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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK

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Ketch

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The stuff that this one says: https://embed.gyazo.com/e8ee023835b078815ca50d8eaa69c0a4.jpg

is mind boggling to me.

creates a que.
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I guess I always knew that it wasn't creating a que already because you can restart your search and get a match instantly after having waited for minutes. But like, that's a huge fucking problem, and they're just now fixing it. I know there's no sense in getting mad about it now. But it really makes me wonder what they mean by: "relies less on swapping".

grandmaster looks like the hearthstone system which is a-ok with me. I wonder if/when season reset will be.
 
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Milly79

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Just watched a rehearsal of tomorrows panel on Blizzcon Virtual Ticket. Here are some highlights/spoilers:

**Matchmaking**

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* Build games based on MMR so players will be closer ranked

* 10 minute wait time max instead of 6 minutes

* Time will not determine match quality

* New formulas will match games based more closely on MMR

**2016 Fixes**

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* Improve MMR accuracy

* MORE mirror team comp in Quick Match

* Make MMR determined by performance in game, not just wins
and losses

* Per hero MMR! (this is crazy cool)

**Admitting faults**

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* Rank losses too harsh

* Needs seasons

* Not enough transparency

* Talent Gating bad -- removing it

**Death Recap System**

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* Shows last 10 things that happened to your character

**Bans**

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* 2016 Ban system in Hero League and Team League

**Grandmaster Rank**

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* Similar to Legend in Hearthstone

* Show if you are among the best in the world

**Free Hero Rotation**

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* Increase hero rotation from 7 to 10 heroes
 
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Ketch

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Milly79 said:
Good thing they're fake eh
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I spoke, and so it came to be.

mirror matches are lame as fuck. I guess they just mean like team comp wise you should get the same number of assassins, supports, warriors, specialists on each team... but it really sucks when you feel like playing TLV or abathur or something else weird in QM and you end up facing that same hero.
 
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Ketch

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someone else probably remembers this a lot better then me, but I really liked the ladder in SC2. ranking up in SC2 wasn't just based on points... it was like you were assigned to a ladder, and the ladder was broken up into divisions (bronze, silver, gold, etc.) and you could go in game and check where you were on the ladder and who else was in your division and see how they are doing. But anyway, when you were doing good enough to be at the top of your division you'd be like "up for promotion" or something, and if you played well in your games you'd get promoted and it was like an awesome surprise because you never knew when it was coming.

I wish they did that.

edit: god damnit i'm gettin loopy without sleep. i need to go to bed
 
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brian!

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Mmr determined by performance in game sounds awful, like you already know what metrics they have in mind

Finally removing talent gating tho
10 minute max wait + time will not affect mm is pretty @__@
 
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Maledict

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brian! said:
Mmr determined by performance in game sounds awful, like you already know what metrics they have in mind
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Yep. I've been arguing for a long time that the game would be made considerably better by completely removing the stats screen. It does far more damage than good for players. The idea that your mmr will be affected by those numbers is truly terrifying.

Interesting thing - LoL is about to do the reverse of hots, and open up its solo / duo queue to larger groups. Possibly they have a player base large enough to accommodate this?
 
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brian!

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Yeah they do, i dunno how itll turn out though, league ppl have said that playing w/ friends is how the game is supposed to be played but that this is also designed to benefit the odd person out in the queues
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Ketch said:
I spoke, and so it came to be.

mirror matches are lame as fuck. I guess they just mean like team comp wise you should get the same number of assassins, supports, warriors, specialists on each team... but it really sucks when you feel like playing TLV or abathur or something else weird in QM and you end up facing that same hero.
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It's almost assuredly composition mirroring.

Like having three warriors and two supports versus four assassins and a supporting is often really brutal. This would avoid that.
 
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Maledict

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The author of the post on Reddit said he had stuck it in as a joke and didn't realise people would take it seriously. That's why that list vanished.
 
Ronabo

Ronabo

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Ok, is anyone else experiencing a 1 second complete freeze of the game when someone does an Ult or a move you haven't seen yet during the game?

This just started happening that past couple of days. It's driving me crazy.
 
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Alur

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Probably unpopular opinion, but I am mostly a big fan of actual mirror matchmaking.

There's nothing worse than queuing solo in QM and getting a guy who is brand new at Abathur on your team on Dragon Shire (and probably a bad comp for Abby to boot), while your enemy can hold all 3 lanes pretty steadily. Happens to me a lot.

I'm always relieved when I see Abathur vs Abathur, or Murky vs Murky.

The only time I don't like it is when I am playing Murky myself, and then it takes my advantage away.

