Pretty much my thoughts too. However, I'd say the film differentiates itself from the movies that influenced it with its writing and characters. It'll never out-splatter Braindead or out-demon Evil Dead 2, but the sincerity and earnestness of its characters is striking, especially Brody; and his relationships with Zakk and Medea give the film something akin to a Shawn of the Dead vibe. I feel like this is more of a horror comedy with a lot of heart that features superb and creative kills than it is an Evil Dead homage that falls short on the viscera.
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Pretty much my thoughts too. However, I'd say the film differentiates itself from the movies that influenced it with its writing and characters. It'll never out-splatter Braindead or out-demon Evil Dead 2, but the sincerity and earnestness of its characters is striking, especially Brody; and his relationships with Zakk and Medea give the film something akin to a Shawn of the Dead vibe. I feel like this is more of a horror comedy with a lot of heart that features superb and creative kills than it is an Evil Dead homage that falls short on the viscera.
I just watched a weird little flick from 1983 called Eyes of Fire. It's basically The Witch if you removed all of the subtlety and made it way more...uh...80s. I honestly had a blast with it. Check it out if you're into weirdo retro horror that's a little more high concept than average, but isn't afraid to throw in a few explosions. I kind of want to describe it as The Witch directed by Ken Russell, but I don't think that's quite accurate either. It's the kind of film I'd definitely pick up if it ever got an unlikely Blu-ray release. Hint hint, Scream Factory.
Edit: I almost forgot, it also has the theme from Carpenter's The Thing, almost exactly, for some reason.
Of course, Mario did direct A Bay of Blood. (I haven't seen the films he made after that so I don't know if they're any sleazier.)
Edit: I almost forgot, it also has the theme from Carpenter's The Thing, almost exactly, for some reason.
Of course, Mario did direct A Bay of Blood. (I haven't seen the films he made after that so I don't know if they're any sleazier.)
darkwing-buck
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ThirstyFly
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Oh yeah, I don't think Braindead is ever going to be out gore'd, but it still felt it just could have been pushed just a little more into the wacky, over-the-top. It just needed a little bit more, but I say that about a lot of horror comedies so maybe I just have unrealistic expectations. But man, that
dildo fight
Brodie makes the movie though. Easily one of the more believable and interesting characters I've seen in a horror/comedy in ages.
"Pretty sure he wasn't possessed."
"What? Oh no, of course he was. When he came in he said, ah, something about Satan. You didn't hear him say that?
"What? Oh no, of course he was. When he came in he said, ah, something about Satan. You didn't hear him say that?
I haven't seen that one yet. It's in the pile for October though. No way it out sleazes Tenebre though.
No, but it comes closer than you might think. It's certainly nothing like, say, Fulci, but it was a huge influence on Friday the 13th, for instance. That's not really something you'd expect of a Bava film based on his 60s output.
ThirstyFly
Member
Okay, so here's the films I settled on for my Bava week:
Mario Bava
Black Sunday (1960)
A Bay of Blood (1971)
Lisa and the Devil (1973)
The House of Exorcism (1975)
Lamberto Bava
A Blade in the Dark (1983)
Demons 2 (1986)
Delirium (1987)
I'll probably alternate though each director to keep things fresh. The House of Exorcism is an alternate version of Lisa and the Devil made for American audiences, but it sounds like it's changed enough that it should be considered a separate movie and they each have an imdb entry, so I'll be counting them as 2.
I also have Mario's The Girl Who Knew Too Much and 5 Dolls for an August Moon, but I won't be watching those for the marathon as I understand they're more thriller/suspense gialli and not horror.
Now you're making it sound even better. I can't wait.
Mario Bava
Black Sunday (1960)
A Bay of Blood (1971)
Lisa and the Devil (1973)
The House of Exorcism (1975)
Lamberto Bava
A Blade in the Dark (1983)
Demons 2 (1986)
Delirium (1987)
I'll probably alternate though each director to keep things fresh. The House of Exorcism is an alternate version of Lisa and the Devil made for American audiences, but it sounds like it's changed enough that it should be considered a separate movie and they each have an imdb entry, so I'll be counting them as 2.
I also have Mario's The Girl Who Knew Too Much and 5 Dolls for an August Moon, but I won't be watching those for the marathon as I understand they're more thriller/suspense gialli and not horror.
