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Heroes of the Storm |OT2| Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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9/10 placements for TL.
Games were pretty fun all around, though there were a few where some mood killers found their way on to the team. When your guy who 2nd picked tracer completely blind into the other team starts complaining about the Morales at minute 3 (that he was lucky enough that they picked! They were doing us a favour with that! She's your target, man!) you know you have problems.
Or the classic "two random guys who can't let go of their egos for 2 seconds and instead bicker about everything".
Other then that they were fun. Assemble TL teams from the chat at your own peril!
Games were pretty fun all around, though there were a few where some mood killers found their way on to the team. When your guy who 2nd picked tracer completely blind into the other team starts complaining about the Morales at minute 3 (that he was lucky enough that they picked! They were doing us a favour with that! She's your target, man!) you know you have problems.
Or the classic "two random guys who can't let go of their egos for 2 seconds and instead bicker about everything".
Other then that they were fun. Assemble TL teams from the chat at your own peril!
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
According to glau the illidan in the last game was really just to eat a bunch of CDs so the rest of the team can win the fight afterwards. Which actually happened but would be a weird strat, he also just wanted to play illidan.
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Yeah it made no sense why he'd switch off Dehaka for the last game. I doubt they stay in after the 6 month check either way.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
How does relegation work anyway? They got in once and now have months to improve while getting paid for it, barring roster splits I don't see a reason they'd not make it against the same field as yesterday.
I think B2 have to fight the open winners. Getting in now is huge.
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
these 8 teams will play for 6 months and the bottom 2 will face whatever teams that come up again through qualifiers to keep or lose their spot. correct me if I'm wrong but I believe money is only paid to the teams that stay in for the whole year..?
No you just only get paid if you stay.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
they get a salary which is per month, the salary just adds up to 100k per team if they stay in the league the whole year.
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Ah, I'm surprised it's actually set up as a monthly salary.
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I can only piece together stuff that he has said on his stream. I think the stuff about his family/depression is well known. He currently has just under 900 subs so that plus donations is his living wages - for sure decent enough for streaming. He hadn't tried to go pro again because he hates how his schedule basically becomes 8 hours of scrims a day and then, if he actually wants to stream for fun, he has to again play the same game. This is basically the same reason every streamer gives, as I think Mewn and Glaurung said similar things. But, again like a lot of other people, the format of the system makes it easy to stay at home and get paid to be a high level HL player..so why not.
He was even joking on his stream today that he already regrets making HGC because he really doesn't want to scrim. And you can tell he's joking..but not. What always surprised me though was how he immediately streams after being done playing his HGC games. I'm assuming the players he's with now just understand that they..won't take it as seriously as a team like Dignitas? Basically if they're number 8, does it matter if they still get paid?
Again, from just what he's said over the weeks.
He was even joking on his stream today that he already regrets making HGC because he really doesn't want to scrim. And you can tell he's joking..but not. What always surprised me though was how he immediately streams after being done playing his HGC games. I'm assuming the players he's with now just understand that they..won't take it as seriously as a team like Dignitas? Basically if they're number 8, does it matter if they still get paid?
Again, from just what he's said over the weeks.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
He's more or less been trying all this time. Glau was on a team with Chu for a short time between leaving tempo and joining cog.
Thats fine but it doesnt exactly mean you have to feed lol
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Of course just relaying what he said on stream as that was a peculiar comp. How often do you see Illidan picked with just a Malfurion, no solo tank, no support warrior and no support specialist. Slight tangent but how awesome is it that each of those has multiple options nowadays.
Malf, Illidan, Tychus, Dehaka, Li Ming is not a comp that should work but it totally did.
I thought the comp was aight + they were in general more skilled than the other team at fighting, but i do like how chu's heroes make cool comps, lots of tyrande, medivh, and hammer lol. The way glau is describing what he wants to do w/ illi is how every illi is played, hes basically an offtank
There a great fan illi game from a couple of months ago when he was on nvt, where he had no protection and did the same thing but he was a bit more savvy about it than glau, it was on boe i think?
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This is my rating for na based off of feel
Nvt
Aa
Gfe
No tom
Denial
Gj/dts/chu
But nvt was playing so weird during the quals so i dunno, and it's all pretty much dependent on the practice schedule from now until opening week
There a great fan illi game from a couple of months ago when he was on nvt, where he had no protection and did the same thing but he was a bit more savvy about it than glau, it was on boe i think?
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This is my rating for na based off of feel
Nvt
Aa
Gfe
No tom
Denial
Gj/dts/chu
But nvt was playing so weird during the quals so i dunno, and it's all pretty much dependent on the practice schedule from now until opening week
We know you love that Zuna fam.
I would love to, but all I've ever played is the tutorial so that's probably not going to happen. RIP the dream.
I would love to, but all I've ever played is the tutorial so that's probably not going to happen. RIP the dream.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Found it was against C9 at Dreamhack, but they did have Johanna and Rehgar and were on a much smaller map. Not to mention that I don't think Glau's Illidan is comparable to Fan's.
It was a rather unconventional comp as well though with double mage.
scoobs
Member
I don't think making his spiders always spawn (AKA spamming Q at the ground for free damage) is the way to bring him back to glory. I'd say even further increasing spider jar missile speed, and increasing the range on his abilities by default (remove thing of the deep, replace with something else) is the way to fix him.
