WonderRade
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despite it starting so low, hots has been one of blizz's best managed secrets for a bit now
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Heroes of the Storm |OT2| Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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What are they changing about ranked?
Hero league will be solo only and team league will be groups of 2,3, or 5. Didn't say exactly when the change will happen but I think it sounds way better. Also making diamond a bit more exclusive and some other ways to distribute the player spread throughout the ranks. Also swaps at some point.
Shiiiiit. With my accent, I'd either be the best joke streamer on Twitch or laughed off of the screen on day one. Maybe both.
Could go straight cowboy theme, though. Milly can concur.
Nice. Her/Fan are the main ones I watch now other than Mc.
What do you mean the support? Support for the game? Support for esports? Support in terms of people watching?
Orochinagis
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I am still lagging in this game, why =_=
I need a better ISP because blizzard hates Telmex
I need a better ISP because blizzard hates Telmex
BreezyLimbo
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Maybe after trying unranked they went to Ranked since it's essentially the same thing? You can also see ranked growing to 30% after unranked was introduced.
Maybe, but it should reflect that in the numbers if they are doing both I would guess, or did both. Unless it's like a final tally or something.
I guess I underestimated people's love for watching numbers go up and down. For me, once I'm placed I'd rather avoid it.
Then again, I also prefer QM because I can play who I want while most people here detest it.
I guess I underestimated people's love for watching numbers go up and down. For me, once I'm placed I'd rather avoid it.
Then again, I also prefer QM because I can play who I want while most people here detest it.
BreezyLimbo
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I liked Ranked if only because there is some 'structure' to it.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Is Zagara top tier? Started playing with her today and i'm wrecking it so far 
Is Zagara top tier? Started playing with her today and i'm wrecking it so far
Any strong split pusher (Zagara, Sylvanas, Azmodan) is strong at the lower levels of play because enemy teams just can't cope with them, and you'll build up a massive experience lead. Heck, it works a lot of the time at higher levels...
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Is Zagara top tier? Started playing with her today and i'm wrecking it so far
you have samuro which means quick match which means anyone on the team is top tier
Mostly just content for the game. Maybe the new mode will lead to something interesting eventually, but 3v3 or 1v1 aren't something I'll ever touch. The esports side seems good, but I don't like watching it at all. Sombra will be good, but it's not like she was exactly a secret.
We were originally going to get Malthael a long time ago but they turned him into Leoric. Probably set his development behind by quite a bit.
thekillermuffin
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Fucking great games this morning boys, had a lot of fun stomping with you
4-0 this morning, 3-0 with you, Scoobs! Gotta play some more later today, we're on a win streak
scoobs
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I like his voice lines though. Every time he casts corruption that evil laugh he does makes me so happy
This information should be added to the OP IMO: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofth...or_this_game_this_is/?st=iv731kem&sh=98872558
For new players to Heroes of the Storm, roughly a $30 investment gets you:
More than I would have expected. Plenty to get you going for a long time.
For new players to Heroes of the Storm, roughly a $30 investment gets you:
More than I would have expected. Plenty to get you going for a long time.
scoobs
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I just won a game with the most frustrating Sylvanas teammate of all time. Avoided objectives and team fights in the late game to .... get camps! When he did fight, he used his E to engage instead of to retreat, which was nice. He died 13 times.
How we won is beyond me.
Anyone have a quick summary of the developer chat from Blizzcon? I heard they were reworking Kharazim, Dehaka and others... just curious what the details were and I can't seem to find it anywhere
How we won is beyond me.
Anyone have a quick summary of the developer chat from Blizzcon? I heard they were reworking Kharazim, Dehaka and others... just curious what the details were and I can't seem to find it anywhere
Kharazim's damage trait is getting buffed to make him stickier on enemies, think it also gives a movement speed bonus like Samuro iirc. Also getting mystic allies (like a placeable totem) at level 4 so it's probably a bigger rework. Looks good though! They did also mention changes to Dehaka's talents, especially to make him a more viable solo tank. Artanis Q+E is also going live with his changes!
Nice, they didn't even talk about that in the panels! Man this game just keeps doing everything right!
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Turdburger
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thank fuck lol
Does anybody be else think that Varian Wynns design sort of feels like how the talent system should be for everyone?
I mean, take Kael. I'm second picking, it's infernal shrines, I pick him as a good ranged dps. But then the enemy takes a counter (say, Chromie) and I'm screwed. There's nothing I can do about it. But if I could instead take strong defensive tools instead of taking damage options I'd be better off.
