Platinum get. Amusingly my last trophy to unlock the platinum was to kill a watcher from above.
Thanks Berserker976, that helps a lot
Ha, that was mine too. I somehow managed to spear two of them at once too.
Platinum get. Amusingly my last trophy to unlock the platinum was to kill a watcher from above.
Thanks Berserker976, that helps a lot
I'm having withdrawals
I am tempted to restart the game on very hard while I wait on P5
For me it's similar to the early AssCreed games (the Ezio trilogy I guess), when the world building carried out through the various lore dumps and cutscenes was enough to make it an interesting experience. As long as they don't fuck it up like Ubisoft and have the third game be about playing as a Guerilla Games beta tester in a VR simulation and kill off Aloy by chopping her into pieces to be studied and dissected, they're probably fine. lolAfter letting the story simmer in my head I have come to the conclusion that the story would not have worked in a focused linear game. For a long time I thought that open world games could never have strokes that could match focused linear games (expect maybe Red Dead) because of the nature of open world games. Now I think that the problem is that devs write stories to throw into their worlds indead of crating stories for their worlds.
Horizon's story and the world itself build off of each other very well. So well that taking the open world out of it would lessen the impact of the story. In most other open world games the story feels like it was thrown in at the last second and feels very detached from the world itself.
Now that's smart way of putting itNow I think that the problem is that devs write stories to throw into their worlds indead of crating stories for their worlds.
Nah I'd rather she stay the former. We need more upbeat, sarcastic, hopeful and strong protagonistAfter all that work and hades lives...fuck.
I'm conflicted about Aloy staying a hopeful character or getting to see a jaded punished Aloy (samurai jack style) in the sequels.
Varl is definitely gonna go down there. The cultural ramifications for the Nora could be something. Will they rebel, or will they worship the technology that is the All-Mother?I wonder what will they do with the knowledge that Aloy has about the old ones, her initial reaction was to play along and keep the information close to her chest rather than spit everything in everyones faces. It works kinda like a superhero hiding her superpowers.
Still sad that nobody knows who Elizabeth was and did for mankind.
She might actually share the info but I can imagine how devastating could be cor the Nora and their way of life.
Hes a trillionaire. Hes still alive imo, kept cloning himself over and over again or something that would make him live forever, or at least his intelect. Theres no way they would create such an evil fuck and get rid of him like that without even showing him for realI'm surprised at how deep some of the character motivations are in this game. Meaning, they aren't just who they are at face value. There's some depth there. Some of them want the right thing for the wrong reasons and vise versa. I'm not saying characters like this are unheard of in games, but it's still nice and surprising to see.
Also, I wonder what Ted Faro spent the remainder of his life doing. Wonder if he did any other damage we don't know of, or anything of importance at all.
Probably been discussed but - all of Apollo's data was put in a capsulated DNA (not sure what the exact expression is) because it was the only way to get all of that large data transferred into.
Whatre the chances of all that data being stored inside Aloy (or something of that nature) when GAIA created her? Maybe GAIA made a backup of Apollo and hid it in case of emergency?
(is such a thing even possible? Aliens.gif)
Note Sylens last speech to Aloy where he notes he'd do it all again he notes, just with better precautions.Sylen's main motivation seems to be an appetite for knowledge - although no apollo, HADES could teach him a lot of fundamentals. Hence him not wanting to kill it. But presumably GAIA would have similar information so why not work with Aloy to fix up GAIA, try to stop the derangement and still learn a lot?
I expect he'll be blind/stupid enough to think he can control HADES to get information without allowing it to get loose. Which of course it will.
And Aloy overrode the cauldrons - so does that mean they are purged of Hephaestus(?) control and will produce 'clean' robots again, or no robots and they'll become an endangered species
#TedFaroDidNothingWrong
#ApolloWasAmistake
#TedFaroDidNothingWrong
Whoever overrode GAIA was only recent, right? Like 19 years ago - trigger meltdown and Aloy's birth. So it would have to be someone from the 'modern' times. Possibly by accident, otherwise how would they have the knowledge? I'm really curious what they do with that storyline.
Also I want to know more about how the first humans managed out in the wilds without apollo support. The logs all make them sound like adolescent brats being cooped up and then let free, but I assume that was just the last of them when they ran out of food?
Why wouldn't they be allowed back in - the world should be safe with no machines. And why would they run out of food - a system designed to bury a new human race should have considered how to have enough food.
Haha what if rico is a clone of Ted? Both seem to fuck up at a catastrophic level.
One thing, which I'm not sure was explained. There's a point at which someone (probably Aloy) mentions that it's strange that ultra aggressive/weaponised machinesl like the ThunderJaw and Ravager are being created. I finished all of the Cauldrons and Aloy extrapolates about the fact that Hephaestus is essentially marching to the beat of it's own drum. Could there be more to this?
We know that the sub-components of GAIA become independent, but are there any theories as to why Hephaestus is creating weaponised machines?
General view is the AI - freed from GAIA's control - is responded no to machines destroying robots.One thing, which I'm not sure was explained. There's a point at which someone (probably Aloy) mentions that it's strange that ultra aggressive/weaponised machinesl like the ThunderJaw and Ravager are being created. I finished all of the Cauldrons and Aloy extrapolates about the fact that Hephaestus is essentially marching to the beat of it's own drum. Could there be more to this?
