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[Magnific0giganticus]

All souls* games have an easy mode. It's called "summon other players for help".

Edit: and there's also npc phantoms you can summon even while offline.

*Sekiro is not a Souls game.

 

[synchronicity]

All entertainment and human expression should cater to meeeee....

 

[Raven117]

And around and round we go.

I think From has a pretty good sense of what makes their games so compelling.

 

[The Wheel of Fortune]

Never forget the time some absolute weapon of a "journalist" managed to fail at the Cuphead prologue lol


Guess which one's the reputed journalist and which one's the 5yo kid.

 

[G-Bus]

As someone who's terrible at these and hasn't beat a single one.

No. The whole essence of these games is the difficulty.

 

[elliot5]

You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference.

Spoiler

this is what yall sound like

 

[GHG]

Im completely stuck in demons souls for my platinum run.

Yeh and you'd still be stuck in this scenario even if there was a difficulty slider - plenty of games have trophies/achievements tied to difficulty levels.

So git good. Or... You can always move on and play something else instead of being frustrated chasing some meaningless UI popup.

 

[Juza]

All souls* games have an easy mode. It's called "summon other players for help".

Edit: and there's also npc phantoms you can summon even while offline.

*Sekiro is not a Souls game.

THIS.

It's not only makes the game very easy but also boring!

 

[Danjin44]

 

[Yoboman]

They have easy mode

Its called summoning somebody to help your pussy ass

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

The games aren't even that hard. why do you need an easy mode?

the day from software give in to these people is the day I stop buying their games.

 

[Zannegan]

I'm not a big From fan. I only really liked Bloodborne. I'm also not the kind of gamer who plays on hard mode out of the gate and refuses to quit until he's overcome a sadistic game's BS. I like a good challenge, but once a game becomes a chore, I'm out.

But I'm also not a narcicist who thinks that every game has to be perfectly pitched for me, or that I'm entitled to every gaming experience, even those I haven't earned. Not all games have to be all things to all people. In fact, trying to design for the lowest common denominator is what makes so many games so bland.

For example, I can't take linear cinematic experiences these days. So often they're trying so hard to make you feel "awesome" while also trying to make it easy for anyone to succeed that it feels almost insulting. "Woah! That board on our linear climbing path broke, but you kept your cool and held the stick forward. Mad skills bro!"

 

[kanjobazooie]

I solved the problem of having no easy mode in FromSoft games by starting each playthrough with about 10 hours of pure grinding. Just to give myself a bit of an edge (strength and health).

Of course not everyone will be willing to spend 10 hours doing this, but I love repetitive shit, especially when the combat is so satisfying.

 

[Tschumi]

It'll happen one day. I promise. Either a difficulty setting it an entire ip conceived for "casual" games.

 

[CaptainSuperFish]

Have it optional with a GIANT disclaimer that this is not the intended way for the game to be played and not to developers vision etc and then everyone is happy and we can move on from this shit.

 

[HAL-01]

Plenty of game nowadays have accessibility settings that change gameplay significantly, why you people acting so pissy about a settings menu you're never gonna see if you don't want to

 

[ShirAhava]

They should make the game so hard no one can win or even play it so then the game flops and I can play some got damn Armored Core again

 

[Solrac]

journalist asking for easy mode

 

[Bragr]

No, souls games isn't even that hard. They usually have like 2-3 tough boss fights MAX. The levels can be tricky but that's the beauty of the series.

That's just not true, when you die 10+ times on a boss, it's hard.

 

[Danjin44]

This place people either complain about graphics or about difficulty and sometimes both. Do some of you guys want the game play itself for you meanwhile you stare at screen and counting pixels all day?

 

[Md Ray]

 

[Bragr]

Would be perfect but it won't happen because... you know... "artistic vision", "game not for you", "magic is easy mode", "git gud", "hardcore fan betrayal", "option is bad", bla bla bla, well as usual.

Have a good day... and good luck.

