Philip Hammond (Britain) seems pretty happy. I think he was just excited to be involved. Probably made the tea.
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Historic nuclear deal reached between Iran and world powers
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Philip Hammond (Britain) seems pretty happy. I think he was just excited to be involved. Probably made the tea.
benjipwns
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You know what other British fellow was pretty happy after making a deal with somebody.
NYCmetsfan
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Jesus the amount of posts about Israel in here.
BlackLagoon
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The current Iranian administration has invested a lot of political capital in ending the sanctions. If everything goes as it should, they've almost certainly ensured their reelection not to mention numerous tangle improvements in the quality of life for their citizens and the country's general future economic prospects.
It worked for Osirak before, but obviously it should only be considered as the very last option. I could see something similar happening where Israel gets "carte blanche" to fly over / refuel over / potentially even land in Saudi Arabia for a similar mission.
In the end I'm for whatever option that stops a theological regime with little regard for innocent lives from acquiring nuclear weapons.
God I hope Iran's twitter keeps the jokes up as Netanyahu starts flinging shit for the next year at Iran. I do wonder how crazy Netanyahu is, we are going to find out.
Funky Papa
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It's almost as if it was the nation that was constantly threatening with going to war and creating a permanent shitstorm over Iran's nuclear programme.
eBay Huckster
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I'm glad we agree that the Saudis need to be stopped.
They can, they'll just need to wrangle 13 Democratic Senators in order to actually stop it - and more than 33 are already on record as supporting the President's stance.
m_shortpants
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Good, good.
Iran is an ally we should have in the middle East. They have every reason to not trust us though.
Iran is an ally we should have in the middle East. They have every reason to not trust us though.
The Spoony Hou
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Finally, took long enough.
And anything that pisses off Netanyahu is good in my book.
And anything that pisses off Netanyahu is good in my book.
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To free 100b for Iran is surely going to help stabilize the Middle East /s. This deal is good except this money shouldn't have been freed until Iran gave up on supporting Alassad by all means.
NYCmetsfan
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They're never was a real threat.
benjipwns
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you kinda wonder what level of hubris a person has to think he can make a deal like this for an entire country by himself
They also need 2/3 of the house
Philip Hammond (Britain) seems pretty happy. I think he was just excited to be involved. Probably made the tea.
LOL, damn you, almost made me spit out my sweet sweet cappuccino
NYCmetsfan
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It's almost as if congress didn't already have him this power a few months ago benji
eBay Huckster
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I find both the Iranian regime and the Saudi monarchy equally revolting and I'd like to see both have less regional and international influence. Hopefully through the slow move away from oil we can slowly distance ourselves from the Sauds so we don't need them as an ally any longer.
One thing I'll agree with most posters here with - this should be good for the average Iranian who has had it bad under the sanctions.
This is awesome news, a big step towards reconciliation and peace on a grander scale. I agree that Iran would be a much more powerful ally for the West than shitty allies like Saudi Arabia and Israel.
I just hope that the Republicans don't find a way to fuck this up.
Also, some posters on here are pretty ridiculous, I'm gonna go ahead and assume most, if not all, are Israeli supporters. You guys are taking talking points straight out of the Fox News/Republican propaganda playbook, you should be ashamed.
I just hope that the Republicans don't find a way to fuck this up.
Also, some posters on here are pretty ridiculous, I'm gonna go ahead and assume most, if not all, are Israeli supporters. You guys are taking talking points straight out of the Fox News/Republican propaganda playbook, you should be ashamed.
benjipwns
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This kind of thing is why we need a tough negotiator like Trump in the White House. He'd make Iran build our nuclear missiles.
I dare say republicans are going to love Obama 20 years down the road.
Iran's potential is huge, a highly educated population too, very very happy. They are going to be an economic force and the Saudi's don't like that. We can't have a country next door where women can drive and have businesses.
Iran's potential is huge, a highly educated population too, very very happy. They are going to be an economic force and the Saudi's don't like that. We can't have a country next door where women can drive and have businesses.
1.21Gigawatts
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Funky Papa
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Bibi didn't have the balls to go against Iran, but that didn't stop him from lobbying the fuck out so America would do his dirty work instead. Luckily enough, Obama wasn't up to that shit. Israel is Iran's main adversary and has become the disruptive force in this process, to the point of its administration making an ass of themselves. They've made their best to poison the well while beating the war drums through this whole time. I mean, it's not like Israel spied on the negotiations and leaked its contents to the GOP in order to undermine President Obama and the White House.
The callouts are more than warranted.
Funky Papa
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$100bn in Iranian assets around the world will be unfrozen, for starters.
