I would not be shocked to see them tune some knobs back up slightly.
There are characters you're cool with not seeing play in competitive.
She's almost certainly not one of them.
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There are characters you're cool with not seeing play in competitive.
She's almost certainly not one of them.
there's multiple ways they could fix it
they could add more roles like bruisers, supports, healers, siege.
they could let people pick their role when queing up. (ie. I pick tyrande and then I get two check boxes, one for damage, one for healer. Or if I pick rexxar i would get an options for dps/specialist/tank)
They could just make QM blind pick, where you get matched with 4 people first and can see what heroes your teammates want to play before locking yours in.
they could add more roles like bruisers, supports, healers, siege.
they could let people pick their role when queing up. (ie. I pick tyrande and then I get two check boxes, one for damage, one for healer. Or if I pick rexxar i would get an options for dps/specialist/tank)
They could just make QM blind pick, where you get matched with 4 people first and can see what heroes your teammates want to play before locking yours in.
I'm down with these.
I wish they'd set it up like WoW raid finder/dungeon finder just like The Core podcast suggested.
You queue up as the roles you are willing to play...it puts you into a lobby when it's found a match and you are only able to pick heroes that can perform that role. Problem solved.
Give healers and tanks incentive with more gold or what have you.
healers and tanks will have more incentive just by having shorter que times.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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you'd think that but there's still 9 dps for every 1 tank or healer in wow.
That's what they thought in WoW too, but it never works that way lol.
They have shorter queue times right now in reality, probably, but no one plays em.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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even if you play them chances are high you somehow end up as double support.
That is one of the issues with the system. The way they monetized it and everything else encourages you to play multiple heroes and complete those quests.
jaundicejuice
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I don't know why I blanked on Xul.
They could "fix" Quick Match by adding a 1 min Draft with no bans. Then it's up to the players to make the shitty comps.
They could "fix" Quick Match by adding a 1 min Draft with no bans. Then it's up to the players to make the shitty comps.
Of course it will. But if we have 250,000 players (just throwing that number out there, I have no clue), and we can convince even 5% of those players to queue as tank or heals a couple nights a week instead of pew pewing, then it's worth it.
And at least a few thousand would be willing to do it. Considering you only need 1 healer for QM (and don't even necessarily need a tank, though it's ideal), that would make a lot of people's games better.
yea and i'm saying you'll get that 5% to pick tank/support just so they dont have to wait in a 6 minute que.
Sure 5% will do that. And a little carrot will get another 5% as well.
Crazy how further incentivizing things works on people. Almost like magic. Or do double EXP week/weekends not make people level up more heroes? Oh yeah, it does do that, it do.
It's basically the same thing as EXP weekends, not sure what there is to argue about to be honest.
jaundicejuice
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You can add all sorts of systems and incentives but at the end of the day, a lot of players are stupid and/or selfish. I mean look at Overwatch, it has a pretty brilliant role evaluation system at match start and people pretty much flat-out ignore it. You don't have any/enough builders/support/tanks on defence, and this is clearly displayed on the side of the screen, yet they still double down on multiple Tracers/Ninja-dude/Arrow Guy/Shithead Cowboy.
You could have people bonus queue as a solo-support, not build support/heals and fuck over their team. That's happened in enough of my games, both on my team and the enemy team. It always costs that team the game. "I'm going DPS Malf" Face, desk.
You could have people bonus queue as a solo-support, not build support/heals and fuck over their team. That's happened in enough of my games, both on my team and the enemy team. It always costs that team the game. "I'm going DPS Malf" Face, desk.
Of course. There's always assholes and shitty people. But WoW has proven giving a small incentive on top of the queue time will get at least some people to swap roles, so I don't see what the harm in it is. Of any MOBA, this is the one that could basically mirror that same kind of incentive based thing. It's not there to convince everyone, it's just there to up the percentage of supports and tanks and it would do that.
People go support in r1 hero league and then build DPS now. Assholes are gonna asshole. To me that's not really an argument against the incentive, that's just the hazards of the business itself.