Ronabo said:
Ok, is anyone else experiencing a 1 second complete freeze of the game when someone does an Ult or a move you haven't seen yet during the game?

This just started happening that past couple of days. It's driving me crazy.
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I was having lag and freezing yesterday. Turned out it was my sound card drivers causing the issue, and I know that sound card issues were the root cause of a whole mess of the lag people were experiencing not too long ago so maybe look into that? No clue if that's your problem, but seems as good a place as any to start.
 
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Alur

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That's definitely not Illidan's Nightmare so wonder where that mount is going.

Also, just based on the image that mount is fucking hideous boys.
 
Yoshichan

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
they will never do the hero thing again because of people abusing the system

i feel like i was the only legit
 
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Familienoberhauptvogel

Banned
Was it wildly abused? Didn't even see a single thread on reddit discussing it.

I only mentioned it here because I was certain there'd be max ~12 people reading it and Blizz wouldn't feel compelled to crack down on it.
 
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Alur

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Yoshichan said:
they will never do the hero thing again because of people abusing the system

i feel like i was the only legit
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I did 1 legit 1 pre-order cancel. Since I have all heroes on 2 accounts, no shame.

Familienoberhauptvogel said:
Was it wildly abused? Didn't even see a single thread on reddit discussing it.
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Pretty sure it was in several reddit threads in the comments, but not something they would just let a thread go frontpage on obviously. It sure as hell was in here and in other circles.

Honestly at their prices they can afford to lose sales on 1 hero IMO.
 
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Ketch

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I mean they're supposedly doing it for tracer and overwatch so....



Also getting stuck aba vs aba, murky vs murky, or tlv vs tlv is the worst. Think about it. It just means the first time they try to pick it in HL they'll have even less experience.

Speaking of less experience, I finally decided to try rexxar in HL last night and it did not go well. It was on BB which is decent for Rex for mercing and solo laning I was last pick and hovered on Rex the whole time no complaints until after I selected and then ETC bitches the entire match (like ETC is some top tier pick anyway).

Anyway I get forced into soaking the top two lanes on BB by myself, because the rest of my team is in the middle of the map doing fuck knows what. We get behind by a lot obviously, and lose the game by level 16. I have highest siege, hero, and xp contribute.

ETC who bitched the entire time has 3k xp by lvl 16 when we lose. I try to explain to ETC that we lost not because we lacked damage but because we're 3 levels behind by the time they hit 10. I told him to check his xp because he's got like 1/4 the of anyone else's..... And he goes: "oh"
 
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protonium

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I've played against a number of Azmodan's lately that employ Abathur-like tactics. They remain out of sight, behind their forward-most gates hurling orbs, casting demon warriors from the shadows/bushes and orbs, rotating to push out 2 lanes, and summoning lieutenants in the 3rd lane. The sustained lane pressure has been super effective and a pain in the ass to control. They rarely pop out/overextend to get ganked and wreck the siege damage and exp charts in the end. The build goes something like this. I may need to rethink my Azmodan play style and "fire ze laser" build.
 
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Vanillalite

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Hate being a healer, seeing two of my team try and go in when I know the other whole team is there, and then act like why didn't I heal them through it. :|
 
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Milly79

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protonium said:
I've played against a number of Azmodan's lately that employ Abathur-like tactics. They remain out of sight, behind their forward-most gates hurling orbs, casting demon warriors from the shadows/bushes and orbs, rotating to push out 2 lanes, and summoning lieutenants in the 3rd lane. The sustained lane pressure has been super effective and a pain in the ass to control. They rarely pop out/overextend to get ganked and wreck the siege damage and exp charts in the end. The build goes something like this. I may need to rethink my Azmodan play style and "fire ze laser" build.
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That's typically the build I take, for the most part. At 13 I take move on E and at 20 it's either black pool slow or blink. Hardly do I ever take the 2nd D charge, as the lanes are pretty pushed at that point.
 
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RumblingRosco

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protonium said:
I've played against a number of Azmodan's lately that employ Abathur-like tactics. They remain out of sight, behind their forward-most gates hurling orbs, casting demon warriors from the shadows/bushes and orbs, rotating to push out 2 lanes, and summoning lieutenants in the 3rd lane. The sustained lane pressure has been super effective and a pain in the ass to control. They rarely pop out/overextend to get ganked and wreck the siege damage and exp charts in the end. The build goes something like this. I may need to rethink my Azmodan play style and "fire ze laser" build.
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Laser build is fun but I've never found it to be as good as dunk/minion builds.
 
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Alur

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lol this hype for Fan on the Blizzcon pre-stream.

"He's the LeBron James of Heroes of the Storm".

"He must be a Youtube commenter because he loves being 1st 1st 1st"
 
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