We know that the sub-components of GAIA become independent, but are there any theories as to why Hephaestus is creating weaponised machines?
Security measure against humans, which have been harvesting and hunting machines.I would like his explained as well. If the machines' purpose were to help remake the world, why in the hell do they need lasers?
#TedFaroDidNothingWrong
#ApolloWasAmistake
Nope, he just made a series of robots with an AI that are capable to reproduce ithemselves and needs biomass as fuel to do so.
I mean, how in the fuck you're in the drawing board and think "yep, this will surely not cause these robots to use nature, animals and even ourselves as a fuel"?
Honestly, I felt it was a little dumb (on an otherwise great story) that such robots were even greenlighted.
I would like his explained as well. If the machines' purpose were to help remake the world, why in the hell do they need lasers?
That is exactly how the derangement started. Hephaestus just wants his machines to do their job. Humans are threatening their ability to do the job--> give them defensive capabilities. Gaia was the one keeping them all running within the parameters needed to make a safe, clean place for humanity. She was the engineer in the boiler room, turning dials and pulling levers to keep the machine humming along. The question is how capable are all of the sub routines now that they are unshackled from GAIA. Though HADES is competent and manipulative, he is still trying to accomplish what he was programmed to do just unchecked.Maybe they are repurposed equipment? Like the stormbird lightning gun is actually designed to create ozone at high altitudes?
But the fact they attack humans at all suggests the derangement is linked to Hephaestus splitting off. The people in the world only ever mention the animals becoming aggressive - I don't think they talk about new types appearing?
At the very least, Sawtooths are specifically mentioned as being a new machine. Probably safe to assume Thunderjaws and Stalkers are too, as I can't think what their ecological function would be.That is exactly how the derangement started. Hephaestus just wants his machines to do their job. Humans are threatening their ability to do the job--> give them defensive capabilities. Gaia was the one keeping them all running within the parameters needed to make a safe, clean place for humanity. She was the engineer in the boiler room, turning dials and pulling levers to keep the machine humming along. The question is how capable are all of the sub routines now that they are unshackled from GAIA. Though HADES is competent and manipulative, he is still trying to accomplish what he was programmed to do just unchecked.
There is supposedly more dangerous machines out to the west. That's all we know so far about that. When people explained the derangement they made it seem like there were new machines that came from time to time though, likely machines we are fighting right now.
Thing about it is for a Rost DLC to work - they would have to make new areas, if I'm not mistaken - he went to The Forbidden West to seek revenge. So GG would have to make new landscapes, new enemies, and other things. Not sure if they'll go that way for now because it would take a lot of time/budget? But you never know.Just beat the game, the first platinum I've ever gotten and I did it in a single play through.
I'd like to see Rost's story as stand alone DLC, the narrative given in-game lends itself very well to it.
Lot of different directions they can go with a sequel, should be very interesting.
Thing about it is for a Rost DLC to work - they would have to make new areas, if I'm not mistaken - he went to The Forbidden West to seek revenge. So GG would have to make new landscapes, new enemies, and other things. Not sure if they'll go that way for now because it would take a lot of time/budget? But you never know.
Platinumed the game yesterday. Slightly gutted Nil didn't turn up in the final battle, after I refused to kill him (never felt so bad for not killing someone, btw). I think he would make for some interesting DLC. Maybe a prequel about his time at Sunstone Rock.
Platinumed the game yesterday. Slightly gutted Nil didn't turn up in the final battle, after I refused to kill him (never felt so bad for not killing someone, btw). I think he would make for some interesting DLC. Maybe a prequel about his time at Sunstone Rock.
Maybe they are repurposed equipment? Like the stormbird lightning gun is actually designed to create ozone at high altitudes?
But the fact they attack humans at all suggests the derangement is linked to Hephaestus splitting off. The people in the world only ever mention the animals becoming aggressive - I don't think they talk about new types appearing?
He does, you must have just missed him. I was able to talk to him pre-fight and even ran past him at one point in all the chaos.
I wonder what that would mean for a sequel. Is it possible to have new types of machines? They all served a purpose. Maybe if HESPHAETUS senses a new threat from what Sylens & HADES does?
I wonder what that would mean for a sequel. Is it possible to have new types of machines? They all served a purpose. Maybe if HESPHAETUS senses a new threat from what Sylens & HADES does?
Hmmm, I saw Nil during the fight, but not before. I didn't see Vanasha at all, which is who I really wanted by my side.
At the very least, Sawtooths are specifically mentioned as being a new machine. Probably safe to assume Thunderjaws and Stalkers are too, as I can't think what their ecological function would be.
I think Faro's decision might have had some nuance if he didn't murder everyone before doing it. At that point, he's a billionaire fuckhead who thinks he's better than everyone and that he is worth more than the "normals".Even if you agree with his intent, unilaterally sabotaging a sophisticated system that represents the very future of life itself is a pretty fucked up thing to do. That wasn't his choice to make, and he made his choice without any regard for the consequences.