Now you're making it sound even better. I can't wait.
Full disclosure, it's probably my least favorite Bava of the ones I've seen, but that's because I really like his more artsy and/or gothic stuff from the 60s and A Bay of Blood breaks away from that. It does have plenty of great kills and a wicked sense of humor, though.
Black Sunday is fucking classic though. It's probably closest to Kill Baby Kill if you've seen that one, in terms of delicious Italian-flavored Gothic style.
And speaking of multiple versions of films, I think this October we should warn people as early as possible about the two versions of Black Sabbath, which I seem to remember tripped a few people up last year.
Black Sunday is fucking classic though. It's probably closest to Kill Baby Kill if you've seen that one, in terms of delicious Italian-flavored Gothic style.
And speaking of multiple versions of films, I think this October we should warn people as early as possible about the two versions of Black Sabbath, which I seem to remember tripped a few people up last year.
Sweeney Tom
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I also liked Mario's Hatchet for the Honeymoon, which I just recently bought and watched. Pretty good list
ThirstyFly
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I haven't seen Kill Baby Kill yet, either. I'm such a Bava noob it's embarrassing
Kill Baby Kill was next on my list, but it got edged out by The House of Exorcism because I thought it would be fun to contrast it with Lisa. I still might ditch House for Baby because of Bava abandoning the film so I'm not really sure if it should be considered his work anymore. I'll have to see if I can get Baby. Luckily I decided to start on my list early so I have plenty of time.Sadly it seems a lot of Bava's films suffered the same fate as Black Sabbath with a neutered American release, that's really a whole topic itself. Along with Sabbath and Lisa/House there's also The Girl Who Knew Too Much/The Evil Eye.
Yeah, America was not good for classic foreign horror in general. For instance, did you know that originally in the US, Eyes Without a Face had all the graphic bits cut out and was given the absolutely ludicrous title "The Horror Chamber of Doctor Faustus?" Eyes Without a Face, one of the most beautiful horror films of all time. A travesty.
ThirstyFly
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That looks good too, added to the list for next year, thanks.
I actually haven't seen that either, but it's on the list. Looks like this year I'm going to have to focus on classics I haven't seen because I've got so many waiting.
I do find it hilarious that so many movies were altered because at the time American audiences weren't accustomed to that whatever level of violence the film had. How times have changed.
The butchering of titles will never make sense to me. Eyes Without a Face is such a haunting title, how could they fuck with that? Giallo films had it the worst. How do you go from La bestia uccide a sangue freddo (The Beast Kills in Cold Blood) to Slaughter Hotel? Yeesh.
It's especially funny because, as you said, "Eyes Without a Face" is an interesting and haunting title, while "The Horror Chamber of Doctor Faustus" sounds really sleazy... but they removed all the graphic parts. So basically, they wanted to make people think it would be graphic based on the title, but they also removed anything remotely offensive in the film itself. Bit of a double standard there.
For the record though, I don't recommend watching EWAF for the violence, because there's only really one scene that's famously graphic and the effects haven't aged amazingly well. The violence is not what makes the movie good though, so I still consider it a masterpiece even if that one scene is a bit cheesy these days.
For the record though, I don't recommend watching EWAF for the violence, because there's only really one scene that's famously graphic and the effects haven't aged amazingly well. The violence is not what makes the movie good though, so I still consider it a masterpiece even if that one scene is a bit cheesy these days.
Extra Sauce
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The Invitation is one of the best movies I've seen in awhile.
Melchiah
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I watched this at the local horror movie festival yesterday, and enjoyed it greatly. Some parts of it reminded me of Trier's Antichrist, the soundtrack and the ending were perfect, and I particularly loved how
the pious folk were portrayed as degenerates.
Looking forward to see it again with subtitles, as some of the dialogue went right past me. It's beyond me how people can hear properly everything the characters mumble. Session 9 was a prime example of that, and unfortunately I still haven't found an European version of it which comes with subtitles, as it was never released here in Finland.
mariachi507
Member
I think you'll enjoy it, there were a few scenes that are basically the proto-80's slasher. It was neat to see where much of Friday the 13th was influenced from.
ThirstyFly
Member
I'm sure I will. And yeah, even if I don't, it's still an interesting piece of horror movie history and it should be pretty to look at.
