Officerrob
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Iowa is much more likely to go Trump than Colorado or New Mexico.
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Hillary Clinton Selects Tim Kaine As VP
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Iowa is much more likely to go Trump than Colorado or New Mexico.
God Dayumm
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I hope this is not the sort of people she appoints to the Supreme Court. That's like the whole point of voting for her even if you hate her.
HIGH DEF JEFF
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Where did those slides in the OP come from?
I saw the phrase "Strongly Against Animal Rights" and got sick to my stomach.
So I searched this guys name, animal rights and the only thing I found was some bill to ban cat de-clawing. That seems pretty PRO animal rights to me.
I saw the phrase "Strongly Against Animal Rights" and got sick to my stomach.
So I searched this guys name, animal rights and the only thing I found was some bill to ban cat de-clawing. That seems pretty PRO animal rights to me.
Looking at his On The Issues profile. Apparently the worse thing I can find about him is that he thinks marijuana is a gateway drug. I'll take it.
GoldenEye 007
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Isn't NH usually red?
Flip NM to D, and Iowa and Maine's 2nd to R.
Officerrob
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Not too crazy a scenario either
As much of as a long shot it was, I really was hoping for Warren 
I really don't like this guys position on banking, there needs to be MORE regulations not less. That was the number one thing I saw in Bernie, he was for the working man while Kaine seems more interested in lining the pockets of the already affluent and wealthy fat cats on wall street... which will of course, in turn impact the lower classes most of all. especially minorities.
I really don't like this guys position on banking, there needs to be MORE regulations not less. That was the number one thing I saw in Bernie, he was for the working man while Kaine seems more interested in lining the pockets of the already affluent and wealthy fat cats on wall street... which will of course, in turn impact the lower classes most of all. especially minorities.
jack_package_200
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Trump ain't winning Florida
superdeluxe
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Ok with the pick. Now in November have Stavridis as Sec State
You mean someone who is personally against abortion yet still votes to uphold it?
Vire
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Why's that? We are the same dumbasses who put Rick Scott in office and pushed Bush over the edge.
QuantumZebra
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GiantEnemyGoomba
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I'd say this is the most pessimistic as of now, which would result in a Trump win if I'm not mistaken.
jack_package_200
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1. Obama won Florida both times
2. Trump shat on Latino voters, they won't let that slide
Lot of angry old white folks in Florida though.
Most likely since house votes who to be the next president right? Unless his own party sabotages him.
You Are Viewtiful
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Going by your map, if Trump wins New Hampshire, Nevada or Pennsylvania, he would win.
New Mexico is solid Democrat though.
QuantumZebra
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Yea and Wisconsin is almost certainly in Hillary's pocket judging from state polls (lead is 4-9%).
I just don't see any way Trump can pull this one off.
KNOCKS FURIOUSLY ON WOOD
blackaroni
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Wasn't sure about Kaine initially, but if Hammer approves...I approve.
Tim Kair as VP???
Seriously though, he's a good pick, and here's why:
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I think this is pretty self explanatory, so I'm not going to add to it. Kaine is one of the bether picks soley for this reason.
2. He speaks very good Spanish, and has been to Honduras. He would be able to reach out to the Hispanic community in a way no other person on the ticket has been able to before. It's one thing to talk to the Hispanic community, but another to get on Univision and give an interview in spanish.
3. He's popular with the African American community. That demographic is pretty much locked down already, but every little bit helps.
4. A lot of colleges on both sides of the aisle, including moderate republicans like him. Seriously, it has gotten wierd with the rise of the far right, but working with republicans is something that still needs to, and should happen. As VP is head of the Senate, he could come in and try to broker a deal.
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Pretty self explanatory I think.
6. This guy is more progressive than Biden, and as Hillary is already the most liberal candidate ever. Thus, this will be the most progressive ticket, and most progressive platform in the history of the US, which is a pretty big deal.
7.
So yeah, Kaine's a good choice. Not perfect of course, but nobody is. It will be a very smart, progressive, and experienced ticket that runs again the horrid ticket of Trump/Pence.
