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[Milly79]

New player or not, skill alone should carry them over nobodies IMO.

I mean that sounds great and should be the case, but too many variables, IMo.

 

[Alur]

It's still the same main 4 it's been for like a year now. We've seen plenty of teams pick up one guy and stomp as well. TS with Zuna, C9 with Fan, BRFC as a completely new team, etc.

There's no way they should lose to a non top 4 team without a complete rosterpocalypse. Like Mal said, they used to troll draft these games.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Seems like cattle switched roles to true flex.

 

[Milly79]

New Tempo v. Semi-new C9 in the finals.

 

[Celegus]

Just like old times!

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Did Zixz role swap wasn't he the support for tempo?

 

[Zackat]

How is Tychus now? I see him picked in this game but that could just be a situational thing.

 

[Alur]

Zixz was support yeah. What's he on now?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

tank apparently

 

[Isaccard]

I wish a Team I had any kind of affinity for played this game

but to be fair the only e-sports teams I'm familiar with are involved with the Fighting Game Community so idk maybe they do?

 

[Alur]

Wow. Who was the pickup, btw?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

TigerJK? Know him from somewhere.

 

[Milly79]

TigerJK or Scylol?

C9 looked good against Tempo. 2nd game was a bit back and forth though.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Arth is out of hots.

 

[Milly79]

Arth is out of hots.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Lastly there is a lot of random and untrue comments being thrown out about me on the hots subreddit [...]
But people will think what they want to think, I have been a top player in Heroes for 2 years now, and have always been on either the #1 or #2 team, so fuck the haters I have nothing I need to prove.

...

 

[Milly79]

 

[kirblar]

 

[Ketch]

I think there's a very real difference between nothing you have to prove vs nothing you can prove.

 

[RumblingRosco]

I miss Haunted Mines. To this day I think Blizzard is a bunch of jerks for taking it out of rotation.

 

[protonium]

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[Alur]

Wow. Rekt or did you make a game of it?

 

[Ken]

How do you play against Murky? He seems like such a weird character.

Namely the egg/respawn thing.

 

[scoobs]

How do you play against Murky? He seems like such a weird character.

Namely the egg/respawn thing.

He's a specialist, and his specialty is being annoying. You can't ignore him and let him siege, so blow him up whenever you see him, but don't bother chasing him because his deaths are worth so little. If you're playing support be sure to pick up cleanse to cleanse his ultimate. Also if you kill his egg he can actually be "killed" like a normal hero, so its not a bad idea to check the bushes for his egg and trying to kill him.

 

[kirblar]

Nova/Zeratul make life hell for him.

Korean Super League winner's finals in 15 btw. OGNGLOBAL on Twitch

 

[Dr. Buni]

Besides the stealthies, fighting Tracer as Murky is really aggravating.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

in the 1v1 McIntyre didn't get the note of showmatch.

 

[Milly79]

Was the 1v1 a bracket or did they just play X vs. X. Basically what I'm asking was there a winner?

 

[protonium]

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[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Was the 1v1 a bracket or did they just play X vs. X. Basically what I'm asking was there a winner?

the pairings were predetermine afaik but the hero to be played was strawpolled.

The showmatch had 2 winners pick their team out of the 8 other winners. McIntyre vs Mewnfare. While Mewnfare's team went for Tracer, Chromie, Sonya, Uther, Arthas. McIntyre went for Tassadar, Tyrande, Thrall, Falstad, ETC. Guess the winner.

 

[Ketch]

the pairings were predetermine afaik but the hero to be played was strawpolled.

The showmatch had 2 winners pick their team out of the 8 other winners. McIntyre vs Mewnfare. While Mewnfare's team went for Tracer, Chromie, Sonya, Uther, Arthas. McIntyre went for Tassadar, Tyrande, Thrall, Falstad, ETC. Guess the winner.

It was actually a really close game, and chromie was actually really good, if that effects your choice.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

It was actually a really close game, and chromie was actually really good, if that effects your choice.

Still a fun comp vs a pretty competitive one. Chromie was great but the game was over as soon as they started flanking her.

