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Heroes of the Storm |OT2| Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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Dr. Buni
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Arguing about eSports is so silly
I agree
lol bunch of teams were using tyrael exploit in regionals today
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scoobs
Member
What's the exploit? Haven't heard of it yet
Turdburger
Member
Vortex was definitely worse than barrel boys and then complexity for the most part, and the only time they ever actually challenged Maelstrom or TS was the initial Kael'Thas patch when he was first added and everyone was playing double squishy with Jaina/Kael'Thas/Valla etc. Vortex figured out Zeratul + Abathur before the other teams did and wrecked for one day of one tournament.
Zeratul was first picked or banned across all regions for months after that tournament, but was consistently going unpicked before it.
It was definitely a meta thing. Not long after that, Fan was put on Maelstrom
Zeratul was first picked or banned across all regions for months after that tournament, but was consistently going unpicked before it.
It was definitely a meta thing. Not long after that, Fan was put on Maelstrom
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
That's pretty dumb it was apparently used in Powerleague finals, not sure on that since I didn't watch, and a couple teams in the qualifier. MVP Black exploited Zeratul SA bug where you could fly across the map with it, AA bugs,... So long as a bug hasn't been gamebreaking it has usually been employed if it wasn't banned.
if you E and W at the right time it's an extra 700 damage at level 20 even though smite shouldn't do damage with the lvl 1 talent during Archangel's Wrath also has something to do with reciprocate at lvl 7
if you E and W at the right time it's an extra 700 damage at level 20 even though smite shouldn't do damage with the lvl 1 talent during Archangel's Wrath also has something to do with reciprocate at lvl 7
Arguing about ____ is silly says person who doesn't care about ______.
Vortex was sliding in third and fourth and looking good prior to iDream and k1pro being swept up early in that year, or at least that's how I remember it. Maybe they weren't, but they definitely seemed good. They were definitely third or fourth post those two, however. The dates with those finishes on liquidedia include pre KT release as well.
The team Fan played on with Vortex was like a who's who of B and C tier players - Bobbyhankhill, Tazza, Syracuse, Zixz. Even on that roster they finished third in heroes major league season 2 (ahead of Cog and Complexity) which was the last real tournament (and started in April) prior to Fan joining C9M and the RTBC qualifiers starting. There is nothing listed where they finished behind those teams prior to RTBC for a good stretch excepting Titan Arena II which Complexity won and the WCA abomination apparently. The two big tournaments before that Barrelboys and C9V traded off in third place.
Regardless, the point was where Fan goes success follows. We all knew C9V wasn't winning anything, but I think they are shortchanged a bit in NA history given all the issues they faced with roster construction.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Eh I don't think they get shot changed in history. They were a scouting team and that's how they are remembered. They were the dark horses of new patches and that is also remembered.
The tragedy was Mcintyre joining them mere days ahead of getting disbanded.
Before NVT loses fan I'd prefer them getting rid of the buechters and getting a proper Tank and Support player in their stead.
On the other hand the whole org seems like a complete shitfest.
The tragedy was Mcintyre joining them mere days ahead of getting disbanded.
Before NVT loses fan I'd prefer them getting rid of the buechters and getting a proper Tank and Support player in their stead.
On the other hand the whole org seems like a complete shitfest.
If you smite when your passive blows up it does dmg, have to take that talent where you can cast while passive is up
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I think it's funny people on reddit argued that taking even in death and reciprocate alone should be banable because those aren't the meta choices, when that's easily his current best build.
Even in death is insane I've had a game were me and Kerrigan dived 2 at lvl 1 under their towers managed to get no one and I died then I q'd in and got a double kill.
Couple lvls later I died again and hit 2 or 3 and that alone turned the fight in our favour. If you have a 2nd tank to pick up the slack it's so good.
Even in death is insane I've had a game were me and Kerrigan dived 2 at lvl 1 under their towers managed to get no one and I died then I q'd in and got a double kill.
Couple lvls later I died again and hit 2 or 3 and that alone turned the fight in our favour. If you have a 2nd tank to pick up the slack it's so good.
Im not really following the two main arguments about it. Like one side is all you exploited a bug and thus deserve to get the dq, even though other teams used the bug in the same qualifier and they use it overseas w/ impunity, and the other side is all regardless of cheating they would have won so it's ok to do so? Hots community??????
also w/r/t to kenma's classic tweet, and the general discomfort the pro scene has w/ aa's dq, all the witchhunting on reddit will probably come to a head, I mean the fear that pro players have w/ their respective game community is always there but it's really pronounced in hots, where not too many ppl watch in the first place and the remaining that do seem really keen on policing things to their image
also w/r/t to kenma's classic tweet, and the general discomfort the pro scene has w/ aa's dq, all the witchhunting on reddit will probably come to a head, I mean the fear that pro players have w/ their respective game community is always there but it's really pronounced in hots, where not too many ppl watch in the first place and the remaining that do seem really keen on policing things to their image
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Seems like it has a lot to do with them using it against Chu8
actual footage of esl deliberation:
"sir, ppl are complaining in this hots tourney about aa, they think they willfully are using an exploit against this team"
"we do hots tourneys??"
Zuna being sane and saying that if he saw the bug in game he would have paused and asked about it
"sir, ppl are complaining in this hots tourney about aa, they think they willfully are using an exploit against this team"
"we do hots tourneys??"
