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Heroes of the Storm |OT2| Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

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Alur

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I never really ever saw Mac using homophobic language regularly, though there have been a couple of times in the past he would refer to things as "gay". He did have the boob gif he looped on his green shirt, but that was about as racy as I saw. I have seen him insult other players with some cursing and the like occasionally when they get hot in game/chat, but your tolerance for that is less than mine I guess. Milly talks like that to me every day. He's definitely not on the level of Erho or mewn saltiness, at any rate.

On the subject of Cris though, how can someone regularly being very negative reassure you? Reassure you that he's not an asshole, or reassure you that you're watching the right stream, or reassure you that you agree with most of his complaints? What part of you is reassured?
 
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Alur

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Milly79 said:
I'm reassured that Maleduct is reassured.
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Haha, I had forgotten about that. Which hero was it? Falstead?
 
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Maledict

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That's how it's spelt!

I have no idea why I wrote reassured there. It's clearly not what was intended, but God knows what was. I blame the iPad. What I was trying to say was that Cris's passive aggressive negativity doesn't bother me in the same way as the more directed salty / toxic behavior of other players.

Tbh, I don't know what he used to be like because once it started I just switched off - I just don't have any time for that level of insulting, there's always something more positive to watch. Nowadays though I follow his stream so he's definitely changed since I first started watching hots twitch many many decades ago (or so it seems).
 
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Alur

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If you're not a dad yet and like your free time, def keep it that way. Kids are great but HOTSLYFE will suffer. As well as other parts of your freedom.
 
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I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I play a lot of hots..just like from 11 to 1am. Thats dad life. Why that late night player chan was great..but now that im back in j-land im back to the time shenanigans. Apparently aram is dead at 10am est..
 
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brian!

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promotion matches should put those getting promoted on the lower mmr side, gotta get those carry pants on to make the jump
i hear matchmaking is kind of fucked up atm though? to be expected though, everyone's mmr is prob still settling. and also wow @ grandmasters not being ranked by mmr, I think someone on thh suggested that it was a client limitation that prevented them from correlating it but that sounds absurd to me lol

I think in theory im ok w/ promotion matches if we are going by a point system that doesnt correlate w/ mmr, since these systems often reward spamming games
how does the one in hots work? it's a series right? in league a v-i tier jump is bo3 and a jump from something like silver->gold is bo5
 
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Alpha Centauri

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brian! said:
promotion matches should put those getting promoted on the lower mmr side, gotta get those carry pants on to make the jump
i hear matchmaking is kind of fucked up atm though? to be expected though, everyone's mmr is prob still settling. and also wow @ grandmasters not being ranked by mmr, I think someone on thh suggested that it was a client limitation that prevented them from correlating it but that sounds absurd to me lol

I think in theory im ok w/ promotion matches if we are going by a point system that doesnt correlate w/ mmr, since these systems often reward spamming games
how does the one in hots work? it's a series right? in league a v-i tier jump is bo3 and a jump from something like silver->gold is bo5
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Nah a bit different


It takes a total of 1000 points to be granted a promotion match.
Each match is +/- ~200 points

Win, you in
Lose, you minus 200+ points and rinse repeat.

Always get the baddies on my side when its a promo game
 
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brian!

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oh so you can kinda just win two after a failed promotion to get back into a promo game? in league if the system determined that your mmr decently above your rank you could sometimes even get back to the promo series w/ one win. only one promo game is kinda nuts to me, but the hots season is also a decent amount shorter so I get why'd they reward things quickly and reward ppl playing a lot.

also does cheering for bakery count as cheering for eu now?
 
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Alpha Centauri

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brian! said:
oh so you can kinda just win two after a failed promotion to get back into a promo game?
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Yes. In a vacuum you would only lose 200 points (hah), win next game and then you're ready for promo match. I'm always 1 point or 2 points shy though, requiring a whole extra game.

Like just now, I was 4 points from promotion match. I just won the game and got 202 points. Theoretically at 1198 points. If I lose the promotion though, i'm at 800 or less. Wish the system banked the points or something.


also does cheering for bakery count as cheering for eu now?
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yes nope haha
 
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Milly79

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Just watched Chu play CG on BoE

His team: CG, Tyrande, Malf, Zag
Theirs? Tass w/ shrink ray, Tychus, Tracer with the 10% bomb, Monk with SSS and Leoric.

And they won. Holy fuck I'd be so titled playing against that as CG.
 
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Milly79 said:
Just watched Chu play CG on BoE

His team: CG, Tyrande, Malf, Zag
Theirs? Tass w/ shrink ray, Tychus, Tracer with the 10% bomb, Monk with SSS and Leoric.

And they won. Holy fuck I'd be so titled playing against that as CG.
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My experience is that Leoric isn't very good there because Leoric is just SO bad right now.
 
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Alur

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Yeah, RIP Leoric. My favorite tank. Just gets rekt in the burst meta. You can't even use your Wraith Walk to survive in a lot of scenarios. I miss OP Leoric.
 
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Alur

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Felt like his kit was the first one that was really different, at least for tanks. The mechanics and all that. Kind of the precursor to the bunch we got recently who almost all have at least one unique mechanic.
 
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Alur said:
Felt like his kit was the first one that was really different, at least for tanks. The mechanics and all that. Kind of the precursor to the bunch we got recently who almost all have at least one unique mechanic.
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He's designed like a bruiser is the weird thing, yet he could solo tank on release. He really needs to be looked at hard.
 
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Alur

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That's a good point. Don't know that the solo tanking was the original intention, and now he's just not good enough at either to matter.
 
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Alur

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Not sure but I share your hype. Basically any ranged assassin/specialist that drops is good in my books for hype if they aren't dropping supports.
 