Yeah i found that game while trying to look it up, but i didnt review it so i dunno if that was the one...if it had fan on the outside of fights a lot and using w to get out then yeh
Ketch ill play dota, changes look crazy
I think i might be approaching top 100 on hotslogs qm, spamming falstad w/ hunt illidan is ez money
Ketch ill play dota, changes look crazy
I think i might be approaching top 100 on hotslogs qm, spamming falstad w/ hunt illidan is ez money
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Molten core soon fellow stormers
Monkey King Samuro is coming in January. It's just a reference for that market.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Only skimmed through it, Fan died once in a 1v1 with Thrall.
Right. I had forgotten about the skin.
Interesting, didn't know that! I feel a little dumb now.
Mechanically you should be more than adequate enough for it.
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I haven't played Dota 2 in two years so I'd be more than useless if I ever join the train. Although considering my play in HoTS, you won't be able to tell the difference lol.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Hey no hard feelings I feel the same about Mc
His dehaka was pretty good
Hes like overrated if u consider the way ppl are trained to talk about him (good at melee (hes ok), ppl need to build comps around him (no)), but underrated in the grand scheme of chuteam since im prtty sure he is contributing a lot to shotcalling and strategy. Chu is...rated? Like hes underrated in general but his horde overrates him?
Hes like overrated if u consider the way ppl are trained to talk about him (good at melee (hes ok), ppl need to build comps around him (no)), but underrated in the grand scheme of chuteam since im prtty sure he is contributing a lot to shotcalling and strategy. Chu is...rated? Like hes underrated in general but his horde overrates him?
Mc has been more successful both with a super team and without and pigeonholes his team less, but don't think either of them are what people thought they'd be a year, year and a half ago. Probably not what they thought they'd be either.
If there's any constant in western HOTS scene it's NA and EU consistently generating more decent to good players to fill the flex and melee role which can supersede the old ones. In NA it's what, Zuna and Fan who have been consistently good in the scene throughout in those roles? I may be missing someone. Most everyone else has had time off, or lost their luster, or retired completely.
EDIT: Don't think the majority of chu fans overrate him at all. The excitement/hype is how dismissive pros and non-chu fans were of him and his chances, despite his competitive background.
If there's any constant in western HOTS scene it's NA and EU consistently generating more decent to good players to fill the flex and melee role which can supersede the old ones. In NA it's what, Zuna and Fan who have been consistently good in the scene throughout in those roles? I may be missing someone. Most everyone else has had time off, or lost their luster, or retired completely.
EDIT: Don't think the majority of chu fans overrate him at all. The excitement/hype is how dismissive pros and non-chu fans were of him and his chances, despite his competitive background.
Denial at blizzcon was like a 4/5th place na team representing, but i dunno how theyve been scrimming since then, they are kinda like nvt where they have good players but it doesnt look like they care about practice, and w/ nvt it's just easier to cut through other teams and play standard compared to denial
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'm not saying Glau is better than Mc their record alone says otherwise, just that I always thought he's overrated.
I've never really thought of Mc as overrated except for here, since a good bit of us used to follow his stream and we've definitely hyped him up over the past two-ish years. I guess there was some reddit stuff around him getting removed from NVT instead of someone else, though. Glau has always been the far more hyped of the two among the larger esports community, however, and then the tide turned on him sometime last year.
I don't have high hopes for either in the new league, and that has as much to do with their teams as themselves TBH. Pretty sure Mc has found himself in another bad situation. He's on the portion of the team that hasn't been together since forever, aka the non-power broker faction, and the power-broking section hasn't shown they can adapt to current HOTS since like last February. I'm not sure how serious Glau's team is going to take it, but we know he will take it serious.
Just glad they are both getting paid.
I don't have high hopes for either in the new league, and that has as much to do with their teams as themselves TBH. Pretty sure Mc has found himself in another bad situation. He's on the portion of the team that hasn't been together since forever, aka the non-power broker faction, and the power-broking section hasn't shown they can adapt to current HOTS since like last February. I'm not sure how serious Glau's team is going to take it, but we know he will take it serious.
Just glad they are both getting paid.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Not sure how serious Glau will be, seems like he wants to make streaming a priority for now. and chu will def prioritise streaming.
He's a pretty good player. Good publicity for the team, decent chance at a sponsorship I'd guess. Think he's played with Glau before. Two of the players I don't know.
I'll believe it when I see it. Dude lives for competition. I still never see him streaming, which I assume means he's doing it in the daytime. It'd be better for him and HOTS if that's what he did, though. Need more good streamers.
I'll believe it when I see it. Dude lives for competition. I still never see him streaming, which I assume means he's doing it in the daytime. It'd be better for him and HOTS if that's what he did, though. Need more good streamers.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'm going by this which he sent out to subs. He's been streaming almost daily ever since getting kicked from Denial.
Glaurung said:
Cris did something similar, and sent a message to his subs as well.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I wish
Ima prolly knock out and wake early for him
Ill be the first to have him in rank. Gonna grind vs. Ai matches to get him to 5
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