Seriously though, he's a good pick, and here's why:
1.
I think this is pretty self explanatory, so I'm not going to add to it. Kaine is one of the bether picks soley for this reason.
2. He speaks very good Spanish, and has been to Honduras. He would be able to reach out to the Hispanic community in a way no other person on the ticket has been able to before. It's one thing to talk to the Hispanic community, but another to get on Univision and give an interview in spanish.
3. He's popular with the African American community. That demographic is pretty much locked down already, but every little bit helps.
4. A lot of colleges on both sides of the aisle, including moderate republicans like him. Seriously, it has gotten wierd with the rise of the far right, but working with republicans is something that still needs to, and should happen. As VP is head of the Senate, he could come in and try to broker a deal.
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Pretty self explanatory I think.
6. This guy is more progressive than Biden, and as Hillary is already the most liberal candidate ever. Thus, this will be the most progressive ticket, and most progressive platform in the history of the US, which is a pretty big deal.
7.
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So yeah, Kaine's a good choice. Not perfect of course, but nobody is. It will be a very smart, progressive, and experienced ticket that runs again the horrid ticket of Trump/Pence.
GiantEnemyGoomba
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More importantly, I'd say this is realistically what the current map would look like while still being a little conservative with the remaining states:
Even with all the anxiety that Trump gives me, it's pretty calming every time I look at this.
Even with all the anxiety that Trump gives me, it's pretty calming every time I look at this.
Stumpokapow
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wow surprise it wasn't julian castro or whatever random names you saw in an nyt puff piece last week!!! i'm so shocked!!! also it wasn't bernie or elizabeth warren!!!! wow!!!! who could have predicted this?!?!?
Jawbreaker
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How is he on foreign policy? A cursory glance seems to indicate he's not great, but of course, I haven't done any in-depth research.
Dubbedinenglish
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He personally is against abortion but is pro-choice.
Alright, so Wisconsin seems to be tipping over to the red?
What can I do to help prevent this?
Velcro Fly
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it is still early so states that are polling somewhat close will always show up as battleground but she has been ahead there including a poll last week that included Gary Johnson and Jill Stein as choices
It is incredibly difficult. He has to take something like Florida and Ohio and hold onto Virginia and Nevada both. His path is perilously tiny, which actually compounds his problem even if polling wasn't already against him. It actually moves the odds even further toward Hillary.
GiantEnemyGoomba
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It's still very likely to go to Hillary but I was being pretty conservative with that map.
Still though, go to the campaign's website and sign up to volunteer if you wanna help. Considering it's Donald that's on the side, no amount of helpers would be too much.
Aaronology
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What's next for Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA), politically? (C-SPAN)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPUVo12m2ag
Tim Kaine On Meet The Press (Full Interview) | Meet The Press | NBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1hElMRQfx0
Senator Tim Kaine On Being Vetted For Hillary Clinton's Vice Presidential Pick | MTP Daily | MSNBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8t-EEcjGUU
Senator Responds To Vice President Talk: 'I Like My Job' | Morning Joe | MSNBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkddlHs4v2M
Sen. Tim Kaine Gives Emotional, Powerful Speech on Gun Violence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nczha-aDmN4
Feature Interview - Senator Tim Kaine (2014)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmjSXGpRSBM
Kaine is likable as heck and comes off far more personable than the other three WH candidates and as knowledgeable as Clinton. I have a suspicion that over time some people who were sour with his pick might come to prefer him over Hillary.
Velcro Fly
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He basically needs either all of Ohio/Florida/Pennsylvania
or he needs two of those (most likely Ohio and Florida) and to win a vast majority of the swing states like NH, Iowa, Colorado etc. Even with Ohio and Pennsylvania he needs to basically win Colorado, NH, Nevada, Iowa to get it to 269-269 so the House can elect him. He basically needs Florida 100% or the task almost becomes impossible.