 

[Ketch]

Still a fun comp vs a pretty competitive one. Chromie was great but the game was over as soon as they started flanking her.

Well I was trying not to spoil it.

But still, I think the game showed that unconventional can be just as competitive as standard team comps. Chromie did a surprising amount of work and was actually a pretty good last pick. They were vastly out skilled if you consider the players reputations, yet they still almost won...

 

[Dr. Buni]

I miss Haunted Mines. To this day I think Blizzard is a bunch of jerks for taking it out of rotation.

They should really bring it back. A StarCraft map + Haunted Mines reworked for Garden of Terror and Boringfield of Eternity.

 

[Maledict]

Haunted Mines was so broken, and so unfun. It would need massive, massive changes to bring it back - there's a reason it;'s the only map they have removed from the pool.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Well I was trying not to spoil it.

But still, I think the game showed that unconventional can be just as competitive as standard team comps. Chromie did a surprising amount of work and was actually a pretty good last pick. They were vastly out skilled if you consider the players reputations, yet they still almost won...

they weren't that outskilled. Like mewn said, he plays a lot with them and he got equinox didn't he? Felt rather equal playerwise the deciding factor to me really was the comp.

 

[Dr. Buni]

Haunted Mines was so broken, and so unfun. It would need massive, massive changes to bring it back - there's a reason it;'s the only map they have removed from the pool.

It was unbalanced, yes, but being unfun is solely your opinion.

 

[kirblar]

It had a large number of shitty onesided stomps, way more than other maps.

 

[Maledict]

It was unbalanced, yes, but being unfun is solely your opinion.

Oh yes, absolutely. I don't find unbalanced, broken maps fun. They reworked that map three times and couldn't fix it - I really doubt it will come back anytime soon thank god.

It was never played by the pro teams and easily the most disliked whenever it came up on Reddit. I'd much rather they brought us new maps rather than revisit that one.

 

[kirblar]

PSA/FYI: Free Jaina keys in the Origins Edition PC box. I've got one if anyone needs one.

edit: gone to Sajjaja

 

[Duress]

Every one is playing Overwatch. HoTS is done.

 

[Sajjaja]

PSA/FYI: Free Jaina keys in the Origins Edition PC box. I've got one if anyone needs one.

I'd like it please.

 

[kirblar]

I'd like it please.

PM sent.

 

[Sajjaja]

PM sent.

Thanks!

 

[Ketch]

they weren't that outskilled. Like mewn said, he plays a lot with them and he got equinox didn't he? Felt rather equal playerwise the deciding factor to me really was the comp.

i mean, i think the actual deciding factor was the mosh pits, but even then it was still really close either way. it's not like there were multiple level lead in either direction or that the chromie tracer comp didn't have a chance to win. I mean they won the last fight instead of getting 4 man moshed they probably would have won the game.

 

[Altairre]

4 games with Zeratul, 4 losses. I dunno I feel like I'm doing Zeratul things, I don't die often, my damage is about on par with the other assassins. I just can't seem to win with him.

 

[brian!]

gota make plays

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

4 games with Zeratul, 4 losses. I dunno I feel like I'm doing Zeratul things, I don't die often, my damage is about on par with the other assassins. I just can't seem to win with him.

damage is imho a poor metric for Zeratul. Often the right thing with Zeratul is not to engage in a fight until you can pick off a target. Don't be afraid to lane with him as well if the comp calls for it or your teammates are slacking he's surprisingly good at it.

 

[Altairre]

Trying to. Just lost another one because my team refused to do temples on sky temple. We got one over the course of the game. We had more kills at the end but we lost all our buildings because no one would occupy the temples. Can't do that shit alone with Zeratul.

Results from the game just now:

 

[Alur]

Ketch, we playin' dat OW tonight?

It was unbalanced, yes, but being unfun is solely your opinion.

What's fun about being left at the mercy of RNG, though? If one team got Sylvanas your odds of winning decreased dramatically. The only halfway counter was Tassadar, It might be less bad now with bans, but I hope they've seriously reworked it in order to make it less snowball-y.