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Heroes of the Storm |OT2| Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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Dice
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Yeah, I'm talking about the difference between good and awesome. I'm also talking about the 99% of the time he's being used by average everyday players on teams they can't really rely on to make plays for them to "follow up" on and would like to have some cool fun with him in the meantime. A character should be fun and interesting to use on all levels, not feel like they are just a niche thing that only reveals its identity at high level play, and plenty of other characters in the game do offer that across-the-board appeal.
That said, I do like his concept so much I'm thinking of picking him up, but 500g more and I could pick up Kael (finally) and Rexxar instead. Hmmmm...
That said, I do like his concept so much I'm thinking of picking him up, but 500g more and I could pick up Kael (finally) and Rexxar instead. Hmmmm...
Yeah, I still feel like Dehaka's design is all over the place.
Brushstalking thematically feels like it should be used for ganking, but he lacks the damage output to use it that way. Instead it gets used mainly for soaking and popping into team fights quickly.
And he's classified as a warrior, but lacks the initiation for a true tank and lacks the damage of a typical bruiser.
Brushstalking thematically feels like it should be used for ganking, but he lacks the damage output to use it that way. Instead it gets used mainly for soaking and popping into team fights quickly.
And he's classified as a warrior, but lacks the initiation for a true tank and lacks the damage of a typical bruiser.
Im not really into the idea that all heroes need to feel accessible and that the way to forward this is to make them all variations of the same thing (i dislike support design in this game for example), but im not really invested in it either way. Like i think itd be really awful to nerf illidan since he requires timing and cd knowledge to be effective but sonya/kerrigan dont. Im one of those guys that think balance should revolve around ppl who know how to use a hero's kit properly though, like im pretty against the idea that muradin needs a buff because he has a lowish winrate and ppl arent building/playing him properly for example
It's partially design transparency too and blizz can improve on that, like it makes sense to me that ppl are all yo dehaka sure has doo doo engage with his tongue but dont go oh where the fuck is zaryas engage shes a warrior can we get a buff here
It's partially design transparency too and blizz can improve on that, like it makes sense to me that ppl are all yo dehaka sure has doo doo engage with his tongue but dont go oh where the fuck is zaryas engage shes a warrior can we get a buff here
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
But then the question is, what is Dehaka? "Backup tank"? That's how I've found the most use in him. Good at clearing waves around, yet able to jump across the map if a fight gets hot somewhere. Regen gives him sustain to hang in an important prolonged situation while someone else takes a minute to hearth. But everything about his character and moves says "stalk and pounce" and that is what he can't do. He's interesting-yet-awkward backup. That's a weird role to carve out compared to someone like Illidan or Muradin.
I dont really know who dehaka is im pretty sure i thought he was a lurker for a couple of months. Gameplaywise hes a disrupter and flanker with peel options and his main goal (like many warriors) is to get ppl to blow cds on him, and he's a splitter that gets stronger with good fog options like on braxis, spiders, and dshire
And as noted b4, he has the best single target cc out of all the warriors if you land it. I guess id compare his cc to tyrande's where you prob wont be too successful if you just shoot it out without talents
And as noted b4, he has the best single target cc out of all the warriors if you land it. I guess id compare his cc to tyrande's where you prob wont be too successful if you just shoot it out without talents
Rexxar is good fun IMO. Everyone has KT, be different. Unless you're doing it for HL and in that case KT would probably get more use even after the nerfs.
Rexxar is actually one of the best for cc chaining since his stun is so easy to land, c9 had a great comp with him a while back w/ tyrande and malf (before e was an assured cc and more of a zonibg tool)
Rexxar is a prtty decent point of comparison w/ d hak since he has a great tool that other warriors dont have in his bear and has to be played accordingly, but again this is more transparent in his design than dehaka probably i guess?
Rexxar is a prtty decent point of comparison w/ d hak since he has a great tool that other warriors dont have in his bear and has to be played accordingly, but again this is more transparent in his design than dehaka probably i guess?
BreezyLimbo
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But youre missing the chance to get the most smug looking portrait in the game if you dont get Kael'thas
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Anyone ever got the you were dropped DC? You'd think they'd let you rejoin w/o going back to desktop.
BreezyLimbo
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KevMan1815
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Had this happen last night. My Internet cut out for a moment and reconnected and I could hear the match and the game said I was dropped. When I clicked to leave it'd give t he option to leave or stay, but if I clicked stay it still wouldn't let me in.
