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Heroes of the Storm |OT3| Chromiehounds
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TheSadRanger
Banned
The new map rotation which starts next week was posted on reddit earlier.
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/6anrtl/new_map_rotation_next_week_aumented_to_8_maps/
No BHB, Dragon Shire or GoT sadly
The new map rotation which starts next week was posted on reddit earlier.
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/6anrtl/new_map_rotation_next_week_aumented_to_8_maps/
No BHB, Dragon Shire or GoT sadly
manfestival
Member
anyone else been stuck on singapore servers all night?
No BHB and Garden is a god send. Add in Haunted Mines and you'd have a near perfect map pool outside of Warhead.
Speaking of the map pool, though, my time on my brand new smurf with Overwatch friends and other brand new players has taught me one thing for sure...Towers of Doom is not a map that should've been in this pool for Nexus Challenge. Every game there's 2-3 people on both teams (at least) who don't understand that there is an objective, that it's often active in multiple spots at once, and that you can't directly hit the core like all the other maps sans Hanamura.
It's a fucking nightmare playing this map with new players. Almost every game I've had to explain that you have to right click the altar and channel it. Can't wait til the map pool expands back out again.
Also, 12-2 w/l on Hanamura on my main account. I dig it still.
Speaking of the map pool, though, my time on my brand new smurf with Overwatch friends and other brand new players has taught me one thing for sure...Towers of Doom is not a map that should've been in this pool for Nexus Challenge. Every game there's 2-3 people on both teams (at least) who don't understand that there is an objective, that it's often active in multiple spots at once, and that you can't directly hit the core like all the other maps sans Hanamura.
It's a fucking nightmare playing this map with new players. Almost every game I've had to explain that you have to right click the altar and channel it. Can't wait til the map pool expands back out again.
Also, 12-2 w/l on Hanamura on my main account. I dig it still.
Alex
Member
I've always loved HotS but coming back to it is... not fun when you want to play ranked with a friend. The current Team League you have to play in with any kind of premade has got to be the worst thing I've ever seen in any game Blizz has released.
2.0 is great but I can't enjoy it like this, back to Overwatch.
2.0 is great but I can't enjoy it like this, back to Overwatch.
scoobs
Member
Damn, someone just got smoked in TL.
Alex
Member
Nah, I'm 11-3
I've always done pretty well in HL, but in TL the queues are just fucking enormous and the losses I did have were due to people gaming the system entirely (ie, you can queue Diamonds and Bronze together with no restriction to break MM)
It's really awful design.
scoobs
Member
2's queue times are bad, but if you can find a 3rd they are almost instant. HL used to have a restriction on duo queues being within 1 tier of eachother, never understood why that isn't enforced in TL now.
SuperAndroid17
Member
Why are the losing penalties so awful? I only win 180 points but lose 240 points in Solo Ranked.
I hate this...
I hate this...
MMR / ELO, the more you win this will start to balance till adjustments are a lot subtler. In other words the system right now ranks you as being quite a bit higher in ranking than you deserve, but if you keep a good win ratio the system will aknowledge that you deserve it.
I've played a total of 4 matches with a friend that's a new player, and they were all literally unwinnable. I don't know what kind of MMR shenanigans were happening, but they all played the same. The enemy team is a slow, dumb, mostly unaware of the objective, deathball, and the 3 other players in my team just jump into it as soon as they see it and die. The entirety of the matches were just that, people died early for no reason, the objective came up, and we didn't have the numbers to fight. And even when they didn't care about the objective, the exp lead was so massive that even winning the objective didn't matter.
I do flex a lot when we play as a group because I want a team comp that sort of works at least. The only try hard pick I would have right now is Valla. I worked on my Greymane but it still needs work, to be honest. Malf is getting up there but my win rate with him is still dumpster tier. I know warrior concepts but mechanically it's just not there right now.
Maybe some days I'll politely request if I can play so and so heroes. I used to have fun at playing whatever hero we could need because I like variety but I understand that it doesn't improve skill in the slightest where I'm currently at. I have game fundamentals down more or less I just need to up my game mechanically.
what determines who gets MVP of the match? I thought it was something simple like most XP, damage etc. But on my last Alarak match I had 1 kill, 20 assists, 1 death and nowhere near the top damage/xp. I didn't even get the little % summaries of what I did in the match on the MVP screen, it was just blank lol.
However I did feel like I was dominating, it was just my friend snaking all my kills. So I felt like it made the right choice.
However I did feel like I was dominating, it was just my friend snaking all my kills. So I felt like it made the right choice.
Somebody datamined the formula. The person with less deaths and higher participation in the game gets the MVP 99% of the time.
Ah, the sheer number of assists and almost no deaths probably did it. That also explains why I get it on Rexxar basically every time I play him. Neat.
