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Heroes of the Storm |OT2| Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

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Celegus

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"Why are team fights always breaking out in 'my lane' "
- Clueless Zag in bot lane at ~4:30 on Sky Temple, 2016

"I just wanted to poke [alone vs 5 heroes on boss]"
- Dead Jaina "Throw" Proudmoore, 2016

Good to know all of our problems in pleb ranks are solved in master.
 

Dreavus

Member
5-4 so far in solo ranking. Lost the first 3 placement which I am thinking may have tanked my rating but we'll see. Was able to join up with a friend for my most recent 3. I would have really liked to do one more but it was getting too late.

So is it just common courtesy for both teams to ban KT and the Wizard? Every single game except one had those two banned out first (both teams).
 

Milly79

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So is it just common courtesy for both teams to ban KT and the Wizard? Every single game except one had those two banned out first (both teams).

KT and Li-Ming are typically first bans, yes. You'll also sometimes see: Tracer, Illidan, Lt. Morales, Rehgar and sometimes Tassadar.

There are times when you'll see bans targeted at certain heroes if you know someone on the other team plays them well, but that's typically high high up in the rankings.
 

Alavard

Member
So is it just common courtesy for both teams to ban KT and the Wizard? Every single game except one had those two banned out first (both teams).

They're generally the default first bans for a team that doesn't do a lot of discussion/planning before the first ban, which is most HL teams. They're rarely the optimal ban, but they're safe bans.
 

Milly79

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First ban TLV all the time so Alur can't get pick them.
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i personally have been banning Zagara first then just pick something like Anub when the enemy team innevitably picks KT or Li Ming.

note: there is a 75% chance your team will trash talk this decision until about halfway thru the match.
 

Milly79

Member
My god, this game has become miserable.

I finished out my placements today (solo) to go 5-5 and place Diamond 3. Every single game there was at least one person bitching if not 2 more often than not. The best one was the last game on ToD. Had a guy with 6k games critiquing everyone's picks right off the bat.

Us: Tracer, Lt. Morales, Dehaka, Greymane, Raynor
Them: Tassadar, Tyrande, Diablo, Xul, Valla

It was pretty even all game. At one point we were down 20 something to 8. We kept wiping them over and over. Was some pretty sweet justice to pull it out after he bitched the entire game. "I knew how this was going to go from the draft". Oh, did you now?

Very limited playtime and this is what I deal with when I do get a chance to dedicate some time to it. Really sucks. Maybe I should just start muting everyone.

Edit - Nice to see Schamtoo is coming back to HoTS by casting.
 

Ketch

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I know exactly how you feel.

I think gotta grow thicker skin. Muting everybody is kind of a bad strat maybe because sometimes communication can win the game. Although 99/100 communication is worthless garbage.


Alternatively, could just play OW and only like two games of hots since that came out.
 

kirblar

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Just play Team League. Was having a conversation w/ someone a few days ago w/ an interesting seperate perspective (the game's clearly not doing well as an "e-sport", apparently killing 3-4 player groups may have hurt more than we realize) but it also drew me to an interesting conclusion: Hero League is a quarantine zone in this game.

Do your placements, then stop. Do Unranked and TL only, and you'll enjoy the game so much more. Because the style of play HL encourages is ultimately kind of naturally toxic, un-fun and goes against what makes the game great.
Warrior
Anub'arak

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​Stats

Base Health decreased from 2026 to 1926
Health Regen decreased from 4.22 to 4.01 per second

Leoric

Divider_Heroes_Leoric_Cropped.png

Abilities

Drain Hope (W)
Damage has been increased from 20% to 25% of target's maximum Health
Healing has been increased from 20% to 25% of Leoric's maximum Health
Healing in Undying form increased from 10% to 12.5% of Leoric's maximum Health

Talents

Level 4

Willing Vessel (W)
Healing increased from 25% to 30% of Leoric's maximum Health
Healing in Undying form increased from 12.5% to 15% of Leoric's maximum Health

Return

Specialist
Medivh

Divider_Hero_Medivh_Crop.png

Stats

Basic Attack damage increased from 65 to 80
Attacks per second increased from 1.0 to 1.11

