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Hotline Miami PS3/Vita |OT|
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startyourengine
Member
first game that gives me hand cramp on the vita
I think you may be right, especially considering the story was basically a
middle finger to Jacket and Helmet with no real reasoning behind it. It makes sense that the devs would give us the same middle finger through such a contradiction.
Now I'm just left wondering how
such a paradox ends up drawing us into the sequel
That won't give you enough on Crackdown/Chapter 9. I get 50,000 at best. You need 70,000. So that means you have to combo which... with the guns around... isn't too smart to execute the ground people since the drill execution takes a few seconds that means someone can shoot you. I'm thinking the stealth mask works for that one...
Gah, no wonder. :O
With Carl, I've been getting over 60,000 and I kept getting A ranks.
That's the only one that I've seen that Carl isn't effective on. I used Carl for Prologue-00 to 03 and haven't had issues getting A+ easily with it using the ground->execute option. But you have to make sure they aren't wall-grounded but completely flat/floor-grounded before you execute to get the most points.
Edit: Reading around Carl seems effective on the level but I can't seem to get high enough for A+ with it. I might have to see if that exploit works but it requires balls of steel with the gun for it.
Edit: Reading around Carl seems effective on the level but I can't seem to get high enough for A+ with it. I might have to see if that exploit works but it requires balls of steel with the gun for it.
I can't seem to get the extra 600 points with the gun enemies picking up an empty gun in the room trick to work. I can get it to work once but then it doesn't work again. Seems they patched it or I'm doing it wrong.
This just happened to me on the PS3 version. This is the only PSN game I ever had this many problems with hopefully they can patch it.
PC version is just as buggy. Don't count on it.
Also got to 66,000 in Chapter 9. A rank. So yeah, 4,000 more needed for A+. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.
Tried using the drill only. No dice. Tried to go for a combo. No dice. Combining the two seems suicidal with the guns and dogs in that level.
Also got to 66,000 in Chapter 9. A rank. So yeah, 4,000 more needed for A+. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.
Tried using the drill only. No dice. Tried to go for a combo. No dice. Combining the two seems suicidal with the guns and dogs in that level.
Pinko Marx
Banned
I'm pretty sure that
Helmet's version of events is true, to a certain extent. Everything in Jacket's timeline, right up until the Helmet fight is true. In the fight, Helmet puts Jacket into a coma. The stages in Jacket's story after the Helmet fight are untrue until he wakes out of his coma. Remember that one part of the game, one of Jacket's masks says "everything from this point on is fake" or something to that extent.
Gun Animal
Member
What are some more polished, 3d/polygonal games with balancing like Hotline Miami? By which I mean one-hit kills on both the player and enemies, non-respawning enemies, low ammo etc etc. I love the way this game plays and I'd love it even more if it was a third person action/stealth game with otherwise identical gameplay.
Also, I think one of the main reasons modern games lean towards hand-holding is because dying inevitably means waiting 10~20 seconds. would the increased size and speed of ram in next-gen consoles make hotline miami style instant checkpoint reloading more possible?
Also, I think one of the main reasons modern games lean towards hand-holding is because dying inevitably means waiting 10~20 seconds. would the increased size and speed of ram in next-gen consoles make hotline miami style instant checkpoint reloading more possible?
Fushichou187
Member
(emphasis mine)
I don't think you could have an "otherwise identical" game if it were third-person. I think part of the reason HM works so well is the kind of manic rampage that the top down view allows for. The ability to "see through" walls, something that a 3D 3PP simply couldn't do, is what encourages the player to run wild killing everything in their path in pursuit of that A+; the instant respawn also contributes.
Gun Animal
Member
What if you threw in a top-down radar? Or a "listen" mode ala the Last of Us but more fast-paced.
Oh snap. What was the deal with the masks, anyway?
I guessed they were all part of his unstable personality, or hallucinations from all the drugs, but that could be quite a naive view.
I'd like to hear peoples' takes on
the part where Jacket comes home to the guy in the rat mask.
Edit: Hold up, I'm pretty sure when
you take out Jacket as Helmet, you don't just put him into that coma. I mean, you have a butcher's knife... I think you simply kill him off in that "alternate timeline" (as others have suggested), and the coma in Jacket's timeline could be caused purely by himself and all the madness he's been through.
Noisepurge
Member
there are several flimsy Vita Grips around but the Assist Grip is the most solid and as it is a perfect copy of the DualShock handles it feels just right
Combining is the best
Knock the gun guys down, pick up a gun, shoot the dog, instantly pick up the drill again, knock them down again If heavy guys show up, try hiding behind a door. The AI is incredibly silly.
PetriP-TNT
Member
Seriously. I haven't ran to this many problems since I don't know when. I know that some are patched in the beta but it's pretty much the only game that I have seen to throw exceptions and still be able to continue. It has total locked my PC. Crashed billions of times of when doors hit multiple people. Controller stuck on auto-vibrate forever. When I beat the last boss, the music threw an error, computer got stuck for like 5 minutes and then I was able to finish... without sound.
It's an awesome game but goddamn.
Baloonatic
Member
Oh man, you can lock-on. I just started
and only just now realised.
playing as Helmet
Noisepurge
Member
i dont think we know that yet, but we play several different characters in that.
but in this interview Wedin says "And since Jacket pretty much killed all of the Russian mob." so there's that
IHaveCandy
Banned
Trying to A+ every stage. So far I've had the most success with simply punching/throwing people and finishing them off on the ground. Any other tips?
