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Heroes of the Storm |OT3| Chromiehounds
- Thread starter Nirolak
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ALARAK IS VOICED BY JOHN THE LANCIE?
edit: oops, the caps werent even intended lol. But thats super cool.
Yup. Most/all of the other balance changes are though.
Apparently a bunch of these games don't matter, hence the fun crazy drafts.
Yep, Fnatic are guaranteed to finish 1st place now in Europe so they can piss around however they want... ;-)
Orochinagis
Member
Gul Dan E build is pretty, specially on TFs
Every Tuesday afternoon with the weekend usually announcing the next one
Orochinagis
Member
QM are unbereable right now, lots of new people who dont want to learn but get the match done for the OW event
Battleground Rotations are coming. Going to start at 9 and see how that feels. http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20783380/
Current list:
I don't quite see the point of this when you should be dumpstering BHB, GOT and HM anyway.
Current list:
I don't quite see the point of this when you should be dumpstering BHB, GOT and HM anyway.
Been playing Alarak on two different accounts the past few days in QM. He's a weird one. Four games I absolutely dominated -- melee heavy opponents, of course, and I had a front line. Two games I was totally useless due to the matchups but won anyway because of the team. Four other games I did well enough, or pretty good in general but we lost. Four games I was also useless for the most part due to matchups and we lost outright.
Our last game I was Alarak against Tracer, Zeratul, Probius, Chromie, and Butcher aka the you're never gonna get any combos game. If I thought I had a combo, Butcher silence/charge/both followed up by Chromie and Zeratul. It was rough.
Alarak definitely feels like a fastball only hitter in his current form. He's the hero that if you throw a meatball comp in his zone he's gonna knock it 400+ yards for a homer. But when he gets up against the offspeed stuff (ie: good zoning range/cc and he has no frontline) he's an easy out. I'm not good enough with him to function sans frontline, When he works, though, it's fun, but I think I'm done with that experiment.
Tomb might be the best map they've made. It's up there. Warhead Junction can DIAF though.
Our last game I was Alarak against Tracer, Zeratul, Probius, Chromie, and Butcher aka the you're never gonna get any combos game. If I thought I had a combo, Butcher silence/charge/both followed up by Chromie and Zeratul. It was rough.
Alarak definitely feels like a fastball only hitter in his current form. He's the hero that if you throw a meatball comp in his zone he's gonna knock it 400+ yards for a homer. But when he gets up against the offspeed stuff (ie: good zoning range/cc and he has no frontline) he's an easy out. I'm not good enough with him to function sans frontline, When he works, though, it's fun, but I think I'm done with that experiment.
Tomb might be the best map they've made. It's up there. Warhead Junction can DIAF though.
im removing you from my friends list
3/3 wins baby #1PK
It's nice and quick, even if you lose it's fine. Having to go kill the core can lead to abysmal brawls pretty often.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
The new map rotation which starts next week was posted on reddit earlier.
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/6anrtl/new_map_rotation_next_week_aumented_to_8_maps/
No BHB, Dragon Shire or GoT sadly
No love lost on GoT, but BHB is still my highest winrate map, and Hanamura needs to go back to the drawing board. At least the brawl was fun.
Both Starcraft maps are boring imo, but I actually think Warhead is better because there's no chance of a 10 minute stalemate. It's still too big and bottom tier imo.
Tomb always feels pretty snowbally to me, more so than some of the other maps. This replay shows that fairly well for a higher level game. Imo it only gets worse in qm because people get caught out during the enemy spider phase (partially because the map is small and there's a lot of potential to gank and collapse on people that are out of position), lose their gems and at that point you can't really do much while the team that is ahead just gets turn in after turn in. Rarely see comebacks on that map. Cursed hollow is probably my favorite though I also like BoE quite a bit.
The comeback on Tomb is built into the fact that the objective is so weak. It's hard for the aggressor to win without making a mistake and ceding ground. It was pretty snowbally at the start for sure but I don't feel like it's bad now. Definitely not in the way several of the other maps are, like Braxis and BHB.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Tomb can still be snowbally, if you get the first turn in and then delay the opponent's until lvl 10 they have to cede another turn in if they can't sneak it.
all stealthies are 10k I think. They aren't good pick ups for new players and against new players.
Nova is 7k. But still, the game launched with Zeratul in it, it's pretty ridiculous.
WonderRade
Member
do people dislike hanamura that much? I thought I wouldn't like it, but it's not as bad as GoT or mines to me.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
When did that happen? For as long as I can remember playing she was 10k
Stealth Edit: Nova got dropped to 7k almost precisely a year ago.
Same heh. And im half decent with Zera too, unlike Nova. But he's 10 (actually 11 I think) and im currently in my "take other characters to 10 to learn them" kick so...
If their favorite is Haunted Mines, they are a terrible person.
Zera is incredibly difficult to play. As strong as void prison is, it's kind of a nightmare in pub games, you need to get good with vorpal blade and seeker in the dark to be as effective as you have to be and he struggles against a heavy frontline or shields. Of course you can say that about the other stealthies as well but Valeera at least has the stun to initiate a lockdown or to follow up on other cc. More often than not a famine or feast character imo even though you do have the mobility to jump in, get a pick and get out. And it can be fun to insta-delete a squishie at 20 with rewind.
