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Heroes of the Storm |OT2| Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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Yes, she is the anti-thesis of fun. Whichever designer thought that an off-screen nova was a good idea for a hero needs to never be allowed to design a hero again. Plus thematically she is a total failure as well in every level.
In summary, burn Chromie to the ground.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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She's a dragon, what's fire supposed to do?
BreezyLimbo
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Chromie is super easy to counter
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Familienoberhauptvogel
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Any dive destroys chromie and that's everywhere Chen, Tyrael, Dehaka, Zeratul, Tracer,... all shit on her and the list goes on and on.
BreezyLimbo
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Yup
Even mura and etc can eat her face in. Tracer atleast has mobility and is only really beat by targetted skills
Sure, they can dive in there and get killed by the 4 other players. No problem.
It only works when coordinated, which is why she's so toxic. In uncoordinated play she should not be dying unless she's greedy.
Based on the level you've said you play at, I'm surprised you see anyone killing Chromie. Should be freelo. It sure as hell doesn't happen in Diamond unless her team collapses or she's stupid.
Don't know what you're talking about. Tracer eats random AOE damage like crazy in every game I play. She's constantly at half health.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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You can't simultaneously argue she kills out of nowhere and that she turtles behind the team.
Why would your team be uncoordinated but theirs be coordinated. There's a range of heroes that can flank or dive in uncoordinated play and not end up being punished for it. Not just at my low elo, look at any GM player streaming people at the highest level often don't spot Zeratul or let him do all sorts of shit and get out fine.
And I kill chromie because I just pick Tyrael when I see Chromie and judgment the little rat.
scoobs
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Uhh that's exactly what she does. Sits in the back where you often cant even see her through fog of war (cuz her range is 400 million yards), and she deletes heroes.
Unless you have someone going in with you on Tyrael I don't get how he beats chromie tbh, especially given her range. A support and her time trap should leave you out of position and exposed.
That's part of the problem with her - like hammer, she is easier to play than to play against. Co-ordinated dive is a lot harder to pull off than 'brawl in the middle whilst chromie takes pot shots'.
Re theme, literally nothing about her is dragon like in any way, shape or form. Adding a graphic to one AE does not a dragon make.
That's part of the problem with her - like hammer, she is easier to play than to play against. Co-ordinated dive is a lot harder to pull off than 'brawl in the middle whilst chromie takes pot shots'.
Re theme, literally nothing about her is dragon like in any way, shape or form. Adding a graphic to one AE does not a dragon make.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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So if you know the enemy team's position you know to not tally in a spot and to start moving a bit more erratically.
W, R, E takes out most of her health frum full.
Warcraft Dragons take on human form all the time, many pose as mere mages and don't project their real form at all as such chromie is already more dragony than many warcraft dragons.
I never said they were coordinated. She can freely stand in the back regardless of what they do. You dive in on Tyrael/Chen/whoever, you either have to immediately get out, hope your team followed, or die. As Maledict said, she's much easier to play than to play against.
Yeah, cause that's how team fights work right? Everyone is firing into that Thrall or whoever that rolled into the fight like an idiot from the Chromie team, meanwhile they are also constantly moving and strafing while trying to auto attack him and hit their skillshots.
Nah breh. People clump up like crazy at every level of pub play. The CD is so low and damage is so high on Q that any stray hit takes out 1/4th of a ton of heroes HP. Shit is toxic. Defend it all you want, but it's terrible design and about as fun to play against as sleeping next to someone jackhammering.
I do enjoy the myriad of ways you argue to defend the couple of hills you love to die on. I seriously laugh when reading some of this shit. More dragony than many Warcraft dragons? Based on what we see in HOTS? Seriously?
Familienoberhauptvogel
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I'm not disagreeing that she's easier to play as than against, that's true for a lot of heroes. It's almost as if many of the heroes I've named have ways to immediately get out again.
So now it's an ongoing team fight, I thought she was in the fow and killed out of nowhere? Ok so you can't take long engagements in her sphere of influence that's considerably large, well don't then. You can dive her you can cheese the map, chromie's wave clear sucks, her pve damage sucks you don't have to fight them where it's convenient for them.
the CD and damage is either medium and medium, low and low or medium and high based on her talent choice at 7 and depending on whatever scale you're using.
I love how you always get personal. She's more dragony that Korialstrasz for instance who just assumes a full human identity and no I didn't look this up I read a book.
I really don't understand what makes chromie special she's not difficult to play and she's easy to counter. And this is coming from someone whose MMR range couldn't stop complaining about Nova until she was dumpstered even further.