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Celegus

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Played against Vikings in garden, blew up their terror and... Jimmy Raynor pops out!? What? Why was a tiny bearded man not inside of that thing? At first I thought I forgot Vikings got a space marine skin, but no that's not a thing. The Viking player was quite good as well, so I'm assuming Jimmy just hijacked that one.
 
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Dreavus

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Kinda getting back into this game after a while.

Is 50% off typically the best you'll see for a sale on any given hero outside of bundles? I'm thinking about spending some money on the game but it's known for being
notoriously
expensive. I played Zeratul a lot when he's been on rotation a few times and thought I'd just save my rapidly depleting gold and buy him on sale.

I was also considering one of the bundles, but the problem is they all come with skins that I'm not crazy about, which means they'll just go to waste. So is this as good as it gets sale-wise?

EDIT: And is the GAF player list up to date at all? I want to get a few more people on my friends list!
 
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Familienoberhauptvogel

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Zeratul is included in the physical starter bundle they had last summer there should still be some around, it says ronin skin but it's the hero and the skin.

Were going for 8 bucks and included some other heroes too.

You can try any of these. I had them for a year now and never used them so might as well

Lili 7500101361619780784210853
Jaina 2502617047451483681813393
Zeratul 2618448987587731477560567
 
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Alur

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Dreavus said:
Is 50% off typically the best you'll see for a sale on any given hero outside of bundles?
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Yep. New heroes/skins/rarely mounts on sale each week. Sometimes a bigger sale, like for the HGC event winner heroes. And Black Friday was a month long 50% off last holiday.

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EDIT: And is the GAF player list up to date at all? I want to get a few more people on my friends list!
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Not sure the GAF list has been really kept up or updated since shortly after whoever it was converted it to a Google doc and I stopped posting it in thread.

I'm sure the names on there are correct, but unsure if more have been added or how many of those people still play. I think there's also more NA than EU by a good margin.
 
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Familienoberhauptvogel said:
Zeratul is included in the physical starter bundle they had last summer there should still be some around, it says ronin skin but it's the hero and the skin.

Were going for 8 bucks and included some other heroes too.

You can try any of these. I had them for a year now and never used them so might as well

Lili 7500101361619780784210853
Jaina 2502617047451483681813393
Zeratul 2618448987587731477560567
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Wow, thanks a bunch! I definitely was not expecting that. Looks like the Zeratul and Jaina keys worked out, and I had already had Lili from a while back (she's one of the super cheap heroes)! Thanks again man, that's really awesome of you.

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There was a super-cheap 1st anniversary hero-only (+1 mount) bundle at 70% off, but its gone now.
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Ahh too bad, I'll have to keep an eye out for those in the future. Hero-only is perfect because most of the "savings" get eaten up by including skins, some of which are not great.

Alur said:
Yep. New heroes/skins/rarely mounts on sale each week. Sometimes a bigger sale, like for the HGC event winner heroes. And Black Friday was a month long 50% off last holiday.



Not sure the GAF list has been really kept up or updated since shortly after whoever it was converted it to a Google doc and I stopped posting it in thread.

I'm sure the names on there are correct, but unsure if more have been added or how many of those people still play. I think there's also more NA than EU by a good margin.
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Alright, so it's been sitting for a bit. I have joined the neogaf chat channel but there doesn't seem to be a lot of folks on there. Might just be one of the smaller communities on GAF so that's fine.
 
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Alur

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There's a good number who play, but the function of the chat makes it borderline useless for this game. Without enabling the option you can't even see the chat in game, and you can't really respond anyway most of the time so not much point in using it.

That and people have their own groups of friends they play with now that we are 1 year into launch and 2+ years into Alpha/Beta.

If you want groups, your best bets are A) join the ARAM channel B) join the Amovetv channel C) join the frogpants channel and/or D) post for people to play with in here that are in your region and MMR range.
 
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Alavard

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Anyone else feel like it's time to remove or heavily rework daily quests?

Now that we've got unranked draft, the majority of our game modes are now drafts (unranked, HL, TL). More people are playing draft modes than before, because in addition to having unranked, we've also got a new ranked experience.

Obviously it's potentially bad if you're trying to bang out your dailies only in drafts. So if you've only got time for a few games a night, you're going to complete less dailies if you only play drafts vs if you only played QM. Sure, you could bang them out quickly in vs AI matches, but that's obviously not the intention behind them.

What it comes down to is that on one hand, Blizzard is incentivizing us to play draft modes (esp ranked, with the rewards for each season), but contradicting that with dailies.

I think Browder mentioned in passing once a few months ago that they were looking into daily quest changes, but don't think anything more ever came of it.
 
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Alur

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I understand where you're coming from, but for them to change up the necessity of doing QM or AI for dailies would negatively impact their business model. They want to funnel people into QM to keep up new hero sales because there's such a stigma against picking a new hero in either draft mode (and it's just RNG as to whoever gets first pick). If everyone moves into draft modes, I would assume that would hurt new hero launches because you have no playground to try them in.

I mean, you do get rewards for ranked mode, but you can get those by knocking out 10 games. I'm not sure it's much incentive, I think they just finally capitulated and gave us the option to do ranked modes. I think we kind of incentivized rank modes ourselves with our desire for at least semi-reasonable comps. I am curious how it affects daily quest completion and how many people are semi-throwing drafts with daily quest picks. I also kind of (and I say that knowing full well I'll regret it) don't mind people picking daily quest heroes in unranked draft. It is meant to be less serious, after all.
 
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brian!

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A win of the day reward could alleviate some of that (give you the feeling that you arent being punished for playing what you want)
 
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