I saw Hush, and wasn't overly impressed. I wanted more from it; more style, more suspense...More of we, the audience, experiencing Maddie's fear and disability through her eyes. Instead it felt like a fairly rote home invasion flick, with one of the sorriest, least threatening antagonists I've ever seen. It's certainly not a bad film, and there's creativity here; just not as much as I'd hoped for. I came away feeling I'd watched a very standard genre flick. Oculus wasn't perfect, but it's by far the more interesting and original of the two movies, in my opinion.
harriet the spy
Member
It was fun but unequal. 'Accident' is, however, truly excellent
and i usually don't love gory stuff all that much
Spoiler Talk for The Invitation:Yeah saw it the other day too. Solid moviecoming?cult twist
I kept going back and forth throughout the movie. That reveal of Choi was like getting the air knocked out of you. That was a genuine "Oh Fuck" moment for me. Really liked the ending alluding to even crazier shit happening that night.
The 50 Best Horror Movies of the 1990s (Collider)
The 90s were such a weird time for horror, at least in the US. The decade didn't really seem to have any consistent theme or tone for its mainstream horror films, like how slashers were the big thing in the 80s and ghost movies, found footage, and some light torture porn defined the 00s. I dunno, it's probably the only decade I'd struggle to put together a list for. Collider did a pretty decent job though. Although Begotten and Audition are pretty glaring omissions.
Melchiah
Member
I have no idea why Army of Darkness is listed among horror movies, and besides Begotten and Audition it somehow manages to miss Jaume Balagueró's The Nameless as well. Yet it puts such films as The Relic on a pedestal. SMH
This list reminded me of the fantastic horror movies starring Johnny Depp that came out in the 90s. Sleepy Hollow was exactly the stylish, violent, supernatural mystery I'd been longing for when it released, and it was better than I could have hoped for; and The Ninth Gate was a gem that totally surprised me when I stumbled across it.
Of the films in the list that I haven't seen, the only one I'd like to check out based on the write-up is The Day of the Beast. Sounds somewhat Ninth Gateish.
Also, remember how good Exorcist 3 was? That's one I ought to watch again.
mariachi507
Member
I really hope the rumors of a restored Exorcist 3 bluray release are real.
On another note, I've really got that horror itch right now but I only allow myself to watch new horror during October. It seems so far away! Also, #firstworldproblema. In the meantime, I'm stocking up on blurays to prepare for it. I say this every year, but I really think this year's horrorthon is going to be my best one ever.
On another note, I've really got that horror itch right now but I only allow myself to watch new horror during October. It seems so far away! Also, #firstworldproblema. In the meantime, I'm stocking up on blurays to prepare for it. I say this every year, but I really think this year's horrorthon is going to be my best one ever.
ThirstyFly
Member
I don't watch too much during the year either because I try to save the more interesting/rare stuff to talk about for October. I don't know how successful my selections have been in the past, but it makes getting though the month easier for me.
The rest of the year is when I get though the generic stuff like the mainstream movies or whatever is new on VOD that I want to check out. Basically if it's a movie everyone would have already seen before I get to it on October, I may as well watch it now because it's not going to be interesting for anyone to read a review of it 5 months late.
Let me recommend Mexico Barbaro for those looking for another horror anthology. This one however is steeped in Mexican culture, legend, and folklore. The final tale is directed by the promising GiGi Saul Guerrero.
Check your favorite VOD service and perhaps Netflix to watch it.
Redband Trailer - https://youtu.be/WcGj2LRTK64
Next, The Invitation. For those wanting a horror film that tackles paranoia and cults, this has a "who-dun-it?" kind of theme going for it with some genuinely tense moments. It's a slow burn, piling on weird moment after weird moment to make the viewer (and protagonist) increasingly uncomfortable.
It's on VOD as well.
https://youtu.be/uiYJPkNs9Mo
And if anyone is wants the needle on their weird-shit-o-meter broken, check out the classic kung fury horror film, Boxer's Omen. Holy mind fuck.
https://youtu.be/-FMzTASS8C0
Also, if anyone wants to contribute a review or article (credited to you) on our website (www.ttf13.com), hit me up via PM with the movie or idea you had in mind.
I'll be back with more recommends.