Non-bullshit reasons:

- If the game had easier modes, most people would pick easy the moment the game started to punish you. Some of the magic of From Software is how people have discovered that they loved playing through a hard game, even though they spent years playing games. With not giving an option for an easier playthrough, they show people a way to play games they never experienced before.

- Most difficulty modes in games are trash, too easy, or too many spikes. Tailoring the game after one mode is admirable and refreshing.

- From Software has built a huge hardcore audience because they didn't budge and stuck to their vision, it's a selling point for them now.

- Games are not fond of offering hard rewarding challenges in case they alienate most players, they hide a lot of their best gameplay moments behind harder difficulties and lose some of the quality of their games. For example Gears of War, where on harder difficulties, you have to think about how to flank and use strategy, a lot of that is lost on normal and people don't see the game from the best side. From Software negates the trends and targets moments that demand practice and skill from the player, which is a no-no in most triple-A games. From Software targets the things games avoid, which is really fucking cool.

I'm no die-hard From Software fan though, there are problems with their games like boring backtracking, very confusing levels, and sometimes repetitive sections where you just dodge and attack over and over with very little variation in combat, but the difficulty is not one of the flaws IMO.

 

[tommib]

This thread title… I'm on ResetEra? Whiners!

 

[FunkMiller]

Like. Fucking. Clockwork.

 

[existensmaximum]

The games aren't even that hard. why do you need an easy mode?

the day from software give in to these people is the day I stop buying their games.

What games do you consider hard, if these games aren't? Not counting old NES games, but modern stuff. I love the Souls games and Bloodborne to bits, but saying they're *not that hard* is just ridiculous. Compared to what?

 

[cormack12]

I'm interested to see how they balance the open world with encounters and such. Is it going to be more like the common sandbox games where the open world is 90% beautiful/artistic decoration or are we talking about more emergent open worlds with random encounters and question marks like Ubisoft or Bethesda. Honestly, I could think of nothing worse than a Souls game with random encounters every 100 metres that are like fucking rock, would get tedious really quickly when you're just trying to get to the next main mission.

From the trailers, I get the impression the land is quite barren and encounters look singular or small, so we won't see the DS2 gank squads. We will definitely get a poison swamp because FROM love that shit.

 

[sobaka770]

Modern games are piss easy to make even the most inept person feel like a god on normal difficulty. I'm all for accessibility options but not every game needs to be for everyone, let it go.

NB. I agree that souls games are not inherently difficult. Their biggest teaching is patience and simple pattern recognition with timely button presses. Most people who want an easy mode aren't going it because they have a disability, they just want to beat it in 10 hours and move on. I'm not sorry the game says no to that.

 

[Gediminas]

Short answer - no.

Long answer - fuck off.

 

[M1chl]

I don't know if it's needed, Soulsborne games are not difficult like a Cuphead for example, take you time and you could be casual and beat it. I beat Lords of Fallen (gateway drug right there) in around a month, Bloodborne in 2 weeks and then moved onto Dark Souls 3, I beat everything in span of 1 year. What a journey. LOVE IT

So no, don't do this, the game is build around it.

 

[EDMIX]

I don't really understand the desire for an easy mode in souls games.
The entire point of the game is skill based gameplay etc. You don't beat a boss so you can watch some story heavy cutscene and move the plot forward, you do it for the gratification and satisfaction of managing to overcome that challenge.

Maybe, maybe not. Thats like saying "the entire point of the game is to speed run it" I mean, who are you to tell them how to fucking play a game? People play for all sorts of reasons and I've learned ot just accept that instead of forcing this fucking argument that the game was MADE to not have modes or something, I can believe that early in gaming, I can't when we've had decades of having many modes. I enjoy playing theses game btw, I love playing MGS on Boss Extreme, I do not how ever tell folks "the entire point of the game is " XYZ etc.

Nah.