You can't just post a quote. You have to put something there. I could edit it to put a hidden dot somewhere to ease your pain. I could also have posted the gif in its full glory but it's too big.
Edit: There I fixed it. Now get off my lawn you whippersnapper.
He really is getting away w/ murder w/ his recent nerfs lol
The balance is always in flux because they make adjustments very frequently. It's been relatively good for a while, the issue is that they often let stupid stuff like Malf stick around too long and that the game doesn't have 2 upfront bans to let people get rid of stupid stuff like Malf w/ a free ban.
Wut?
Lucio and Auriel just got nerfed.
Uther, Karazhim, Rehgar, Morales all see regular play! BW the only full healer who doesn't, mostly cause of the output issues, but still sees some play when you can gank a lot.
Dehaka is pretty awesome, yes. Good hero to have in your stable.
scoobs
Member
We have a lot of "they're OK" supports. I wish we had more "lets first pick this" supports. Malf is the standard, I wish all supports would be up to his level of playmaking.
You want a world where everyone's "They're ok!" Having to first pick/ban supports is absolutely terrible when you want all of them to have specific strengths and weaknesses.
I think in general everyone pops around a lot bar whoever is playing the carry or the new hero, but my point was more that when it's time to go to the well to get a W and break the losing streak what hero(es) do you go to? Doubly so if you are solo. I believe you have to find those heroes that really click the most to keep the game from becoming too frustrating at times because they function like a security blanket. You might not necessarily win all those games with said heroes, but you will at least know you did well enough to do so and can enjoy it a little more.
re: fundamentals vs mechanics, I see it as the opposite. I don't think mechanically you're having issues with most heroes, it's decision making/awareness that burns you most often. When to go in, when not to, where to be and how long to be there. That's evidenced most by your struggles with warriors IMO. You can execute the abilities, the movements, stutter step, or whatever on most heroes. It's just plain experience you lack is all. You play several nights a week with players who were higher MMR than you and have logged 3k-4k games at a minimum and you've got a little over 500 on hotdogs. That's a big gap, nothing to hang your head about.
Also, salt in the wound...
Valla is basically your worst hero statistically. 47 games, 38.3% winrate. You don't have another hero with even half that many games with a winrate that low.
Agreed. Give me back my damn activatible D on Brightwing while you're at it.
Yup. It was a stupid decision (multi-class my ass), but Blizz has already acknowledged it and said they're going to change it.
Fixed next Tuesday.
Those are all good points. Regarding Valla, I know my win rate doesn't look good but it was skewed heavily. I was at one point less than 10% win rate with her. If you take only my recent matches it's solidly in the positives ... wait no nevermind. Just filtered it with only Valla and I'm surprised at how much I've lost with her. WTH ! At least I still have a positive win rate (and fun) with Falstad, Naz, Zul'jin and Greymane.
Guess I just don't know where to go from here. Might as well hop on the warrior train again and work on those fundamentals.
So a question on drafting. I'm last picking, I have to play suppport, hjere are the two teams:
Us: Li-Ming / Greymane / Muradin / Zarya
Them: Ragnaros / Murky / Leoric / Kael / Auriel
With Lucio and Malf banned. What's the right support pick here? I went Medic and it didn't work out at all. Partly because our Muradin took Haymaker and spent the entire fight trying to solo Kael, but even so...
Us: Li-Ming / Greymane / Muradin / Zarya
Them: Ragnaros / Murky / Leoric / Kael / Auriel
With Lucio and Malf banned. What's the right support pick here? I went Medic and it didn't work out at all. Partly because our Muradin took Haymaker and spent the entire fight trying to solo Kael, but even so...
I would suggest Uther in a situation like that. Lots of armor for the squishy members of your team, and Divine Shield for Greymane. Morales shouldn't have been a bad pick though, since they didn't have any dive.
What map? Bw would destory here on a map that needs globals, uther would be good too
TheSadRanger
Banned
We all know who's going to dominate the meta soon.
That might be good. Doesn't hurt there are so many good ones at the moment. It'll definitely speed up the learning process on those things. One unorthodox suggestion I'd throw out is maybe delve into one or two with bad wave clear/mercing, something that makes you stick with the team because you can't go it alone. That solves the when to be there for an engage part by itself as you'll always be there.
Regarding your good winrate heroes, check this out.
Go to your hero overview in your hotslogs profile and check out KDA or Takedown to Death Ratio as Barrett has it labeled. The hero you die the least on? Falstad. Then if you go to sitewide average score, filter for Diamond, you're averaging slightly more damage, a good bit more siege, and considerably more soak than your average Diamond level Falstad. tl;dr he's definitely one of your best heroes. Your Zul'jin scores out well too. Obviously take some of that with a grain of salt, but I think those numbers can give you a good baseline on where you are. And you can see by your KDA with other heroes (like Valla) that your death counts are considerably higher.
I must've missed the reference.