Alpha Centauri
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You have to be below 15% and it triggers. 16% wont, and going from 30% to 0% won't do it either. Have to cross the threshold.
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You have to be below 15% and it triggers. 16% wont, and going from 30% to 0% won't do it either. Have to cross the threshold.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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thx
Oh the KT was on our team.
It's the regular CD not on an internal separate right? So if I waste it, it won't proc until it is off CD again. And only when going from >15% to <14%. So say I'm at 14% HP and receive none lethal damage it still won't trigger. Is there any UI indicator for when you're below the threshold.
In the posted game I just couldn't afford healing myself and had to stick around low quite some time so that'd actually have been helpful.
jaundicejuice
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how do I deal with Artanis. He seems to have shields for forever and does a ton of damage. And then he jumps around so much.
Disengage and walk away.
Dodge the swap and his dash (especially the slide back) and you're good. Unless your most of your team is present to help stun and burst down Artanis quickly, just ignore him. After swap there's not a whole lot he can do to lock anyone down. The number of times I've watched two or three low-health teammates try to focus down a low-health, late-game Artanis and lose, while letting someone else actually important with low health they could kill get away, is kind of maddening.
Yeah just giving an example, burst will kill you. It has a separate cd i dont recall if theyve provided an icon for it yet. Itll auto trigger at that threschold once the cd comes back, think of it like raynor passive
I'm in HL hell.
Rank 34? Or something.
And the amount of first ban Morales picks is maddening.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Wait so it procs even if the ability is on CD? The internal CD isn't really advertised anywhere I looked if that's the case
I feel you bro.
Zoia is calling it quits with HoTS applied to dayjobs again. Still wants to continue casting but not sure if HoTS.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sop1gr
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Projecting. Never got that feeling.
Ok so it's on a 45 sec CD, which it doesn't say when hovering over the ability, and I didn't notice a visual indicator. What do you mean by playing forward?
lol no.
Alpha Centauri
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pseudo-aggressive positioning. If the enemy team turns to focus on you, its ok cause you have a get out of jail free card. Auto-heal up and get back out there. I'm a bit more cautious then that, but i've seen it done successfully. However i love playing against a tass that overextends. I do my best to punish the enemy team everytime.
FeelsBad
yeah try to bait important cds, bring another body to confuse them on targeting, etc.
it confuses a lot of people since a lot of the time they get caught in the loop of oh tass shield is much more effective on his allies vs. oh I probably can't kill tass so I should hit the other guy vs. oh there's more targets and my brain is bad at processing that, plus it lets you zone harder with psi storm since you're dropping it in the middle of frontline and backline (and a lot of ppl have a hard time deciding whether they should just eat the psi-storm or run, it results in a funky dance they do sometimes it's kind of funny)
you dont really want to drop the shield on yourself in general but the cd is low and sometimes it messes w/ ppl that you're willing to do that, ppl who choose to focus you but see you shield yourself usually abandon that idea pretty quickly
it confuses a lot of people since a lot of the time they get caught in the loop of oh tass shield is much more effective on his allies vs. oh I probably can't kill tass so I should hit the other guy vs. oh there's more targets and my brain is bad at processing that, plus it lets you zone harder with psi storm since you're dropping it in the middle of frontline and backline (and a lot of ppl have a hard time deciding whether they should just eat the psi-storm or run, it results in a funky dance they do sometimes it's kind of funny)
you dont really want to drop the shield on yourself in general but the cd is low and sometimes it messes w/ ppl that you're willing to do that, ppl who choose to focus you but see you shield yourself usually abandon that idea pretty quickly
Familienoberhauptvogel
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It's weird when similar abilities get an indicator in the 1-4 slots just for that or overwrite the trait if possible. Johanna's indestructible for instance.
comparison said:
It's inconsistent.
Ah thanks I've seen that in competitive but never had the luxury to try it out since I'm usually solo supporting with tass.
There's reluctance to do so but I had to to harass hammer alone in that game. Tass is tons of fun tho.
i kinda just chalk up all most of the wonkiness in the game to the engine because I don't know how any of that works
like maybe there is something about talents vs. skills that prevents them from doing that, i dunno, I've played enough tass to kinda get a feel for when it's on/off cd
also I had no idea indestructible was on a 2min cd
oh wait no I'm confusing it with her regular d skill
i dunno remember these are the ppl who just selectively nerfed a bunch of stun durations but left a couple alone, a lot of stuff isn't very thorough in this game
like maybe there is something about talents vs. skills that prevents them from doing that, i dunno, I've played enough tass to kinda get a feel for when it's on/off cd
also I had no idea indestructible was on a 2min cd
oh wait no I'm confusing it with her regular d skill
i dunno remember these are the ppl who just selectively nerfed a bunch of stun durations but left a couple alone, a lot of stuff isn't very thorough in this game
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Probably, I'm so rarely playing tass that I struggle even just shielding some1 up every 5 seconds.