People go support in r1 hero league and then build DPS now. Assholes are gonna asshole. To me that's not really an argument against the incentive, that's just the hazards of the business itself.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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The notification alone is helpful even more so in a game that doesn't take a month to reach lvl 100 on a new char.
Jake is uploading a vid with the news tomorrow 8 PDT (same time as grubby 17:00 CEST)
Jake is uploading a vid with the news tomorrow 8 PDT (same time as grubby 17:00 CEST)
jaundicejuice
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This is one of the things that frustrates me about the talent system in HotS versus items/economy in Dota. If a support player doesn't play proper support in Dota there are heroes where I can buy support items like a Mekanism (AoE heal plus stats/armor for carrier), Arcane Boots (AoE Mana burst mana regen) or a Force Staff (displaces holder or target by moving them forward, plus int stats) to supplement the lack of proper support without being a detriment to my heroes build. I can counter someone's bad item build with a decent one, or at least make up for it.
In HotS I'm dependent on support players picking a talent like Cleanse, in Dota I can farm a BKB to grant myself temporary immunity. It's harder to have individual success or counter someone's bad choices in HotS versus Dota.
In HotS I'm dependent on support players picking a talent like Cleanse, in Dota I can farm a BKB to grant myself temporary immunity. It's harder to have individual success or counter someone's bad choices in HotS versus Dota.
What bracket are you playing in that you're dependent on supports picking Cleanse? Shit, people pick it all the time at 3k MMR and still can't do it right or don't use it, etc. I can't really think of anything other than the heroics that you are really truly boned by on most supports.
Honestly as team based as this game is, even if you could still do items to shore up a weakness to that degree you'd still get waxed if your team sucked. The issue for me is more about how reliant you are on the weakest link of your team regardless of what they talent or whatever. If you're too slow/make bad plays/etc, won't matter if you netdeck your build.
jaundicejuice
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Even if it's picked you're counting on someone else to use the ability versus actively being able to mitigate things on your own.
scoobs
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Well we know the 2 new heroes and a bunch of new skins/mounts... so there's that
brickwalker0
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QM is a plague on society but they're never getting rid of it. Blizzard's priority has always been accessibility and i believe Jeff Kaplan has stated a few times (regarding all of their games) when an issue like this comes up, they'd rather players be mad at the game (HoTS matchmaking in this case) instead of players mad at each other just because they picked the hero they wanted despite jeopardising the team's comp.
unranked draft is my most requested feature, was my fav mode in LoL.
Grandmaster league info: https://dvsgaming.org/heroes-of-the-storm-seasons-and-ranked-play-revamp/
Grandmaster league info from Gosugamers: http://www.gosugamers.net/heroesoft...les-out-new-ranking-system-along-with-seasons
Chromie and Medivh info: https://tempostorm.com/articles/int...he-newest-heroes-to-enter-heroes-of-the-storm
Medivh reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DunY5JgzRo
Chromie highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAvATTZwzYw
Grandmaster league info from Gosugamers: http://www.gosugamers.net/heroesoft...les-out-new-ranking-system-along-with-seasons
Chromie and Medivh info: https://tempostorm.com/articles/int...he-newest-heroes-to-enter-heroes-of-the-storm
Medivh reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DunY5JgzRo
Chromie highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAvATTZwzYw
Apparently it was going to move up to 3-man queue in HL, but Grubby says all of the people invited out were heavily against it so it's delayed/not in the update.
RIP Lightknite69
Is that for preseason or for season 1?
RIP Lightknite69
Is that for preseason or for season 1?
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Soft resets sounds decent enough.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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this also counts highest achieved? And pre reset?
Cause I fell out of 18 and don't feel like climbing back with my current games.
Cause I fell out of 18 and don't feel like climbing back with my current games.
Khaldor interviews Browder about the new rank system and MMR changes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrA2JP-FAwc
Seasons set to last 8 to 12 weeks. Damn, that's quick. Pretty good incentive to keep playing.
I dunno about that. I know the future ranked system does. Not sure if the rewards for the past stuff do though.
Seasons set to last 8 to 12 weeks. Damn, that's quick. Pretty good incentive to keep playing.
I dunno about that. I know the future ranked system does. Not sure if the rewards for the past stuff do though.
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