I find a bit odd that most outlets are concentrating on what Iran will cede and nearly ignoring what is getting, which is no small potatoes either.
This is going to give Iran's economy a massive boost, providing it keeps its shit together and avoids curruption and mismanagement. The country has a significant industrial base and a well educated population, but also important issues with its infrastructure and a huge brain drain.
johnnyfive
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He also makes Clinton's time as Secretary of State look like a complete waste. I suppose you could argue she laid some groundwork, but I think it's a sign of things to come with her as President.
gutter_trash
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Iran fights against ISIS while Saudi Arabia is reluctant to do anything because Saudi Arabia actually wants Assad removed.
So it's a no brainier to have Iran help with the fight against ISIS
Saudi Arabia don't care, they care more about bomibng Yemen than ISIS
So it's a no brainier to have Iran help with the fight against ISIS
Saudi Arabia don't care, they care more about bomibng Yemen than ISIS
The irony is Bibi completely freaking out probably makes it an easier sell for enough Iran hardliners to accept the deal.
It's a tough, fair deal for both sides from all I've read on it. Seems like a pretty good agreement.
johnnyfive
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Fixed.
Kenshin001
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Iran is good not to have as an enemy but they are not good as an ally. They are a repressive theocratic regime which imprison and torture thousands of their own citizens and are currently supporting the Syrian government dropping barrel bombs on its citizens and murdering thousands of people. People rightfully say the US was wrong to support Saddam Hussein's regime and the West should not support the Saudis, that supporting repressive regimes only fuels resentment and extremism. It is just as wrong to support Iran.
gutter_trash
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the saddest part is that Israel's sides with Saudi Arabia because both don't want Iran to gain influence
add Turkey. Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia don't want Iran to gain influence so all three are okay at letting ISIS fester in Syria and Iraq
johnnyfive
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By your reasoning, it would be wrong to support the US or any country that has had bad past leadership.
Stupid.
Antiwhippy
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I didn't know that we've reached a nuclear inspection deal with isreal.
Iran stand with Alassas who killed 1000s of innocents since the beginning of the rebellion against him. So yeah his statement is about Iran and it's correct.
ISIS committed multiple terrorist attacks in Saudi Arabia in the last month and Saudi is involved with the international coalition against ISIS so I don't see where is your statement coming from. there're tons of other options in Syria to support instead of them. Actually ISIS is still fighting rebellions in Syria so I don't see who would Saudi support them against the much greater number and important areas the rebellions have.
Antiwhippy
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Oh I know that. I just find it funny how it can apply to isreal and yet there is such a weird double standard there.
m_shortpants
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The US has supported many repressive regimes in the past. And we continue to do so till this day. I'd rather Iran than Saudi.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Great, let's hand over billions of dollars to the World's leading sponsor of terrorism. That should work out well.
Looks like congratulations have already been received from Assad, who's ruthless government is propped up entirely by Iran (including a $1billion lifeline just last week)
Meanwhile the Iranian people suffer under the oppressive regime and atheists, gays, journalists et al, wonder how such liberal bastions as the US can throw them under the fucking bus.
I'd rather neither.
Looks like congratulations have already been received from Assad, who's ruthless government is propped up entirely by Iran (including a $1billion lifeline just last week)
Meanwhile the Iranian people suffer under the oppressive regime and atheists, gays, journalists et al, wonder how such liberal bastions as the US can throw them under the fucking bus.
I'd rather neither.
Tallshortman
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Iran is still ruled by the same supreme leader. Their generally policy of expanding their influence in Arab and Sunni countries has bit changed.
There's only so much rouhani can do. I agree leadership changes can lead to different approaches but the basic underlying ruler of Iran hasn't changed.
Both countries do shit practices all over the ME. The ME right now is just a mess with the fight between Iran VS Isreal VS Turkey, Saudi Arabia & Qatar.
I will take a murder like Assad over his enemies, which consist in other equally murderous, yet X1000 times as bigoted ISIS-like guerrillas any day of the week. What about you?
As for stability in the Middle East, perhaps we should be focusing in stopping Saudi Arabia's current, very real Yemeni war rather than focusing on hypotetic, imaginary future Iranian conflicts.
But it seems that the Persian boogeyman is far too scary (and useful) for keeping many sectarian conflicts alive.
Funky Papa
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Good grief. This isn't even turning Iran into an ally or "supporting" it. That is not going to happen any time soon. America and Iran are going to remain adversaries for a good while. This is about fostering good relations and helping the country to steer into more agreeable positions, so maybe one day that can finally happen.
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