Also in regards to Zoia I'm surprised Jhow actually got recognition he was just there one day and got called back to events since. He was a relatively unknown caster doing amateur leagues IIRC.
Also in regards to Zoia I'm surprised Jhow actually got recognition he was just there one day and got called back to events since. He was a relatively unknown caster doing amateur leagues IIRC.
Cause they their regulars. Cooby and Jester both bailed.
I 100% understand his reasoning. That said, people like him leaving are bad for this scene. It peaked at like 14k viewers in the NA regional from what I saw. Numbers are getting smaller not bigger. Big names are leaving, not coming. He got boxed out of what he wanted to do, but it's still sad all the way around.
Wish they'd just put THH back together at the least.
Also shocked he's almost 26.
Haha, I can see where you got that vibe. Gilly is married IIRC, however, so there was never a chance.
JHow has actually been pretty great. Not surprised he caught on once he got a chance.
That's kind of the thing more veteran esports people always said about HOTS back at the start...eventually players and personalities would come in and supplant the ones who built it or seemed "the best" at the time. We've seen it happen to some degree with Dread and JHow on the personality side...not so much on the pro side though. At least no one previously established coming into the game late.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
makes sense
Yeah, sad to see him go but he's been taking a step back for awhile now. Hots competitive is in a pretty sad state not sure anything they can do now. Best chance is still HoTD though I wouldn't entirely be surprised if that got supplanted by Overwatch next year.
Technically HoTD is doing that tho. The reigning champions are 2/5ths a college team.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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you're right gosugamers failed me. Liquipedia the GOAT had it all.
Exactly.
An Agents of the Dorm next year seems like an inevitability doesn't it? That might be neat, actually, but since it's not F2P it may cause issues. Dunno.
HOTS esports is in a bit of a sad state indeed which sucks for me. That's my favorite part of the game now after 2+ years playing it. At least it's doing well otherwise.
An Agents of the Dorm next year seems like an inevitability doesn't it? That might be neat, actually, but since it's not F2P it may cause issues. Dunno.
HOTS esports is in a bit of a sad state indeed which sucks for me. That's my favorite part of the game now after 2+ years playing it. At least it's doing well otherwise.
Squirts Macintosh
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If any of you guys play regularly and can deal with a newish player, PM me. I've been trying to get friends to try this game but nobody else will bite and diving into quickmatch solo is a real slog. I have been mostly playing Tyrande so far up to level 6 but trying out others heroes off and on.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Not to blame Blizzard since the rate they've put out heroes has been consistent and impressive but speaking about sad state of the scene.
Ouch. That MVP Black stuff is blunt af. Good on them.
Sounds like they are beginning to go through a bit of what C9 has been going through for a while now. It's lonely at the top. You puff yourself up and so does everyone else, and then eventually someone gets lucky or you fail to...and then you're in this position. For C9, I'm not sure how many of them really love playing the game to begin with which makes it harder. I dunno MVP's situation, but I can see their POV if they feel they conquered the scene and it's slowly dying anyway.
Sounds like they are beginning to go through a bit of what C9 has been going through for a while now. It's lonely at the top. You puff yourself up and so does everyone else, and then eventually someone gets lucky or you fail to...and then you're in this position. For C9, I'm not sure how many of them really love playing the game to begin with which makes it harder. I dunno MVP's situation, but I can see their POV if they feel they conquered the scene and it's slowly dying anyway.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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It might be hilarious though for the top dogs to pretty much troll in a championship, even more so if they still end up among the top 4.
After playing a shit ton of overwatch since it came out, the biggest thing that keeps me from coming back to HotS is the jankyness and... incohesiveness? (is that a word?) It's got a real identity and lack of direction problems.
Like compared to the polish of overwatch HotS is just so obviously cobbled together on top of a different game, there's a lot of bad technical issues that have persisted forever and then you add their conflicting design/balance philosophy on top of it and it's just too much.
Whenever I'm trying to choose to play either overwatch or heroes it's like do want to put up with all this bullshit for a chance at a decent match in a game I love, or do I just slide into overwatch and be having fun in like 2 minutes from now.
Like compared to the polish of overwatch HotS is just so obviously cobbled together on top of a different game, there's a lot of bad technical issues that have persisted forever and then you add their conflicting design/balance philosophy on top of it and it's just too much.
Whenever I'm trying to choose to play either overwatch or heroes it's like do want to put up with all this bullshit for a chance at a decent match in a game I love, or do I just slide into overwatch and be having fun in like 2 minutes from now.
One thing that keeps me from playing this game is that qm matchmaking takes way too freaking long! I'm not waiting 5 minutes to get a game, rip.
And yeah I agree, the visual design of this game is a mess. Too much fanservice too, I hope they keep the future skins in check in overwatch. It's fine right now.