Zarya + Sonya is a pretty fun time.
I feel like they didn't quite nail the sound on Zarya's stuff though. It's just so satisfying in Overwatch when you're marching people down with that warm microwave hum and I don't get the same feeling in hots.
maybe it's just because you can't move and shoot.
I feel like they didn't quite nail the sound on Zarya's stuff though. It's just so satisfying in Overwatch when you're marching people down with that warm microwave hum and I don't get the same feeling in hots.
maybe it's just because you can't move and shoot.
Dice
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That's it. I thought she was super fun but just the nature of her gun makes me wish I could have twin stick controls or something.
That was my second guess.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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heroes of the storm wasn't mentioned once in the activision quarterly report
I mean, other than the fact that the objective isn't zero-sum (one team getting 100% doesn't mean the other team can't get any other value from 0-98% as well), the zerg wave alternates lanes each time, and there's a non-objective boss... sure.
yeah I liked mines too, I miss fighting at the doors the most
it was also the best map for drilling in the idea for newer ppl that the timing of camps can be really beneficial, I think the closest thing now is prob 2nd phase sky temple
I havent played in a couple of months but I expect that the camp situation hasnt really improved
it was also the best map for drilling in the idea for newer ppl that the timing of camps can be really beneficial, I think the closest thing now is prob 2nd phase sky temple
I havent played in a couple of months but I expect that the camp situation hasnt really improved
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
garden is literally mines
No. garden is
Curse and DS should never go away forever. The others can rot.
My man.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Been watching Yuuj's stream, GFE's coach, and he was playing with some guys from PBA and their support was flaming hard in chinese, then even more when he realised Yuuj understood it
Alpha Centauri
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Sorry Breezylimbo that we had to do that to your team on Blackheart.
GG!
Your epic chase on me was pretty hilarious though!
GG!
Your epic chase on me was pretty hilarious though!
BreezyLimbo
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haha no problem
I had picked xul because other people asked me to pick him. Then those other people go and not only don't ban sylvanas, but proceed to pick her fucking over our comp. They banned valla, the only other good tank killer atm.
So then I'm like 'I'll bot, whatever, i don't want to teamwork with you'. They all proceed to bot. At that point I'm like "Fuck this".
scoobs
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Tychus?
Alpha Centauri
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my team banned tychus i think
BreezyLimbo
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Yeah because they had 2 tanks. So Valla is the only other feasible tank killer assassin atm. And our team banned her. Even though me and other people were going 'Ban Sylvanas! Ban Sylvanas!'.
It was like holy shit. I was tilted off the face of the earth after that.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Alarak
I just wish you didn't have to drive the dragon, that shit sucks. nobody wants to be the shitty dragon, it's not fun.
Also, I think Samuro's bladestorm heroic is bad and playing samuro like a stealth assassin is not worth the pick/ban that he sees in every game.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Dragon is awesome, I run for that shit every time since i can't trust people to position correctly to not get hit by the towers or to put the fire down correctly
scoobs
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There are quite a few assassins (and a couple of warriors) that have Giant Killer and other anti-tank talents. Falstad, Raynor, Artanis, Sgt Hammer, Leoric, Lunara, Thrall, and Greymane. All of these guys can melt a tank and would have been good options for you
Familienoberhauptvogel
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So Hide and Lockdown as well Dami and HongCono plan to stay together and form or join new teams from Tempest Storm.
Okay rant time.
I've been looking forward to playing ARAM in brawl mode for ages - since they announced it. Was really excited when it came up as this weeks brawl.
There is no fucking class balance in the brawl, making it flat out worse than a standard custom game. Seriously, do blizzard even PLAY their own game? One team with ENTIRELY melee and no tanks versus a team with Chromie, Azmodan, Stitches and two healers?
In all honestly, I walk away yet again astonished at how fucking awful their brawl system is. Aren't they playing their own game?
I've been looking forward to playing ARAM in brawl mode for ages - since they announced it. Was really excited when it came up as this weeks brawl.
There is no fucking class balance in the brawl, making it flat out worse than a standard custom game. Seriously, do blizzard even PLAY their own game? One team with ENTIRELY melee and no tanks versus a team with Chromie, Azmodan, Stitches and two healers?
In all honestly, I walk away yet again astonished at how fucking awful their brawl system is. Aren't they playing their own game?
scoobs
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