The entire point of the game is what ever the fuck that player decides they want to focus on based on their reason for playing. Some might play for skill, some might play to speed run, some might play for the entire experience of the lore, story telling etc.

I don't see how someone else playing a different mode would fucking bother you. If i mod my game, you going to start crying and sobbing or? Who cares? Play what you like, how you like. I'm ok with what ever the developer does with this game and I have no issue with how fans play it. Focus on why YOU are playing it, I don't see how someone else playing it a different way is relevant to you.

 

[Valedix]

I don't really understand the desire for an easy mode in souls games.
The entire point of the game is skill based gameplay etc. You don't beat a boss so you can watch some story heavy cutscene and move the plot forward, you do it for the gratification and satisfaction of managing to overcome that challenge.

maybe to enjoy the visuals/combat and not dying a million times?

 

[Somoza]

As long as the main game is designed with regular/classic difficulty in mind and easy mode beign a couple of heping things like more live or reduced enemy damage or other perks that doesnt affect the normal mode i se absolutely no harm on a easy mode for those who want it.

I know of people interested on the souls series lore that cant deal with the games and are relegated to watching youtube videos.

 

[xrnzaaas]

What's funny is that they're actually dialing back from what they've done in Sekiro where you couldn't summon people to "turn on the easy mode". I remember swearing in Sekiro that I couldn't call for anyone's help for the castle roof boss and several other extremely annoying ones.

 

[IDKFA]

To add an easy mode would go against the philosophy of FROM games.

 

[GHG]

maybe to enjoy the visuals/combat and not dying a million times?

There are plenty of walking simulators and casual games out there for people who want to play their games in such a way.

 

[tommib]

Short answer - no.

Long answer - fuck off.

The only right answers. Such an annoying topic, geez.

 

[jigglet]

As usual, I will refer them to this and tell them to grow up

Yes but being a quadriplegic he's got more drive and determination. Not exactly an even playing field here.

 

[Portugeezer]

Depends how casual they want to market the game. George RR Martin might get some casual gamers to buy this game, set in a fantasy setting, it's the perfect bait. But if it's as hard (obtuse) as some Souls games, then many of those players probably will struggle, but not in the "git gud" way or get through with perseverance, more in the "not playing anymore" kind of way.

I believe it will have difficulty settings of some sort, despite going against what Miyazaki/FROM have said in the past.

 

[Braag]

Maybe they could give an option for a dynamic difficulty feature? Enemies and bosses would get slightly easier if you die in the same area X amount of times. Or something like that.

 

[DispatchNinja]

I'd buy it if there was a normal difficulty option. As it stands right now I'm never going to touch it.

 

[SJRB]

Oh no, someone is asking for more options in a videogame! What an absolute troglodyte!

Drag this casual swine through the streets!

 

[RedWhiteBlue]

"Videogames are art."

Hi, we've created a game that portrays a dark, hopeless and brutally unforgiving world. We've tried to express this feeling not just through graphics and cutscenes but through challenging levels that end with intimidating and difficult boss fights. The idea of an endless cycle of death and resurrection is baked into the entire concept so you should expect to die a lot. On top of all that we want players to engage with each other and share knowledge to help beat the game. So some players will help others but some will stab you in the back or simply laugh at your predicament. Again, in the spirit of the world of the game.

"Noooooooo ADD AN EASY MODE! It doesn't affect anyone if you just make an easy mode! Jesus why do GAMERS care so much about electronic toys? I just want to have FUN!"

 

[Twinguistics]

Honestly, why not? More options are a good thing right? You don't have to use it if you want to just play on normal.

 

[tommib]

"Videogames are art."

Hi, we've created a game that portrays a dark, hopeless and brutally unforgiving world. We've tried to express this feeling not just through graphics and cutscenes but through challenging levels that end with intimidating and difficult boss fights. The idea of an endless cycle of death and resurrection is baked into the entire concept so you should expect to die a lot. On top of all that we want players to engage with each other and share knowledge to help beat the game. So some players will help others but some will stab you in the back or simply laugh at your predicament. Again, in the spirit of the world of the game.