Abilities

Raven Form (D)
Movement Speed bonus increased from 15% to 20%
Arcane Rift (Q)
Mana cost reduced from 60 to 50
Cast delay decreased from .15 to .06 seconds
Base Damage increased from 182 to 200
Mana refund from hitting a Hero increased from 30 to 50

Talents

Level 1

Mana Adept (Q)
Removed

Level 7

The Master's Touch (Q)
Number of Heroes hit required to complete the quest has been reduced from 35 to 30
Damage bonus upon quest completion decreased from 100 to 75

Level 13

Winds of Celerity (D)
Movement Speed bonus in Raven Form has been decreased from 100% to 50%

Developer Comments: While we are still excitedly waiting to see what competitive teams will be able to do with this unique Hero, we have gathered enough data to see that Medivh could benefit from some strategic buffs. We realize Medivh’s success is typically reliant on how much the rest of his team capitalizes on his abilities - so we have given him a bit more baseline power, which we hope will allow him to make a greater individual impact on a game’s outcome.
Balance update for Wednesday. http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20167050/

Anub getting nerfed back to off-tank status (this is probably a good thing, solo tank Anub isn't the best idea), probably not the last Leo buff we see, and yeah, thats the obvious way to go w/ Medivh, that L1 was mandatory previously in solo queue.
 

Milly79

Member
Yeah, maybe I do need thicker skin. And I do agree, muting everyone is probably the worst idea.

I'm just not sold on OW. It's pretty fun, but not something I could see myself playing for more than a few games a day. I used to be huge into FPS's, but not anymore. :\

And I'd love to TL, however with a new baby and not really knowing when I can sit down without interruptions, that's unlikely at this time.
 

Shakka

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If you want groups, your best bets are A) join the ARAM channel B) join the Amovetv channel C) join the frogpants channel and/or D) post for people to play with in here that are in your region and MMR range.

These channels are NA only channels, correct? I am EU and tried joining them, and both the frogpants and amovetv channel are empty.
 

brian!

Member
Muting is fine, protect urself from bullshit
I only really use chat to feed info and stop bad calls, i dont play hl (or much at all i guess) so ive never really had a slew of awful ppl in my games.
 

kirblar

Member
Yeah, maybe I do need thicker skin. And I do agree, muting everyone is probably the worst idea.

I'm just not sold on OW. It's pretty fun, but not something I could see myself playing for more than a few games a day. I used to be huge into FPS's, but not anymore. :\

And I'd love to TL, however with a new baby and not really knowing when I can sit down without interruptions, that's unlikely at this time.
Join /team league. I've met some cool people already on there doing placements.
 

Zackat

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Yeah, maybe I do need thicker skin. And I do agree, muting everyone is probably the worst idea.

I'm just not sold on OW. It's pretty fun, but not something I could see myself playing for more than a few games a day. I used to be huge into FPS's, but not anymore. :\

And I'd love to TL, however with a new baby and not really knowing when I can sit down without interruptions, that's unlikely at this time.

I just play a couple games of OW a day. It's fun and has become a game I will play for a long time, but it's no MOBA/Fighting Game for me. Doesn't scratch the same itch.

Did you go to CEO kirblar?
 

Milly79

Member
Join /team league. I've met some cool people already on there doing placements.

Will do. I used to just get people through Reddit and ARAM. That was when I could play during the afternoon. It seems I can mostly play before 10a and possibly after 10p.
 

kirblar

Member
I just play a couple games of OW a day. It's fun and has become a game I will play for a long time, but it's no MOBA/Fighting Game for me. Doesn't scratch the same itch.

Did you go to CEO kirblar?
I didn't. I was planning on it, but the very high early pre-Reg's scared me off of it because I knew the venue was going to be sardine city. Definitely gonna try for next year, flights from DC->ORL are super cheap.

OW = the Smash Bros of FPSes. Great casual game, tournaments will need special rules.
 

Zackat

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I didn't. I was planning on it, but the very high early pre-Reg's scared me off of it because I knew the venue was going to be sardine city. Definitely gonna try for next year, flights from DC->ORL are super cheap.