I'm pretty sure there is a neat graphic on this posted somewhere but I did this mostly fooling with the electoral map.
or he needs two of those (most likely Ohio and Florida) and to win a vast majority of the swing states like NH, Iowa, Colorado etc. Even with Ohio and Pennsylvania he needs to basically win Colorado, NH, Nevada, Iowa to get it to 269-269 so the House can elect him. He basically needs Florida 100% or the task almost becomes impossible.
I'm pretty sure there is a neat graphic on this posted somewhere but I did this mostly fooling with the electoral map.
I'm a little worried, but I live out in the country. Trump yard signs and bumper stickers everywhere...
Go door to door and tell those people the election is over. They arrested Hilary and Obama for treason.
Do you mean the Seante?
Kaine is nothing like this. His entire career has been focused on helping the common man, from his missionary work in Honduras to his time as mayor of Richmond. The bank thing is a weird look, but the fact is all banks aren't the Wall Street banks that caused the Great Recession.As much of as a long shot it was, I really was hoping for Warren
I really don't like this guys position on banking, there needs to be MORE regulations not less. That was the number one thing I saw in Bernie, he was for the working man while Kaine seems more interested in lining the pockets of the already affluent and wealthy fat cats on wall street... which will of course, in turn impact the lower classes most of all. especially minorities.
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Colorado and Nevada are demographically problematic for Trump. Nevada, because of the high proportion of Latino voters, and Colorado because of the high levels of college educated whites. His Latino numbers are just disgusting, and he is losing college educated whites. (Obama won both Colorado and Nevada while losing college graduates in both states). Hillary is also winning White women nationally (and in most swing states). Obama lost this group in 2012 (and 2008).
Feingold is on the ballot in Wisconsin. I cannot imagine there are many (if any) Trump/Feingold voters. The only republican who has ever lead in an opinion poll in Wisconsin was Kasich.
Florida is also demographically problematic for Trump. There have been something like 1.7 newly registered Latinos in the state. Hillary also doesn't share the same weakness Obama had with transplanted Northern Whites. (He did fine among them, but Hillary will do better for gross and obvious reasons).
Kaine must have moved her polling enough in Virginia that she thought it was a better pick than Vilsack in Iowa. Iowa and New Hampshire are Trump's best bets. But, if we take Virginia and Colorado off the table.....good luck.
Feingold is on the ballot in Wisconsin. I cannot imagine there are many (if any) Trump/Feingold voters. The only republican who has ever lead in an opinion poll in Wisconsin was Kasich.
Florida is also demographically problematic for Trump. There have been something like 1.7 newly registered Latinos in the state. Hillary also doesn't share the same weakness Obama had with transplanted Northern Whites. (He did fine among them, but Hillary will do better for gross and obvious reasons).
Kaine must have moved her polling enough in Virginia that she thought it was a better pick than Vilsack in Iowa. Iowa and New Hampshire are Trump's best bets. But, if we take Virginia and Colorado off the table.....good luck.
Aaronology
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His position on banking? You really should have finished reading that thread.As much of as a long shot it was, I really was hoping for Warren
I really don't like this guys position on banking, there needs to be MORE regulations not less. That was the number one thing I saw in Bernie, he was for the working man while Kaine seems more interested in lining the pockets of the already affluent and wealthy fat cats on wall street... which will of course, in turn impact the lower classes most of all. especially minorities.
Officerrob
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Are we to believe those angry old white people sat at home and didn't go out to vote against the black "Muslim" the last two cycles?
This is me as well. It's brutal.
Oh god Veep is coming true
User 463088
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I feel you both. I'm in Ohio too in a very red district.
Here's the 2012 results though. Columbus, Cleveland and Cincinnati will save us.
computers putin'
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Continually seeing posts that say both parties are bad really makes me feel a perfect storm that gets Trump elected is brewing, and that scares the the shit out of me. As far as I'm concerned Hillary could've nominated a tree stump as VP and I'd still vote for her, just because the alternative is that awful.
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SolidSnakeUS
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I wonder if there will be a "Louie for CK"?
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