Check your favorite VOD service and perhaps Netflix to watch it.
Redband Trailer - https://youtu.be/WcGj2LRTK64
Next, The Invitation. For those wanting a horror film that tackles paranoia and cults, this has a "who-dun-it?" kind of theme going for it with some genuinely tense moments. It's a slow burn, piling on weird moment after weird moment to make the viewer (and protagonist) increasingly uncomfortable.
It's on VOD as well.
https://youtu.be/uiYJPkNs9Mo
And if anyone is wants the needle on their weird-shit-o-meter broken, check out the classic kung fury horror film, Boxer's Omen. Holy mind fuck.
https://youtu.be/-FMzTASS8C0
Also, if anyone wants to contribute a review or article (credited to you) on our website (www.ttf13.com), hit me up via PM with the movie or idea you had in mind.
I'll be back with more recommends.
drotahorror
Member
Mexico Barbaro is on netflix and amazon instant video. Nice about netflix, I just had subbed for a free month. The Invitation is on amazon instant. Also comes out on bluray June 14th apparently.
MB has lots of bad reviews and I'm not sure why. I had only seen a trailer but it looked sick and really disgusting with some great effects. I will definitely watch it before my free month is over.
MB has lots of bad reviews and I'm not sure why. I had only seen a trailer but it looked sick and really disgusting with some great effects. I will definitely watch it before my free month is over.
Boxer's Omen is seriously batshit. Like possibly more batshit than House, but not as good.
I just watched a weird little flick from 1960 called Mill of the Stone Women. It feels a bit like a lesser Fisher or Bava film, with all the requisite cheese (more, actually). If you're into that sort of thing I recommend it; if you're not you can safely skip it.
I just watched a weird little flick from 1960 called Mill of the Stone Women. It feels a bit like a lesser Fisher or Bava film, with all the requisite cheese (more, actually). If you're into that sort of thing I recommend it; if you're not you can safely skip it.
It's an anthology so it's stories are hit or miss. What may be dope to you, will suck for someone else. Personally I found 2 of them thoroughly enjoyable, 1 weird as fuck, and 1 gut wrenching disturbing. The rest...meh. Don't regret the rental.
Damn it. House is fucking GOAT. Also, I used to have a massive crush on Kunfu (miki jinbo)
drotahorror
Member
Still haven't watched it but when I saw the trailer I went to amazon to buy it on blu ray based off the trailer. No blu release though. I should check it out tonite.
Wow I just discovered this thread. Horror is my favourite genre out of any form of media (games, books, movies etc), infact I try and watch something a little bit scary almost every night as it actually helps me sleep knowing I am nice and snug in my bed while someone is out there being murdered lol j/k! I'm mainly into supernatural/sci-fi style horror with ghosts, demons, monsters etc, then it would be detective serial killer style movies where the movie is from the point of view of the detective and you only briefly see the killer etc, stuff like Silence of the Lambs (one of my fave movies ever), Se7en, The Bone Collector etc. I love it when the authorities make gruesome discoveries of dead bodies, then they talk about how the victim was killed and go through the autopsy stuff. Even though I am hella squeamish about this stuff in real life it doesn't seem to affect me at all when watching movies. I think the main thing about horror for me is the shock factor, I don't like shocking things in real life but when it's make believe in a movie I find it fascinating for some reason. My favourite piece of media ever is Alien, then Aliens then The Thing. No other book, game or movie come close to these 3 movies and as you all know these are the best sci-fi horror movies ever. Actually the Souls games come pretty close to these 3 movies so I would rank them up there with this lot.
Anyways I recently watched The Witch which was one of the best horror movies I've seen in ssoooooo long (well since It Follows), the movie reminded me of Kwaidan in the way the atmosphere was just soooo thick and eerie. I lovez it.
I watched half of Noroi: The Curse last night but fell asleep, I was really enjoying some aspects of it but I really think they need to trim some of the content as it was just too slow and I fell asleep involuntarily. Anyways plan on finishing it tonight.
Gonna have a good read through this thread to find some hidden gems as I'm really struggling to find new eerie/creepy horror movies nowadays.