OW = the Smash Bros of FPSes. Great casual game, tournaments will need special rules.

yeah the news that they are gonna be going to a bigger venue got kind of lost in all the SFV news. Maybe a larger hotel? There's some big ones in Orlando.
 

Ketch

Member
Anub getting nerfed back to off-tank status (this is probably a good thing, solo tank Anub isn't the best idea).

Why?

There are already so many off tanks in the game.

Gettin really bored of solo muradin/etc

More tanks need to be just as viable
 

Maledict

Member
Good changes overall, although slightly disappointing - I was hoping for a PTR this week with the next major balance patch on it. ah well, till next week!
 

Ketch

Member
It's not that much of a Nerf either. So ok. I like anub.

Medivhs buffs are also cool. Big buff to his lanning ability which is what I think he really needed. That questing talent is still bad though.

When do these changes go live?
 

Ketch

Member
time to nerf TLV then?


seriousness though, game needs another main tank badly.

think it's actually kind of a small hp nerf anyway.

what's a sardine city?
 

Alavard

Member
I'd like to see a sword and shield tank with a trait and/or abilities based on block charges. We have lots of warriors that regen health either actively or passively, and some with self-shields, but I'd like to see one take the block mechanic further as a way of mitigating damage.
 
Gods be damned if medivh doesn't make you feel like you're awesome at this game I don't know what else could.

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You get a save and you get a save, everyone gets a save.


Diving behind a wall to secure a kill FoW and teleport out like a fricking genius.
 

Alur

Member
Yeah, maybe I do need thicker skin.

Maybe, he says. :D I can't even believe you were playing solo. I know you did for a bit a while back, but 9 times out of 10 you wouldn't step foot in HL (and for a long time QM) solo.

I honestly wouldn't read much into it. It's just like any time we play. Sometimes you're the hammer, sometimes you're the nail. 4 straight game of shitters and ragers, then the next day everything goes smooth. HOTSlyfe the most inconsistent lyfe.

These channels are NA only channels, correct? I am EU and tried joining them, and both the frogpants and amovetv channel are empty.

Yes, unfortunately. Frogpants is Scott Johnson's podcast network and community. He does a HOTS podcast called "Core". Amovetv is a podcast network and community as well. Their HOTS podcast is Into the Nexus.

so ive never really had a slew of awful ppl in my games.

The joys of the master league life.
 

Dreavus

Member
Just play Team League. Was having a conversation w/ someone a few days ago w/ an interesting seperate perspective (the game's clearly not doing well as an "e-sport", apparently killing 3-4 player groups may have hurt more than we realize) but it also drew me to an interesting conclusion: Hero League is a quarantine zone in this game.

Do your placements, then stop. Do Unranked and TL only, and you'll enjoy the game so much more. Because the style of play HL encourages is ultimately kind of naturally toxic, un-fun and goes against what makes the game great.

Interesting. I did notice more complaining in my hero league placement matches than a typical QM where no one talks or really cares what anyone else is doing. I find it amusing that there's a pop up in QM saying "disable allied chat if you want!".

I still have one more match before I place. I kinda wanted to get into improving my rank and stuff this time around, but I could see my will being sapped pretty quickly by the "we lost gg" attitude.
 
My biggest beef is when people will go afk during the draft (ranked draft).

Bans will go to waste if they get picked as the leader. Or they'll pick a character and go afk thinking it'll get locked and the opposing team picks it and it'll default to some character or class that you don't need.
 

Celegus

Member
I've had good luck and good comps in unranked. I play it far more than any other mode now, since I'm usually playing with the wife and she's not real interested in ranks. We went like 8-0 this weekend, and I have more wiggle room in trying heroes I'm not 100% with yet. I really like it, way better than QM.
 

brian!

Member
Yeah i greatly prefer it to qm, qm is still nice for things like mirror matches and trying to worm yourself out of weird situations tho
 
I had the 8 game quest yesterday and wanted to level medivh to 5. It took till game 7 for me to give up and play medivh in quickmatch.
Always had to fill in roles or the times I was perfectly in the middle to get him, the opponents picked him away.

Now I only have Rexxar, Stitches, Butcher and Dehaka at 1 (not counting chogall) but no intention to play any of them.
 
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