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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK
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jaundicejuice
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Some of these games I've watched have been lost at the draft. Stupid pubstomp comps that work in 5 player queue QM but crumple when a bit of scrutiny is applied in a draft.
It feels like a big problem this game has is once there's no mirror matches, the list of viable heroes is pretty short. I think they're forcing the competitive scene too soon and probably "released" the game too soon as well. Blizzard probably feel compelled to do so to try and grow the player base but the hero pool feels too small still.
Another problem is there's really only one viable strategy to playing this game. 5-Man Doto/Deathballing. The flavour of the 5-man deathball changes a bit map-to-map with the objective and the mercenaries but it's always 5-man. There's the potential for split-pushing and gank-centric teams but those things are currently limited by hero, objective and map design in HotS. Past 10 there's rarely a reason for some key hero to be out alone that can get caught out by a ganker like a Clinkz, Bounter Hunter or Nyx. Or in HotS's case, Zeratul or Nova. There's no farming, no jungling, no reason to split up past 10, not a whole lot of risk/reward for doing so. I think that's why I like Dragonshire, it's one of the few maps that forces the team to remain split up, for at least a portion of play, until one summons the dragon knight. It's one of the few maps where laning assignments, hero match ups, rotations or lack there of, feel like they matter and can really decide the early game.
It feels like a big problem this game has is once there's no mirror matches, the list of viable heroes is pretty short. I think they're forcing the competitive scene too soon and probably "released" the game too soon as well. Blizzard probably feel compelled to do so to try and grow the player base but the hero pool feels too small still.
Another problem is there's really only one viable strategy to playing this game. 5-Man Doto/Deathballing. The flavour of the 5-man deathball changes a bit map-to-map with the objective and the mercenaries but it's always 5-man. There's the potential for split-pushing and gank-centric teams but those things are currently limited by hero, objective and map design in HotS. Past 10 there's rarely a reason for some key hero to be out alone that can get caught out by a ganker like a Clinkz, Bounter Hunter or Nyx. Or in HotS's case, Zeratul or Nova. There's no farming, no jungling, no reason to split up past 10, not a whole lot of risk/reward for doing so. I think that's why I like Dragonshire, it's one of the few maps that forces the team to remain split up, for at least a portion of play, until one summons the dragon knight. It's one of the few maps where laning assignments, hero match ups, rotations or lack there of, feel like they matter and can really decide the early game.
Outdoor Miner
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They really do need to change this but I'm not sure how without major redesigns of everything.
You just need more maps like DS where you can't really do everything as a 5man. Would love to see Arathi Basin, for instance.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
interesting draft picks from tempo storm
That's definitely what's going on- the teams are huddling around 2 PAs on each side with an IPad, but then the PAs leave minutes before the final draft picks are done.
lolZuna.
edit: Yeah, I didn't understand revealing him so early- I guess they were worried about one of Ty/Butcher getting snapped up or banned.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
what the hell is the butcher doing man
WonderRade
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WonderRade
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lots of crazy team fights, tempo doing a little better but are still making losing trades
that one lady in the crowd doesn't stop lol
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
they lost on the draft, they probably can't choose butcher so soon. but, zuna was doing like a 1v5 at one point inside the other team's fort, like what the hell was that
They just showed her and all she did was scream into the camera.
Guys should change those signs to Lady Stop Screaming.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
That was a sick wraith walk combo
Brawndo Addict
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So whatever heroes are used in the final game go on sale this week? Or is just the heroes on the winning team?
I don't think dread knows how SSS works. Divine Palm could have actually worked against all that aoe and the kerrigan combo too. Such bad play and decision making coming out of TS in this series.
I would be very surprised if he didn't see any changes. Also, his master skin is lame. 10k gold for a helmet
I would be very surprised if he didn't see any changes. Also, his master skin is lame. 10k gold for a helmet
Winning team, final game, I believe, for next week.
Skins the week after that.
Hoping for Snowman Jaina.
You get another shoulder pad out of it too!
I'm going to spec on a medium powered hero that Blizzard is going to make playable with the next patch. Tychus? Thrall?
Yeah, I noticed that too- he's not using SSS right at all.
edit: Tychus is actually playable already - most of the Specs/Assassins are.
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Familienoberhauptvogel
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I love how C9 is always retreating towards their immortal when fights don't go their way and Tempostorm always follows greedily.
On this map I don't think it's greed as much as it is zoning.
edit: Money only, part of the 50% off sale. (25% if a legendary skin)
Familienoberhauptvogel
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TS lost the chase and a hero in the process the first couple times afterwards C9 just didn't execute fights all that well.
Losing a hero in a trade that early isn't too bad when it allows you more time to DPS on the way back. Battlefield is weird.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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did that happen? Felt to me like C9 came out very advantageous.
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