I am growing to like Braxxis. I really dislike Warhead. It snowballs every time I play it, and since you have to contest or get rocked it just snowballs harder.
At least on Braxxis you can always have that one dude who is annoying af and keeps stealing the beacon when they rotate. It might not change the outcome, but it gives you a chance.
At least on Braxxis you can always have that one dude who is annoying af and keeps stealing the beacon when they rotate. It might not change the outcome, but it gives you a chance.
Dice
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I believe I have never, not even in my most dominating-yet-long games, ever completed one of these "quests" they give you. If you have to play so well you're farming them for XP and keep it rolling till lvl25, I'm not sure what the little bonus for finishing the quest really is to you anymore.
The quests by and large are pretty easy to complete, at least the non-regen globes quests. Gul'dan's Corruption, Varian's two level one quests, Chen's Keg stacking quest, etc are all not too bad.
If you're managing lanes properly after 10, even the regen globes aren't too bad to complete midway through the game though it can sometimes stretch late into the contest.
Whose quests are you struggling with?
If you're managing lanes properly after 10, even the regen globes aren't too bad to complete midway through the game though it can sometimes stretch late into the contest.
Whose quests are you struggling with?
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for real..seeing almost a page dedicated to chromie.. completely irrelevant character in upper level play. i'd much rather face a chromie than a tracer.
BreezyLimbo
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Diamond+ tbh
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Both those heroes are good at pve which probably explains it.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Anyone seen Psalms weird ass Zeratul build? He didn't take wormhole instead went full W build complete with the W vorpal.
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
..sorry? what? I mean anything above gold or qm. why are you throwing random insults?
Proof that you're better than me
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
i guess that was some meta joke to show how toxic low level chat can be
Maybe you right. Passive lyfe isn't the way after all? hhueheuehue
Maybe it meant
gol
Seems more accurate amirite
Weird, I have more luck versus tracer.
But then again, just to re-iterate - this isn't about power for me. I think chromie is fucking stupid in quick match, where the random teams can lead to her being completely op. But in hero league it's not that she wins a lot - it's (again) that she is unfun to play against. A character sitting off-screen throwing spells that can take a third of your life off in one hit each, and an ult which basically one shots you if your support isn't ready with cleanse is dumb design.
Famile, we were talking about the Q by the way not W. Her W is okay, it's the Q that I object to. It's on way too short a cooldown / long range to be fun, and is way too high damage.
Also re dragon, no she isn't dragonlike at all. One thing wow dragons have in common even in human form - when things get scary they turn back into a dragon and are hard to kill. Chromie is one of the most fragile characters in the game, it's utterly dumb that she is suppossed to be a dragon.
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i don't really play qm much so my perspective is more from the draft side. i get that in qm you can have some really weird comps that enable a lot of characters. the thing with a good tracer though is they dont need a team constantly watching out for them, while most chromies depend on their team to cover or peel while also needing above average positional skills. chromie also warps a draft a lot more than a tracer does for the team that picks her, while tracer requires more reaction or can even be a significant last pick. it just always feels easier to go against a chromie than a tracer for me personally.
i dont know, im sure everyone has their own bane characters. for me, chromie doesnt really exist outside of brawls/aram - where i think she's awesome. personally i'd take 5 chromies over a single good leoric.
i dont know, im sure everyone has their own bane characters. for me, chromie doesnt really exist outside of brawls/aram - where i think she's awesome. personally i'd take 5 chromies over a single good leoric.
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assuming youve grabbed the free heroes, the 2-4k heroes are pretty much all high meta and great characters. sometimes i cant believe they give away a char like ETC for 2k gold.
having a good grip on etc/mura/tyrael, malf/bwing/auriel, and falstad/ming/valla/tychus will have you in a good spot. current fun flavor picks are varian/dehaka/samuro/guldan. globals are highly in met now due to map size and mount speed nerf.
oh in terms of gold, every char to level 5 is 500gold, including free rotation ones. Assuming you have the 7 day free stim, you can get a very quick influx of g when starting out. Leveling to 5 takes like 5 or so qm/unranked matches with stim. Since you plan to climb ranked, might as well do unranked to get an idea of draft meta
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Too many teams are going for solo auriel heals at GGWC, while the other team has a malf or BW Auriel has no energy and her team is too low to continue fighting so there's no energy gained to start healing them up.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Dignitas can be fucking gods. They just won a game when they were behind 6 forts to 6% on their core, 35 minutes.
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