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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK
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idk I like the healbot aspect of it. I don't really think dota style supports fit hots because supports in dota aren't always healers/sustainability heroes but ones whose spells early game are stronger than other heroes early game spells because spells don't scale per hero level like they do in hots. Hots is too fast paces for dota style supports which kind of fit the assassin role as weird as that sounds. Supports have higher early game burst/stuns and go around getting kills and stunning/utility movement/giving vision in the mid-late game.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Anyone watch C9 vs estar gaming?
Apparently they keep picking Zeratul for some reason.
Apparently they keep picking Zeratul for some reason.
Yeah, Dustin said there were no dates on them today.
Meh, I was hoping they would keep up the momentum from Blizzcon and release Lunara this week. Even if we don't get a patch I was excited by that.
And we do need a patch!
I'd much rather have this game's definition of support mean "you have spells that make plays and dictate the course of team fights" than "you have a heal." Pre-Crisis Uther is arguably the best support this game has ever seen, and his heal was just gravy on top of a monster kit.
I played 4-5 in Dota all the time because supports in that game were active earlier than anyone else they all had high-impact spells. I basically never play support in this game because there are only three fun ones, and people are begging for nerfs to two of them.
I didnt watch the games but i saw in the reddit thread that they were picking it into solo support tyrande which makes sense
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Yolo Sprint Divine Storm Uther? Which had next to zero counterplay since he could use it in ghost form even?
I don't see it. Why not just ban Tyrande instead. Zeratul may be able to deal with her but he doesn't make her a bad pick, on the other hand he's pretty booty atm.
I don't see it. Why not just ban Tyrande instead. Zeratul may be able to deal with her but he doesn't make her a bad pick, on the other hand he's pretty booty atm.
The theory is that you can just erase her from the map, i dunno how it worked out in practice. So by doing this you bait their team into creating a comp that revolves around a too big to fail pick and then you provide a direct answer to it. It sounds like c9s problem here was execution rather than picks from the comments but i dunno how accurate they are
It's kind of like how ppl would bait out sonya picks in the previous patches
Also i dunno if id say zeratul is necesarily bad atm, but he's a lot more difficult to use definitely and it makes sense not to pick him if you cant play around the risks he has to take now to get stuff done
It's kind of like how ppl would bait out sonya picks in the previous patches
Also i dunno if id say zeratul is necesarily bad atm, but he's a lot more difficult to use definitely and it makes sense not to pick him if you cant play around the risks he has to take now to get stuff done
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Wouldn't Nova be better for that though? Zeratul has a much harder time one shotting than she does and Tyrande past level 10 has 2 heals and is possibly the easiest hero to dismount pursuers with. They had Tyrael to boot.
It might sound fine on paper but if that doesn't work out you just gave the opposing team the single best character in the game atm
It might sound fine on paper but if that doesn't work out you just gave the opposing team the single best character in the game atm
It's not for oneshotting it's so you vp their no escape healer, positioning is super important on tyrande and zera kind of circumvents that.
I agree w/ u on zera vs. tyrande being a hard decision to make, like i definitely wouldnt have kept at it if it didnt pan out the first time. Mebbe c9 had a targetted ban for that slot also?
I agree w/ u on zera vs. tyrande being a hard decision to make, like i definitely wouldnt have kept at it if it didnt pan out the first time. Mebbe c9 had a targetted ban for that slot also?
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Is VP still the playmaker it used to be? The target nerfs to it just make it so risky and depending on the warriors picked many comps can fight for a couple seconds w/o their healer just fine and with Ults at much lesser a CD than VP.
First game they banned Tassadar first afaik. Also looks like they chose to pick the map game 2 and 3 instead of fbfp
First game they banned Tassadar first afaik. Also looks like they chose to pick the map game 2 and 3 instead of fbfp
Yeah it's way more riskier than it used to be, i assume whoever played zera (fan?) told his team that he was confident with it. The only other pick that kind of does the same thing is anub w/ web wrap
I feel like good arguments can be made on both sides but from the comments it seemed like c9 was playing booty in general
Oh looking at the drafts there wasnt even a tyrande in the first game, welp emoticon
I feel like good arguments can be made on both sides but from the comments it seemed like c9 was playing booty in general
Oh looking at the drafts there wasnt even a tyrande in the first game, welp emoticon
What I don't understand is why you would go for something that fragile & risky.
Wouldn't it be easier just to take Tyrael, Falstad and Jaina, (maybe Thrall?), and just murder her at the start of every team fight? Solo Tyrande healer means there is literally no way to prevent Tyrael judging her, whilst Jaina and Falstad line their heroics and long range damage abilities up to remove her from the game.
(Falstad in particular is great at this - long range hammer + Hinterland Blast is a good 1500 damage straight up on any character at any distance).
Wouldn't it be easier just to take Tyrael, Falstad and Jaina, (maybe Thrall?), and just murder her at the start of every team fight? Solo Tyrande healer means there is literally no way to prevent Tyrael judging her, whilst Jaina and Falstad line their heroics and long range damage abilities up to remove her from the game.