EDIT: Sorry I forgot to mention....I only saw Kwaidan this year and it absolutely blew me away. I can't believe a movie from1964 could be so well made and beautiful. I don't know if they designed these sets or used real locations but some of this stuff is like out of a dream (or Onimusha lol) and then they mix in the ultra creepy/eerie stories in with these dream like visuals. I've never seen anything like it, the mix of beauty, horror and combined with Japanese culture....uGh....anyways I really need to find more stuff like this with this kinda setting/atmosphere. I don't even know if any other movies like it exists because I've done some research and people have recommended Onibaba but this movie did not come even close to Kwaidan's atmosphere and horror element (also it was in Black and White which I don't like), it was more of a drama with one kinda creepy moment. If anyone could recommend me something similar to Kwaidan I would be eternally grateful.
Anyways I recently watched The Witch which was one of the best horror movies I've seen in ssoooooo long (well since It Follows), the movie reminded me of Kwaidan in the way the atmosphere was just soooo thick and eerie. I lovez it.
I watched half of Noroi: The Curse last night but fell asleep, I was really enjoying some aspects of it but I really think they need to trim some of the content as it was just too slow and I fell asleep involuntarily. Anyways plan on finishing it tonight.
Gonna have a good read through this thread to find some hidden gems as I'm really struggling to find new eerie/creepy horror movies nowadays.
EDIT: Sorry I forgot to mention....I only saw Kwaidan this year and it absolutely blew me away. I can't believe a movie from1964 could be so well made and beautiful. I don't know if they designed these sets or used real locations but some of this stuff is like out of a dream (or Onimusha lol) and then they mix in the ultra creepy/eerie stories in with these dream like visuals. I've never seen anything like it, the mix of beauty, horror and combined with Japanese culture....uGh....anyways I really need to find more stuff like this with this kinda setting/atmosphere. I don't even know if any other movies like it exists because I've done some research and people have recommended Onibaba but this movie did not come even close to Kwaidan's atmosphere and horror element (also it was in Black and White which I don't like), it was more of a drama with one kinda creepy moment. If anyone could recommend me something similar to Kwaidan I would be eternally grateful.
Based on your affinity for detective-oriented horror, have you seen Kiyoshi Kurosawa's Cure? If not, I highly recommend it.
For films similar to Kwaidan, i.e. colorful Japanese period pieces from around 1960 with strong horror elements, I recommend Nobuo Nakagawa's Tokaido Yotsuya kaidan / The Ghost of Yotsuya (1959). It's one of my favorite Japanese ghost films. Not as visually stunning as Kwaidan, but pretty much nothing is (I am also wide open to suggestions in that department, lol). Nakagawa's Jigoku from the following year is just as good if not better, but it takes place in the present day and the subject matter is very different. It has some incredible imagery though.
Edit: Be warned that there are quite a few adaptations of the Yotsuya story, many with very similar titles, and I haven't seen any others so I can't vouch for their quality. I'm talking about Nakagawa's 1959 film specifically.
For films similar to Kwaidan, i.e. colorful Japanese period pieces from around 1960 with strong horror elements, I recommend Nobuo Nakagawa's Tokaido Yotsuya kaidan / The Ghost of Yotsuya (1959). It's one of my favorite Japanese ghost films. Not as visually stunning as Kwaidan, but pretty much nothing is (I am also wide open to suggestions in that department, lol). Nakagawa's Jigoku from the following year is just as good if not better, but it takes place in the present day and the subject matter is very different. It has some incredible imagery though.
Edit: Be warned that there are quite a few adaptations of the Yotsuya story, many with very similar titles, and I haven't seen any others so I can't vouch for their quality. I'm talking about Nakagawa's 1959 film specifically.
Wow thanks man, those are some excellent sounding recommendations and I haven't seen or heard of any of them except Kaidan which I heard about last week but definitely have not seen it yet as having real trouble finding a copy of it.
I really wish I could recommend something for you but obviously Kwaidan is a new experience for me so nothing along those lines. If you're after something a bit obscure maybe try Goodnight Mommy? Nothing like Kwaidan and it's not even that great but there were a couple of genuine creepy moments so I thought I'd throw it out there in the hopes you haven't seen it and maybe get some chills out of it. Also Noroi: The Curse isn't too bad....people compare it to The Blair Witch project but I don't think it's like that except for the same sort of handy cam genre, for the best of this style I would recommend the original Grave Encounters....probably the best handy cam style movie I've seen along with Rec.