The frog mask that extends your combo timer is pretty essential.
Noisepurge
Member
this was JUST discussed like two posts ago
Carl mask, Frog mask are good for most levels but you might want to try out different ones to maximize variety.best normal point combo is knockdown by door or fist/blunt weapon and a ground finish when the enemy is on the floor, not slumped against a wall. gets around 400-600 points from the knockdown and 1000-1200 points from the ground finish. The Drill Carl -mask does the best combination of these.
I also recommend using level unique items like boiling water and pool cues to do ground finishes to get good points and variety bonus.
Square Triangle
Member
Tony!
I used the Frog mask (Zack) when I went back for my A+ run through. It makes it much easier to chain combos. Also, use doors and throw weapons to knock down enemies then use that weapon to kill them when they're on the ground. You get 300 for the knock down and 1000 for the melee weapon kill while they're on the ground. You do that consecutively with the Frog mask and it all combos for lots of points. Also, if you're "bold" you get even more points. A punch knockdown from behind gives you like 300 points but you can get up to 1200 if the person you knock down is pursuing you and you punch them head on.
Tony is good for the early stages but in the later ones you need a lot of variety to A+ it.
Edit: Sorry for Double post.
IHaveCandy
Banned
Are the dog and window trophies still glitched? I've killed a lot of damn dogs.
Yeah they are. there are a few that I can't get because they're glitched.
This is a great explanation. As pointed out below by B-Genius, the weapon used leaves this somewhat ambiguous still. Thanks.!
Combining is the best
Knocking them down again doesn't give you more points (okay it does but it isn't consistent). If it did, I'd exploit that. You might as well execute them on the ground quickly to combo instead of going for the dogs.
Noisepurge
Member
oh yeah i meant that if there's dogs in the same space and are beelining towards you. knocking the guys down just gives you time to deal with dogs/big guys.
You are in for something awesome.
I've only heard about this game from friends a few months ago and I actually was excited to hear that it's finally coming to consoles by way of PS3 and Vita.
I have to say that though it might be difficult for some, the gameplay has that same trial and error kind of mechanic that made me appreciate Super Meat Boy. Yea, it's a one shot kill, but the gameplay is so satisfying that I want to play it a ton... and having it on the Vita is a fantastic call! Props to the devs for realizing that Hotline Miami on the go is one of the most awesome things to have happen to the Vita this year.
With that said I hope Hotline Miami 2 launches for PS3/Vita also.
I have to say that though it might be difficult for some, the gameplay has that same trial and error kind of mechanic that made me appreciate Super Meat Boy. Yea, it's a one shot kill, but the gameplay is so satisfying that I want to play it a ton... and having it on the Vita is a fantastic call! Props to the devs for realizing that Hotline Miami on the go is one of the most awesome things to have happen to the Vita this year.
With that said I hope Hotline Miami 2 launches for PS3/Vita also.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Been doing that but I keep getting taken out trying to get the 1000 knock down and the 1000 drill execution.
I had a weird moment the other day where I died and immediately suspended the game, ripped the fucking game off of it in a fit of rage, and then went right back and booted it up again.
That stage (I think its 9) where
That stage (I think its 9) where
The SWAT team jumps in caught me so off guard. The music changes and it says "stage complete" so you think its over but its not.
IHaveCandy
Banned
Alright is there an official list of bugged trophies? These are all the ones I'm missing so far.
200 window breaks
99 dead dogs
I know those two are glitched
Use all melee weapons
Do all ground executions
I swear I feel like I've done those last 2.
200 window breaks
99 dead dogs
I know those two are glitched
Use all melee weapons
Do all ground executions
I swear I feel like I've done those last 2.
Noisepurge
Member
I love these suprise unique moments in certain missions, especially when you play it the first time. Curveballs!
Do you have go to the car 60 times? I'm missing that too. The other 4 I don't have either...
I'm not 100% but you may have to use a weapon and complete the level for it to register. You can't restart and hope for another random spawn (If someone can confirm that it would be appreciated).
I know for a fact I've used all the melee weapons and throwing weapons... But no trophy.
Same! Really cool way to mix things up.
The van smashing through the wall
That said, I've jumped more with Hotline than any horror game to date. I think it's the jarring nature of being brought instantly out of "the zone" from one enemy you didn't see or misjudged. Those shotgun toting bastards get me every time I'm on a roll and make me look like a fool on crowded trains.
Noisepurge
Member
here is a complete checklist of all ground execution weapons.
Drill
Knife
Crowbar
Lead Pipe
Golf Club
Baseball Bat
Machete
Sledgehammer
Brick
Hammer
Katana
Glass Bottle
Fireaxe
Scissors
Pool Cue
Broken Pool Cue
Baton
Dart
Frying Pan
Pot
Pot with water
pretty much the same list for melee kills.
Mr.Marston
Member
Its 'Miami' by Jasper Byrne in case you were wondering.
Looking forward to it Chubigans
Wait - Jasper Byrne creator of Lone Survivor?? Or is that just a name coincidence?
eot
Banned
The very same
IHaveCandy
Banned
I've done all of them. I even made a notepad list and marked them off and made sure I did them on my successful run through of the level.
Totally agree.
When that track plays I feel like I'm ON FIRE and going on a killing spree.
