear onto the hunter.
we had a raynor, but I could see it working with zagara, valla, falstad, or even tychus.
Just had a pretty good game on eternal shrines where I went flare into bird build with wildfire bear, feign death, and hardened shield. And basically sic the bear on anyone who pops out of the fog, use flare to reveal where they're backing up to, and then just kind of dance max leash range with the bear kind of zoning them out and providing more vision. It worked really well because we had anubarak and illidan who could quickly engage anyone on their team who fucked up.
It's puts them into this really awkward position of being revealed, taking some harrasment damage for free, not knowing if/when they're gonna get stunned, should they use their abilties on the bear? Oh shit they took one too many steps chasing the bear and now illidan is humping their face.
I think a good rexar comp needs at least one gap closer, preferably with a follow up stun, to initiate on whatever the bear sees and then a strong back line to keep people from just jumping past the bear onto the hunter.
we had a raynor, but I could see it working with zagara, valla, falstad, or even tychus.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Sonya apparently just got banned out in the Enter the Storm tournament in the NaVi vs ATN match.
Last night I did 3 solo games. 2 were stompy-ish on my side vs teams that were either bad or just didn't understand how to deal with Hammer on BoE, and 1 was a stomp on us because we had a Kael'Thas that died about 5s into any engagement because he'd just run in there.
Respect ban after the previous match
the coms are SO good in this dread stream of SEL.
Like communicating that the heal is coming and you should stay and fight even though inside you know your dead. but then the heal comes like he said and you win and they die. so good.
and then he mutes his skype and tells the stream why it was good or why it was bad.
what jake and ESL and all them need to do is a get a pro player to do some co casting as an analyst to explain the whys in the down time.
Like communicating that the heal is coming and you should stay and fight even though inside you know your dead. but then the heal comes like he said and you win and they die. so good.
and then he mutes his skype and tells the stream why it was good or why it was bad.
what jake and ESL and all them need to do is a get a pro player to do some co casting as an analyst to explain the whys in the down time.
Ok now the avatars are getting to me.
Yeah absolutely, i think they do a good job w/ their knowledge pool and experience but an insider who had a bit of charisma (maybe someone who doesnt make it to the big tourney) would really elevate things
Obviously lcs casters are probably paid more, salary and whatnot, and play the game more, but man they really do a shitload of research (plus viewing copious international footage, though that might be more league specific since a lot of teams transfer strats from korea)
Instead we are getting Tastosis again. More hype, but even less knowledge than what we already have.
I've liked them on OGN, even if they're not the most knowledgable, and I definitely prefer them to some of the alternatives.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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There's Kaelaris + Todd , Khaldor + Thatcher (?), Teknolink, Grubby casts every once in awhile, Schamtoo and Zoia obviously aren't EU guys but they've been casting our events a lot, those are the english EU casters I know
Maybe Breez but he's a pro player for Fnatic so idk when he'd ever cast a game, Khaldor mentioned he's his favourite streamer though. Weirdly I have never seen is stream listed on Twitch.
On the other hand I like to notify some people flaming in foreign languages that english wasn't the only language I learned in school.
Orochinagis
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Ah racist comments, screw those guys if I made the mistake of talking* (writing) in spanish with a friend in a match
Familienoberhauptvogel
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McIntyre vs Dreadnaught, damn whom to root for???
jaundicejuice
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Zeratul/Abathur just destroys Rexxar. Throw in Jaina and you basically can delete the teams "tank" at the start of every fight for free.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Lol grubby is playing with players of BOB? vs a member of BOB? + a member of Navi, what are the odds
Yea he's definitely not a tank. More bruiser or specialist.
Positioning is definetly the hardest part of playing Rexar. You want your bear to be hitting stuff but you need to be out of range.
I've been shit on by zeras and I've also shit on zeras. Positioning is important but You can also deal with him by keeping misha in follow mode until he jumps you and then stunning him or of course hitting him with flare. But if he's good your kinda screwed. Feign death and hardened shield are also good vs zeratul.
Positioning is definetly the hardest part of playing Rexar. You want your bear to be hitting stuff but you need to be out of range.
I've been shit on by zeras and I've also shit on zeras. Positioning is important but You can also deal with him by keeping misha in follow mode until he jumps you and then stunning him or of course hitting him with flare. But if he's good your kinda screwed. Feign death and hardened shield are also good vs zeratul.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I just bought the Dire Wolf and the Butcher Mount...