Basically, should the talent system go further and allow you to push the character into areas they normally aren't strong in - at the cost of more damage, or something equivalent for example.
I mean, take Kael. I'm second picking, it's infernal shrines, I pick him as a good ranged dps. But then the enemy takes a counter (say, Chromie) and I'm screwed. There's nothing I can do about it. But if I could instead take strong defensive tools instead of taking damage options I'd be better off.
Basically, should the talent system go further and allow you to push the character into areas they normally aren't strong in - at the cost of more damage, or something equivalent for example.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Is the matchup so bad for KT? He's not completely immobile and your team can still easily counter chromie.
It's just an example to illustrate the point...
(And yes, she does tend too I find. He has a larger than normal hit box so is easy to hit with her shit, low health, and if he gets anywhere near her it's temporal loop --> death time).
Familienoberhauptvogel
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But that's on your support for not cleansing you. I don't know never had issues dealing with chromie.
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I mean I won't lie, as a Wow veteran when I first picked up this game and saw the talent system, I assumed it was basically like wow's trees. Because if not, I figured you would always have tiers where there's a clear winner and none of the other talents are as good. This was way more true back a year ago but they've done a good job with the reworks making talent picks better.
But yes i figured i could choose if I want someone like kt to be a fire dot mage or a defensive frost mage or a burst arcane mage..and then same with all the chars. But then I realized the game wasn't designed that way. Although it's pretty clear now that they're focusing more on a q/w/e type tree system which is sort of similar.
What I like about Varian is he's bringing wow's war stance passive system into his talents. That's what I think could really help the talent picks in this game.
I think it's the wrong direction - if heroes are too generic you just pick the best X in draft- and in that LowKO interview he actually mentioned that the philosophy for the "2017" season releases is to immediately, at the start of design, define their niche to make sure they're not just a "better Thrall" (using Rag as the example)
Dice
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http://www.gosugamers.net/heroesoft...zzcon-reveals-new-hero-reworks-on-the-horizon
Edit: Got Rexxar and Dehaka. No ragrets.
That Kharazim rework looks really nice
Turdburger
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Meh, actions speak louder than words. HOTS has problems with homogenization like that because of its lack of back end depth and fewer overall mechanics. No economy management (no farm prioritization), almost zero importance on lanes (ex: "we need a mid laner that can lane well against hero X!"), and completely static power scaling across a match versus having some heroes that scale better or worse. There are far fewer hero stats in HOTS (armor, str, int, agi, magic resist, atk spd, etc.) that can help create a harder rock/paper/scissor dynamic. The best HOTS has in that regard is certain %HP mechanics like Tychus.
No concept of "wow their team is all physical damage, Winter Wyvern is great here for Cold Embrace's physical dmg immunity."
No concept of "This map generally goes to the lategame so lets pick heroes that excel in the lategame and try to mitigate the damage early. " Remember those old Kael'Thas+Azmodan lategame comps? Those were really cool, but there's so little of that in HOTS now.
Essentially what I'm saying is that there's very little that goes into drafting in HOTS other than "what is the hero with the overall highest power level?" and in competitive play, "what heroes does their team play effectively?"
If the game were a bit deeper and had more mechanics to think about they'd be able to get away with adding that kind of counterplay (the homogenization you mention being afraid of) in the talent tree a little bit because there would still be valid reasons to pick heroes in certain situations that aren't only about their overall power level.
Oh, wow, he's going actual cross-class like Varian? Nice.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'm so hyped for Mystic Allies, one of the reasons monk was my favourite class in D3.
I wonder if they'll do gold rewards if you own the heroes already they are giving away.
I wonder if they'll do gold rewards if you own the heroes already they are giving away.
I really hope so, I'm playing less often cause of Legion.
Sure hope so! They did also mention in the panel that rewards for heroes after 10 will be more often/better and leveling won't take as long. Account level won't cap at 40 either and I believe will be your total hero level of everyone combined. Also a possible gold sink for those of you with too much.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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because I'm fresh out of gold after picking up samuro and I still haven't bought the Tyrael master skin I've been clamoring for forever.
Dice
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Sounds good. Everything after level 7 per character feels multiplied by 100. Too steep of a ramp, even though I get that they want "Master" skins to mean something.
The long awaited Arthelon bitch slaps video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-VxgcXFUZU
I love the counter strike in the second clip. Guess he didn't practice enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-VxgcXFUZU
I love the counter strike in the second clip. Guess he didn't practice enough.
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