I play more SCII than this these days, which is none, for an apparently daed gaem, I find a game in any mode in SCII in 5 seconds.
And yeah I agree, the visual design of this game is a mess. Too much fanservice too, I hope they keep the future skins in check in overwatch. It's fine right now.
I play more SCII than this these days, which is none, for an apparently daed gaem, I find a game in any mode in SCII in 5 seconds.
Byebye have a nice tiem!
Btw Zoia said this: Oh man the things I am hearing. The potential biggest rosterpocalpyse to hit heroes is coming. PREPARE FOR THE MAD SHUFFLE PEOPLE.
Sounds kind of trolly
TNL has disband
Doom and gloom for hots. Pack it up. It's dead
Familienoberhauptvogel
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It's telling that the only times the thread isn't dead is when we discuss how sad the esports scene is.
Am I correct in remembering you disliking ToD? Because he's casting Sweden.
Faye did a recap of Burbank and what stood out to me was
Glau was shotcalling and drafting which is interesting in the sense that that was one of the common critiques of his. Among his predictability,
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Oh yeah and we completely neglected that monstrosity can now cap points and mercs. UE might actually not be the go to choice in 99.9% of the time anymore.
Am I correct in remembering you disliking ToD? Because he's casting Sweden.
Faye did a recap of Burbank and what stood out to me was
FayeHots said:
Glau was shotcalling and drafting which is interesting in the sense that that was one of the common critiques of his. Among his predictability,
something bkb has to improve upon as well
Oh yeah and we completely neglected that monstrosity can now cap points and mercs. UE might actually not be the go to choice in 99.9% of the time anymore.
That's how it's typically been since I've been here. How often have people really talked about what's going on in their games? Not often and that's an issue I've talked about with Alur. It's basically esports or hero design. I do think there has been a lull lately though with OW but new ranked will fix that.
Gotta remember, Twitch viewership isn't everything. There's plenty of people in game. Who cares how many are watching it aside from the tourneys? I don't. I find it funny when people claim it's dead because Twitch.
Blizzard isn't going to stop supporting the game anytime soon. I would says if it doesn't pan out in 3-4 years they'll do something. Have they ever canned a game that's up and running tho?
And yeah. Fuck ToD.
Gotta remember, Twitch viewership isn't everything. There's plenty of people in game. Who cares how many are watching it aside from the tourneys? I don't. I find it funny when people claim it's dead because Twitch.
Blizzard isn't going to stop supporting the game anytime soon. I would says if it doesn't pan out in 3-4 years they'll do something. Have they ever canned a game that's up and running tho?
And yeah. Fuck ToD.
Mengy
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I have pretty much only played versus AI games up until a week ago, with the occasional QMs here and there, and for both modes the queue times are not too bad. Versus AIs games usually search for half a minute, QMs a little bit longer. But Ive played nothing but Hero League games this past week, and one of the biggest negatives I have from the experience is simply getting into a damn game. Queue time can be anywhere from 3 minutes to 8 minutes!!! And then once your in the game you all need to go through the picks and bans, and THEN the level loads up. While the match itself lasts anywhere between 20 to 30 minutes, actually taking the time to play one match takes anywhere from half an hour to 45 minutes sometimes. I could literally get in over half a dozen AI matches in that same timeframe. Sure the AI matches are steamrolls and not challenging at all but for strictly earning gold / xp / daily quests, the AI games are FAR more efficient.
And yeah by comparison Overwatch is a very smooth game to jump into, much more streamlined and satisfying to get into.
Im actually enjoying the added challenge of Hero League gameplay, but man do I wish it was easier to just jump into and play.
Alpha Centauri
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I wonder if the game is top heavy when it comes to MMR. My queue times are consistently 50-100 secs for both QM and HL, and i'm complaining when it hits 120. Only time I wait longer than 2 minutes is team league
brickwalker0
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hell yes fuck overwatch, game is trash, HotS is the game of forever.
brickwalker0
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yup Medivh is a release day purchase for me, havent done that since Johanna.
ready for the sik playz
ready for the sik playz
Mengy
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Now now, Overwatch is an excellent game. That said though I won't be buying it. Even though I enjoyed all of my time in the OW beta, it's a very fun and polished game, I've decided that I can't devote the time to both OW and HotS, so I will be skipping OW and sticking with HotS. I just enjoy it more than OW.
If OW ever goes on a huge sale for dirt cheap I'll pick it up, but as a Blizzard game that isn't likely to happen for a very long time...
I feel the same way about those things, I'm just tired of dealing with them at the moment, and it's a shame because the actual game is definitely one of my favorites of all time. At least for right now I just don't want to put up with the quirks to get to the good part.
Anyone have a favorite duo to play together? I've been playing almost exclusively with my wife lately, so we can do some fun combos since communication isn't an issue. She vastly prefers support, and lately we've had great fun running Morales + Tychus. Stimmed minigun is a sight to behold.
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