FlowersisBritish
fleurs n'est pas britannique
Horror and thriller tend to be terms people use very hand in hand. Sometimes when I am unimpressed with the Horror selection in Netflix, I check out the thrillers instead and tend to find better horror movies by some irony.
Jaws is one of my favourite movies of all time. I love the sense of adventure, it's like these 3 guys go out on monster hunting party. I wish more movies would give me this sorta feeling. A sense of adventure and intrigue with danger always lurking nearby.
I finished watching Noroi last night and would definitely recommend it. It starts to become surreal and pretty insane towards the end which is the perfect way to build atmosphere imo. I do think they could've shaved approx. 20 mins off the runtime because some of the interviews etc seem kinda pointless.
I would also recommend Marebito 2004 if anyone hasn't seen it. The main protagonist kinda reminds me of me (lol not really) but he is fascinated by the idea of someone killing himself out of sheer terror so he goes to find the root cause of said terror and unfortunately finds it in the shape of an innocent girl in the sewers (yea I know there is nothing innocent about a girl in the sewers lol). The way the movie plays out is like a living nightmare. Lots of other stuff happens but I can't actually remember much other than checking under my bed before going to sleep so I know it was good lol. I might actually watch it again this weekend.
I finished watching Noroi last night and would definitely recommend it. It starts to become surreal and pretty insane towards the end which is the perfect way to build atmosphere imo. I do think they could've shaved approx. 20 mins off the runtime because some of the interviews etc seem kinda pointless.
I would also recommend Marebito 2004 if anyone hasn't seen it. The main protagonist kinda reminds me of me (lol not really) but he is fascinated by the idea of someone killing himself out of sheer terror so he goes to find the root cause of said terror and unfortunately finds it in the shape of an innocent girl in the sewers (yea I know there is nothing innocent about a girl in the sewers lol). The way the movie plays out is like a living nightmare. Lots of other stuff happens but I can't actually remember much other than checking under my bed before going to sleep so I know it was good lol. I might actually watch it again this weekend.
Aizo
Banned
Marebito is so weird. I didn't love it, but the atmosphere when he is discovering the tunnels is so good.
I'm really into atmosphere more than anything for Horror. It makes or breaks everything for me. I love stuff like Audition and Rosemary's Baby.
Not really much of a Horror film, but the atmosphere in Crimson Peak is perfect.
I'm really into atmosphere more than anything for Horror. It makes or breaks everything for me. I love stuff like Audition and Rosemary's Baby.
Not really much of a Horror film, but the atmosphere in Crimson Peak is perfect.
drotahorror
Member
^ You've probably seen it but definitely check out Pan's Labyrinth.
For me it is almost all atmosphere as well but I just couldn't get into Crimson Peak. I think seeing Loki in there ruined it, they would've been better off using no names as actors as I find movies where I don't recognise the characters way more engrossing. Also the backdrop of it being a love story kinda takes away from that eerie atmosphere that you would see in something like The Shining (one of the best at this) because the set design was great, it just seems like a posh horror love story and I find those themes kinda conflicting with what I'm looking for in the horror genre.
I thought the atmosphere in It Follows was perfect. Even when there was nothing happening onscreen you knew the monster
so there is always that aura of dread throughout the whole movie. I also liked Ex Machina because it was
I thought the atmosphere in It Follows was perfect. Even when there was nothing happening onscreen you knew the monster
is slowly making it's way towards you
like a train wreck you could see happening in slow motion and you knew there were going to be dire consequences.
Everything about Crimson Peak was perfect...excepto the script, the story and most characters...
IMO it is the weakest GDT movie and I'm saying this as someone who loves his stuff.
The poster sold me on this, will watch it later tonight
J-Roderton
Member
Does Circle count as a horror movie? It was pretty cool, just wish it explained a little more.
Recently watched Contracted and Contracted 2 after just randomly choosing them on Netflix. Not bad.
I plan on watching this soon, too. Trailer looked good.
Recently watched Contracted and Contracted 2 after just randomly choosing them on Netflix. Not bad.
I think it's like a zombie apocalypse kicking off or some sort of plague some guy is starting.
I plan on watching this soon, too. Trailer looked good.
HF2014
Member
Amazing movie. Saw it yesterday.