Yep, would definitely agree on this. The thing is, I don't want them to increase the butchers damage, that feels like a bad idea. They need to make them different - butcher should be harder to CC when he goes in, and find it easier to stick to people I feel than greymane.
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Yep, would definitely agree on this. The thing is, I don't want them to increase the butchers damage, that feels like a bad idea. They need to make them different - butcher should be harder to CC when he goes in, and find it easier to stick to people I feel than greymane.
Greymane straight up needs a Worgen Form nerf. It currently just does way too much damage given that he has an entire other form capable of poking. Butcher's actually close to fine.
jaundicejuice
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I would fucking love it if they reclassified and reverted Tyrande so that she was more like her Alpha version. The old Shadow Stalk with global vision of the enemy team was so damned fun.
I like your idea of changing the support classification to simply healer and placing Tyrande and Tassadar, as well as future hybrids, under different classifications.
I like your idea of changing the support classification to simply healer and placing Tyrande and Tassadar, as well as future hybrids, under different classifications.
Do I ever make sick plays?
And Kir, I don't see why not? The majority of the tier lists are on Google docs.
I dunno- even before Greymane he was hardly ever seen at the pro level. I still feel like he needs something to put him over (and the massive pointless nerf to Lamb to the Slaughter was utterly unwarranted).
And Greymane needs to lose Executioner, *fast*. That's one of the problems with him now - he hits for 600 a swing at 16 with it, which is mad. Wizened Duellist probably needs a slight nerf as well.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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I hate the very idea of Butcher, he's an all in character with no finesse.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Dreadnaught is on Kayeoh's stream and the both of them are straight shitting on lightknight in their chat.
Dread: Along the lines of you're the only person I i know that goes out of his way to be a dick. Like you go to my stream to shit at me, you tweet at me,...
Kayeoh: Something you're the kind of person everyone just dislikes at first.
Dread: Along the lines of you're the only person I i know that goes out of his way to be a dick. Like you go to my stream to shit at me, you tweet at me,...
Kayeoh: Something you're the kind of person everyone just dislikes at first.
jaundicejuice
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Salty because charge breaks Chrono Trap?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Actually yes. You'd think being able to 2-shot Chromie would be enough to make a well placed Sandglass be rewarded but no just straight runs through it and destroys it in the process.
On a more serious note I just don't like the idea of all in melee, I still haven't played a single game with Butcher.
So you hate him and you haven't even played him? Come on !
He's actually really fun to play.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I've almost always been rather upfront with that. My distaste for him beats getting 500 gold and having to play him.
Dr. Buni
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They could Medivh-y Tyrande and Tassadar, making them specialists. Medivh is clearly a support even if he isn't labeled one. Plus, they already busted the idea that specialists = siege heroes.
ICYMI- my treatise on that exact topic
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vVoUQ9S-ZHEhIaqsVOEpGVcg6NquV7eOfGxv_CLr0_8/editjaundicejuice
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That was a good read, but perhaps a bit too dense for reddit. I think you would need to significantly prune it down to post it on r/hots.
BreezyLimbo
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Ooh
I played with Goku, I think he's #2 on the grand master board
I played with Goku, I think he's #2 on the grand master board
No-one seems to have noticed on Reddit but if you connect to the PTR you can download the new patch and patch notes. Major changes in here.
- Regen globe and healing well changes have gone through
- Minions now deal double damage to structures (winning your lane just became a lot more important!)
- catapults got a major buff
- 26 heroes have talent passes (still reading). Dev comment - this is apart of a massive second look at talents that are not picked to improve them, across all heroes in the game in the long run. so lots of unused talents just got boosted,.
- Gardne terror now does 200% bonus damage to structures
Gul'Dan:
Trait: lifetap. Gul'dan doesn't regen mana, he can lifetap to trade 25% life for mana
Abilities: Q Fel Flame, line of fire that passes through things damaging them all
W - Drain life, 3 second channelled DoT that deals damage and heals Gul'Dan
E - corruption - 3 bursts of damage in a line, causing damage over 6 seconds. Stacks up to three times
Heroes:
Horrify - After a short delay, deal damage and fear everything in an AE circle for 2 seconds
Rain of destruction - 7 second meteor spam over a large area.
Still reading and can't find the web-link!
- Regen globe and healing well changes have gone through
- Minions now deal double damage to structures (winning your lane just became a lot more important!)