I'm a complete fucking moron.
Edit: on a positive note, I (finally) have all the mounts in the game. Sheesh.
Edit 2: fuck it, bought some random bundle, and Rehgar and his stupid skin.
GJ Yoshi
I'm a complete fucking moron.
Edit: on a positive note, I (finally) have all the mounts in the game. Sheesh.
Edit 2: fuck it, bought some random bundle, and Rehgar and his stupid skin.
GJ Yoshi
You got the Nexus Charger from last Blizzcon too? Welcome to the elite fleet club. We sit in the back by ourselves in shame.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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What's the point when his master skin is the definite version?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Yep, got it! It's so unbelievably good with some characters!
But at that point, the character is level 10
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Is that the digital looking horse? If so...I'm jelly
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Familienoberhauptvogel
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How have people not sold that en masse?
Yeah it's cool but not "I could buy every single hero if I sold this and still have surplus cash" cool.
jaundicejuice
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That's the consolation prize for buying a virtual Blizzcon ticket.
I know that Blizzard is trying to use the role numbers for positive reinforcement and de-emphasize individual success by conflating kills and assists together but I just played against a Leoric on Booty Bay who literally just camped a lane and tried to knock everything down in it. He went 2-16 but led his team by a green country mile in siege and hero damage, damage tanked and experience contributed. In their mind that probably justified how they played, "look at all of these high numbers." but that Leoric was also why their team lost. One lane was pushed to our core but all of their lanes were pushed to their core, we dominated the objective, controlled pretty much all of the map.
The loss was the consequence for that shitty tactic but the scoreboard sort of reinforced that what they did was a good thing. When it wasn't. It really, really wasn't.
I just feel like I'm playing Kael'thas, sweating my position and worrying where Zeratul is (or isn't), only without any of the awesome damage as payoff.
That said I'm about to be as big a sucker for Murkillidan.
I know that Blizzard is trying to use the role numbers for positive reinforcement and de-emphasize individual success by conflating kills and assists together but I just played against a Leoric on Booty Bay who literally just camped a lane and tried to knock everything down in it. He went 2-16 but led his team by a green country mile in siege and hero damage, damage tanked and experience contributed. In their mind that probably justified how they played, "look at all of these high numbers." but that Leoric was also why their team lost. One lane was pushed to our core but all of their lanes were pushed to their core, we dominated the objective, controlled pretty much all of the map.
The loss was the consequence for that shitty tactic but the scoreboard sort of reinforced that what they did was a good thing. When it wasn't. It really, really wasn't.
Ketch said:
I just feel like I'm playing Kael'thas, sweating my position and worrying where Zeratul is (or isn't), only without any of the awesome damage as payoff.
Well it was part of the Blizzcon digital ticket rewards for $40 last fall. Now it's at the ridiculous 200-300$ on eBay though.
I love it, but don't use it too often because it's so big.
Yea. Totally agree. But I think the bear stun and even damage in the late game is pretty good tho.
I really really like this hero. I like that there's this learning curve to him... It just kind of sucks that the depth is only there because the control system is so wonky.
Yup, and it could be yours too! For the low, low price of $569.97 CAD.
The fuck...hell no
RumblingRosco
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I'm convinced Rexxar is awesome with Abathur. Misha makes a great target for Symbiotes... And once you get Hivemind? Nasty stuff happens.
That'll be another stomp but looking forward to it.
jaundicejuice
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I like the idea of Rexxar more than I like the current implementation. I find the A.I. driving Misha a little unwieldly and it sometimes messes with Rexxar's auto-attack range. It's just finnicky.
I feel like I've gotten a lot better at it with practice. Able to do things I wasn't before, like peel for myself while running away. And play safely from range while still doing work with the bear. But yea it's super wonky and it feels more like exploiting the bad AI then actually getting better at the micro.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Bowder confirmed medic comes next
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
So Diablo expansion is done and they're going to SC universe now? Can't wait for Medic (support), Mengsk (specialist) and Artanis (assassin).
I don't think he did. Someone asked him "Medic or Artanis first?" to which he replied "Medic."
It may be a safe assumption, and I don't remember what other heroes have been revealed, but not explicit.
That being said,
Medic HYPE,
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