(Falstad in particular is great at this - long range hammer + Hinterland Blast is a good 1500 damage straight up on any character at any distance).
I'm watching that one right now and honestly don't understand what Zeratul is doing in that team. Maybe they've found something in scrims we aren't aware of, but I would be really surprised to see that drafted.
Why do we exactly need a patch? We just had a huge one. I swear give it 4 days, maybe a week after a patch/hero release and people start clamoring for the next.
Here you go, Turd:
http://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthe...ome_apologies_and_changes_regarding_past_and/
Here you go, Turd:
http://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthe...ome_apologies_and_changes_regarding_past_and/
Well, we know there are upcoming attempts at buffing/reworking Gazlowe, Artanis, Tychus at least. So, yeah, those are kind of... wanted.
I'm confused. Why is a caster casting something on a non-official stream off their own channel and interacting with chat a problem? That shit is like half the fun of those kinds of streams. In DotA Beyond The Summit basically built their casting studio off that kind of stuff where the casters would read stuff from chat, ask for chat spams, and ask chat for an opinion and read it. If Khaldor is just casting something on his channel what's wrong with him reading chat and making fun of the dumb shit people say? It's entertaining imo.
You're not wrong, in that we usually get the balance changes in the bigger patch (the 4 week one, rather than the 3 week one). But if I recall, we got those Morales buffs at a weird time, when we weren't expecting them, so I think that has changed some peoples' assumptions and expectations.
Reworks aside, it still happens every time we get a new patch. I for one am happy the rate at which things come. Coming from SWTOR where the updates were very few and far between. Not sure how other games handle it, but I guess it's just the world we live in now (we want more).
Because hes super thin skinned and cant laugh off trolling.
yeah that's like 99% of the fun
Yeah, we're pretty spoiled. I never would have guessed Blizzard could have kept up the rapid rate of development and patches that they have this far, given their history.
RumblingRosco
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Fuck Blizzard for matching me (as Abathur) in a Quick Match solo queue with a Cho'Gall on the Cursed Hallow with the opposing team having 5 players (Rexxar, Tyrande, Brightwing, Kael, and Kerrigan). Our other heroes were Zeratul and Malfurion.
That was some bullshit.
That was some bullshit.
I would never QM as Abathur, as much as I love him. It's suicide with the way quick match works nowadays.
RumblingRosco
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I QM as Abathur all the time. I have a really high win-rate as him in solo queue QM.
Well don't complain about the matchmaker then! ;-)
RumblingRosco
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I'm just saying, there should be a hard rule blocking Cho'Gall and Abathur on a team unless matched up against another Cho'Gall and Abathur. Having a 3v5 body-wise is awful on most maps.
jaundicejuice
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I've got 15k ear-marked for Lunara. I'm ready for a new hero I just hope she isn't too much of a glass cannon. Game seems super unforgiving with fragile heroes right now.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Patch notes:
Murky has been replaced with a Fly Swatter with a Trollface on it for the next 6 weeks
Please understand
Murky has been replaced with a Fly Swatter with a Trollface on it for the next 6 weeks
Please understand
WonderRade
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wait can you not gift skins?
My friend and I play hots together and we wanna buy eachother skins as presents
My friend and I play hots together and we wanna buy eachother skins as presents
WonderRade
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well dang, CHRISTMAS IS RUINED
hopped into a Hero League match. Team rolls 3 warriors. Guess it was to troll enemy Nova more than anything. I didnt really think we'd have a chance. We were getting stomped at the beginning too but came back and won it
I give up. I have no idea how team comps really work in this game. But I do have a sense of how to counterpick a tiny bit
I give up. I have no idea how team comps really work in this game. But I do have a sense of how to counterpick a tiny bit
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
hopped into a Hero League match. Team rolls 3 warriors. Guess it was to troll enemy Nova more than anything. I didnt really think we'd have a chance. We were getting stomped at the beginning too but came back and won it
I give up. I have no idea how team comps really work in this game. But I do have a sense of how to counterpick a tiny bit
well, the 3 warriors basically neutered nova and butcher. nazeebo probably wasnt going to be enough damage by himself for team fights either. of course it depends on build and if he was focusing on pushing or team fights, too.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Their comp was awful.
Turdburger
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This argument would make some sense if he hadn't enabled subscriber-only chat mode during games he was casting on Saturday
jaundicejuice
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^^That line-up is hilarious, as Raynor you must've had an unassailable position to just stand there and right-click stuff.
I bought one thing in the sale, the year long booster. Cos I'm a chump. Now I have two subscriptions basically.
I bought one thing in the sale, the year long booster. Cos I'm a chump. Now I have two subscriptions basically.
i'm sure this will last like 2 weeks and khaldor will be back to what he was doing before. He said a million times in SC2 that he was guna stop doing X and then a few weeks later he was back doing X
I have not really seen enough hots e-sports stuff to know what makes a good/bad caster. I think Khaldors more funny in a clowny unaware sort of way more than I think he's a good caster.
Would you say he's an EPIC clown?
Or more like a INCREDIBLE clown?
Or perhaps a CANT MISS clown?
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