Zuna being sane and saying that if he saw the bug in game he would have paused and asked about it
i dont really have a fully formed opinion on the situation since the info about it is kind of floating around disjointedly, but if you're going to dq a team for using it, dq the others and pick up the pieces of your tournament instead of dqing the more convenient option.
they should probably just rematch aa and the parties w/ grievances imo, and then tighten their rules since they are pretty selective about which bugs are allowed in a pretty buggy game
they should probably just rematch aa and the parties w/ grievances imo, and then tighten their rules since they are pretty selective about which bugs are allowed in a pretty buggy game
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
that all seems pretty underwhelming on paper, e sounds cool though
trait should probably be baseline passive and aoe w/ smaller numbers
3 second channel...
i guess at the same time they didn't note that there was a cap on energy so maybe that's what's going on, it also kind of sounds like q has some sort of cc component but it's not really clear
trait should probably be baseline passive and aoe w/ smaller numbers
3 second channel...
i guess at the same time they didn't note that there was a cap on energy so maybe that's what's going on, it also kind of sounds like q has some sort of cc component but it's not really clear
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
It's really gonna depend on how fast she's gonna accumulate healing charges. It also makes it sound like solo laning is gonna actively hurt her.
it was based on data mining, a speculative interpretation basically.
it was based on data mining, a speculative interpretation basically.
My thoughts exactly. That was pretty damn close.
Sounds interesting. I assumed res would be more of a "crap we lost a guy in that skirmish" button than something you'd be able to do mid-fight anyway. But when the death timers are long enough to actually matter, the enemy team might just stick around to prevent a res anyway. Curious how it will work out.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Balance Update
slight nerf to worgen form, gust, gathering storm, past and future me, living bomb,
buff to mobious loop, marked for the kill, slowing sands, guldan base health and some talents
huge kerrigan nerfs, BW nerfs seem a bit overkill
Urgh Shade armor got a 10 second CD increase accompanied by skeleton nerfs
Also collision got fixed but tyrael's bug seems to still be there
slight nerf to worgen form, gust, gathering storm, past and future me, living bomb,
buff to mobious loop, marked for the kill, slowing sands, guldan base health and some talents
huge kerrigan nerfs, BW nerfs seem a bit overkill
Urgh Shade armor got a 10 second CD increase accompanied by skeleton nerfs
Also collision got fixed but tyrael's bug seems to still be there
TheSadRanger
Banned
And Artanis gets a freaking health buff 
whyyyyyyyyyyyy...........
whyyyyyyyyyyyy...........
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Srsly why can't we have what OW has.
How about a tooltip, hey you already have 2 ranged dps might want to take a tank, no sonya isn't a tank.
Or, they already have rehgar this morales ban makes little sense.
Or, if you wanna play Nova go play quickmatch don't first pick her.
Though last night I won 2/3 games which was a welcome change of pace.
How about a tooltip, hey you already have 2 ranged dps might want to take a tank, no sonya isn't a tank.
Or, they already have rehgar this morales ban makes little sense.
Or, if you wanna play Nova go play quickmatch don't first pick her.
Though last night I won 2/3 games which was a welcome change of pace.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Eh I'd err on the side of GFE in that exchange but that was like a week ago.
More than anything the Buechter boys have done, I am amazed that the actual management of NVT is allowed to get away with what they do. I guess that's part of having no league or real governing body over HOTS like in League's LCS. The shit they say to people at times should at the least make things very uncomfortable for them in the community, if not worse.
In game related news, this newest patch has finally allowed me to go in QM/unranked/TL with my favorite damage dealers (most of whom are "specialists") and not feel like I'm a notch below the mages or whoever else was FOTM. Feels good man.
In game related news, this newest patch has finally allowed me to go in QM/unranked/TL with my favorite damage dealers (most of whom are "specialists") and not feel like I'm a notch below the mages or whoever else was FOTM. Feels good man.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
when their manager left he pretty much trashed them as an org and he was only with them for a couple days.
Maximus.
Member
Interesting minor changes.
What do you all think about this patch in terms of buffing Gul'dan?
scoobs
Member
I still think hes poo poo butter.
I'm very sad to see my boy Xul getting the long-deserved nerfbat.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Played a game in leaver queue as Xul since I had the Diablo and Specialist quest and played against vikings.
they did a 4-1-1 and not only did their viking player suck anyone want to wager how long it took them to respond to my counterpush?
. How do you not take Jump against Xul and KT as TLV, how...
Warming up to OW playing on my brothers acct. but I don't think I'm going to buy it for myself.
Wait Tempo signed ZP? Well seems like he did the jump at the right moment. Also they lifted the AA DQ, no rematch they are qualified.
they did a 4-1-1 and not only did their viking player suck anyone want to wager how long it took them to respond to my counterpush?
Until I was hammering on their keep walls
Warming up to OW playing on my brothers acct. but I don't think I'm going to buy it for myself.
Wait Tempo signed ZP? Well seems like he did the jump at the right moment. Also they lifted the AA DQ, no rematch they are qualified.
ZP was with Tempo during the final days of streaming HOTS. Prior to the leaderboards coming out, and then the fiasco where he said he guaranteed he'd be on it and then he wasn't or whatever. They signed him and NickHOTS, and both went belly-up due to community flaming them. I guess they kept ZP around though.
He's very popular as an OW caster, apparently, him and his partner. Or at least the most popular group. Good for him.
He's very popular as an OW caster, apparently, him and his partner. Or at least the most popular group. Good for him.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Still an awful esports name though. Heck it wasn'teven taken as an accountname.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The AA drama isn't over now they call a lynch since reciprocate in death was a bug.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Who, AA?
TheSadRanger
Banned
^200k Gul'Dan hero dmg O_O
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