Edit: Especially his most damaging combo takes some getting used to. Spike at point blank range -> AA(crit) -> reactivate spike -> AA (crit) -> cleave -> AA(crit) -> vorpal -> AA. If you really need to kill a motherfucker and don't need your escape you can even follow up with e into another crit.
Edit 2: Oh weird, vorpal doesn't count as an ability for the crit, I thought that used to be the case. Maybe I'm wrong though.
Edit: Especially his most damaging combo takes some getting used to. Spike at point blank range -> AA(crit) -> reactivate spike -> AA (crit) -> cleave -> AA(crit) -> vorpal -> AA. If you really need to kill a motherfucker and don't need your escape you can even follow up with e into another crit.
Edit 2: Oh weird, vorpal doesn't count as an ability for the crit, I thought that used to be the case. Maybe I'm wrong though.
Zeratul is one of the most mechanically intensive heroes to play. Just like Abathur, he'll probably stay at that cost for a long time.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
You know, Kenma overextends and mispositions on supports let's put him on chromie...
wtf.
wtf.
scoobs
Member
I hate there idea of map rotations. The different maps are the selling point of this game for me, limiting the options makes no sense at all, particularly in quick match. If you're so upset there are a lot of maps then go play Hero League and make it have the same rotation as HGC so you can be a try hard.
Variety is the spice of life.
Variety is the spice of life.
If you're so upset there will be a rotation, write a letter to your
Granted a lot of that centers around the opinion of Haunted Mines, Garden of Terror, and to a lesser extent Blackheart's Bay, but it's still been pretty consistently asked for in AMA's, dev chats, and on reddit in general since even back when BOE/Shrines came into the game.
Those three maps are just not as good as the others. Even redesigned Haunted Mines is still cheeseable. They didn't fix the whole problem, just some of it. Garden has been complained about since the day it came out because of it's size (in this case length from base to base) and how awkward the Terror is compared to the Dragon Knight. Win a team fight on your end of the map? LOL good luck getting to the other side before they are up unless you were full health after the fight, even with level 20 death timers. BHB has been through a couple iterations of people's salt. The OG reason people hated it was the watchtower at the top being a beacon for noobs. In general, though, the complaint in modern HOTS seems to center around the fact that the map is able to be PVE'd only and win and therefore is very counter intuitive for players.
inb4 someone says "ur jes bad on dose maps lulz"
Mines (57.1% 224 games, Garden (55% 273 games), and BHB (56.8% 273 games) are 3 of my best maps. They were all top 5 maps for me til Hanamura/Towers came into the game.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I don't see the issue with map rotation tbh, it's not like these maps are gone forever and I couldn't even tell you which are missing right now.
scoobs
Member
If you're so upset there will be a rotation, write a letter to yourcongressmanBlizzard. It's been overwhelmingly requested.
Granted a lot of that centers around the opinion of Haunted Mines, Garden of Terror, and to a lesser extent Blackheart's Bay, but it's still been pretty consistently asked for in AMA's, dev chats, and on reddit in general since even back when BOE/Shrines came into the game.
Those three maps are just not as good as the others. Even redesigned Haunted Mines is still cheeseable. They didn't fix the whole problem, just some of it. Garden has been complained about since the day it came out because of it's size (in this case length from base to base) and how awkward the Terror is compared to the Dragon Knight. Win a team fight on your end of the map? LOL good luck getting to the other side before they are up unless you were full health after the fight, even with level 20 death timers. BHB has been through a couple iterations of people's salt. The OG reason people hated it was the watchtower at the top being a beacon for noobs. In general, though, the complaint in modern HOTS seems to center around the fact that the map is able to be PVE'd only and win and therefore is very counter intuitive for players.
inb4 someone says "ur jes bad on dose maps lulz"Mines (57.1% 224 games, Garden (55% 273 games), and BHB (56.8% 273 games) are 3 of my best maps. They were all top 5 maps for me til Hanamura/Towers came into the game.
Luckily you will only play one of those 3 maps 23% of the time to you play this game, AKA 1 time a night, or more than likey 0 times a night BECAUSE THERE ARE 13 MAPS. Check out Reddit, it would appear not everyone was asking for this. Just the vocal minority.
I wouldn't mind if the rotation for us plebs is only a week. This one has sucked more and more as it goes on because there are so few in the pool in comparison to what's actually available. A different rotation for Hero League, or even HL following HGC wouldn't hurt my feelings either.
The only two I really truly hate are Warhead Junction and Haunted Mines, so the whole thing isn't going to solve my problems either way.
Check out reddit for the last two years or so prior. Vocal minority would describe what's happening now more than what happened before I do believe. And a big part of this backlash is due to how narrow the pool is this time and how long it's dragged on. We've not had one go more than 2 weeks to my knowledge, and by the time this one changes we'll have done 3 with the current pool.
The only two I really truly hate are Warhead Junction and Haunted Mines, so the whole thing isn't going to solve my problems either way.
Check out reddit for the last two years or so prior. Vocal minority would describe what's happening now more than what happened before I do believe. And a big part of this backlash is due to how narrow the pool is this time and how long it's dragged on. We've not had one go more than 2 weeks to my knowledge, and by the time this one changes we'll have done 3 with the current pool.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Does X Strike remove poison damage? Only reason I could imagine.
HOTS 2.0, same great taste as HOTS 1.0.
Orochinagis
Member
Your team focus on your abathur, rip your match
Your team tends to ignore abathur, rip the match