- catapults got a major buff
- 26 heroes have talent passes (still reading). Dev comment - this is apart of a massive second look at talents that are not picked to improve them, across all heroes in the game in the long run. so lots of unused talents just got boosted,.
- Gardne terror now does 200% bonus damage to structures
Gul'Dan:
Trait: lifetap. Gul'dan doesn't regen mana, he can lifetap to trade 25% life for mana
Abilities: Q Fel Flame, line of fire that passes through things damaging them all
W - Drain life, 3 second channelled DoT that deals damage and heals Gul'Dan
E - corruption - 3 bursts of damage in a line, causing damage over 6 seconds. Stacks up to three times
Heroes:
Horrify - After a short delay, deal damage and fear everything in an AE circle for 2 seconds
Rain of destruction - 7 second meteor spam over a large area.
Still reading and can't find the web-link!
Copy/Paste somewhere web readable pls!
And wow that sounds huge. No wonder the CMs are on THH tomorrow.
edit: Gul'Dan spotlight just went up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dsqSWKfHBA
And wow that sounds huge. No wonder the CMs are on THH tomorrow.
edit: Gul'Dan spotlight just went up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dsqSWKfHBA
I can't, damn battlenet interface won't let you copy and paste!
Zagara got completely reworked - creep works differently, Banelings work differently, tons of talents changed. One of the biggest reworks I've seen. Mutalisks now last forever!
Azmodan got a second globe questing talent, that triggers off hitting heroes.
Further minor kael nerfs.
Zagara got completely reworked - creep works differently, Banelings work differently, tons of talents changed. One of the biggest reworks I've seen. Mutalisks now last forever!
Azmodan got a second globe questing talent, that triggers off hitting heroes.
Further minor kael nerfs.
Patch notes!
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog...he-storm-ptr-patch-notes-july-5-2016-7-5-2016
So many changes. tyrale changes far less than I anticipated however, and the Zagara changes were completely unexpected (although very welcome).
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog...he-storm-ptr-patch-notes-july-5-2016-7-5-2016
So many changes. tyrale changes far less than I anticipated however, and the Zagara changes were completely unexpected (although very welcome).
Yeah but they moved the increased size to level 16 which makes a *big* difference.
Also Greymane at 20 can basically give someone permanent vuln - any attack by any allied hero on the marked target refreshes the duration. Talk about Cho'Gall killing ability...
It was my auto-pick - I always took the globe talent at 1 when playing her. The increased size on the blizzard makes it so much harder to get away from, I find it very hard to play without it.
Still, options and boosts! Nerfs to Kael will help her as well.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Hrm did they nerf Kael'Thas rebirth talent? You can now only recast from the Phoenixes position and not KT's..
edit-huge azmo nerf?
edit-doesn't replace his damage buff~
edit-huge azmo nerf?
edit-doesn't replace his damage buff~
Wasn't that how it was always supposed to work, like Tour Bus?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
No, it's definitely changed functionality. Allowing the player to cast it around KT meant there'd be instances where you could cause it to go pretty far, with the change it'll only be around the Phoenixes original position
BreezyLimbo
Banned
She lost bolt.
Alot of changes for Zag. I like the creep changes, as Creep Zag is best Zag
OH MAN NYDUS NETWORK ZAG BUFFS
YES
wait
She only has one level 1 talent now?
I think the new implementation is the original intent is what I mean, based on what I'm recalling of the UI.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Maybe? It'd be weird it took them so long to change it though.
No one was picking that talent for ages cause of bolt lol
BreezyLimbo
Banned
jaundicejuice
Member
Gul'Dan is Pugna! Sort of. Well, really only the life drain. The channeled ult is kinda like Crystal Maiden's. I might buy him with gold.
Edit: Minion changes to structure damage sounds fucking awful, buildings are already weak.
What in the actual fuck. Blizzard now has 3 waves as a default!? Jaina wasn't enough of a siege damage monster?
Edit: Minion changes to structure damage sounds fucking awful, buildings are already weak.
What in the actual fuck. Blizzard now has 3 waves as a default!? Jaina wasn't enough of a siege damage monster?
Yeah, it's dumb. I don't want shorter games.
jaundicejuice
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The minion structure damage buff is going to lead to a dramatic up-swing in the winrates of a couple of specialists.
This was their plan all along. They aren't fixing mines, they're turning every other map into it.
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