"Noooooooo ADD AN EASY MODE! It doesn't affect anyone if you just make an easy mode! Jesus why do GAMERS care so much about electronic toys? I just want to have FUN!"

This should be used in automated mode as first reply to these threads followed by a thread lock.

 

[Gediminas]

The only right answers. Such an annoying topic, geez.

some people just too dumb to understand two things :
1: it is core design.
2: not every game is for every gamer and that's OK.

 

[nemiroff]

As someone who has beaten almost every From game many times over and think Dark Souls mostly need patience more than skillz, and has grown up with most games having an easily accessible god mode, I find this obsession over how other people enjoy their games utterly ridiculous. If people want an easier option, give it to them, why should I care.

 

[darkangel-212559]

I feel like there should be for the disabled but I have no strong preference one way or another for myself

What a pathetic, insulting and ignorant comment. You do realise that you have literal disabled people from the neck down smashing these games on PC and using the Xbox Accessibility special controllers right?

They are so good they would wipe the floor of you in an invade. Get the fuck out of here with that BS.

 

[Urban]

No Easy mode in this game but we gamers like our newest techs,updates and systems that help us drive cars better,use software better,get QoL change etc

but when its come to Games? How dare you make it more accessible to more people.
Whats the problem when there is a easy mode? U dont need to use it!?

The first Easy Mode that come to my mind was with Fifa on the Wii. U could play a Match with only one button.

 

[RedWhiteBlue]

Maybe, maybe not. Thats like saying "the entire point of the game is to speed run it" I mean, who are you to tell them how to fucking play a game? People play for all sorts of reasons and I've learned ot just accept that instead of forcing this fucking argument that the game was MADE to not have modes or something, I can believe that early in gaming, I can't when we've had decades of having many modes. I enjoy playing theses game btw, I love playing MGS on Boss Extreme, I do not how ever tell folks "the entire point of the game is " XYZ etc.

Nah.


The entire point of the game is what ever the fuck that player decides they want to focus on based on their reason for playing. Some might play for skill, some might play to speed run, some might play for the entire experience of the lore, story telling etc.

I don't see how someone else playing a different mode would fucking bother you. If i mod my game, you going to start crying and sobbing or? Who cares? Play what you like, how you like. I'm ok with what ever the developer does with this game and I have no issue with how fans play it. Focus on why YOU are playing it, I don't see how someone else playing it a different way is relevant to you.

This is absolute nonsense.

While I totally agree that there is plenty of scope for games that allow players a broad range of activities and styles (minecraft, ubisoft and rockstar open worlds) the idea that every game needs to be played however "the fuck" the player decides is downright idiotic. Its fine for a game to have a narrow focus. Not everything needs to adopt the "something for everyone" or "fun for all the family" mindset.

These are games, remember, and an aspect if many games is the idea of rules. If the game creator decides on the rules of the game then that's fine.

Some of these clowns, like yourself, moaning about this I wonder if you'd insist on cycling a marathon or having a ladder on the basketball court so you can reach the basket.

"The entire point of the game is what ever the fuck that player decides they want to focus on based on their reason for playing."

That is one of the most moronic gaming takes I have ever seen. Well done.

Mind you, when I play chess I like to smash the king and queen together and then pretend that the pawns are their children. I just want to enjoy the world and the characters. That's how I play chess. Who are you to tell me what chess is?

 

[RedWhiteBlue]

No Easy mode in this game but we gamers like our newest techs,updates and systems that help us drive cars better,use software better,get QoL change etc

but when its come to Games? How dare you make it more accessible to more people.
Whats the problem when there is a easy mode? U dont need to use it!?

The first Easy Mode that come to my mind was with Fifa on the Wii. U could play a Match with only one button.

Would this apply to multiplayer games? Or sports and boardgames in real life?

As in, my opponent should be forced to let me win because losing makes me sad?