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[It's all in the wrist]

Well I'm not buying the game if it doesn't. I've had my time wasted by the Souls games three times already and it pisses me off every time (demons, dark souls, bloodborne).

I have no problem with difficult games in the vein of Hotline Miami, Super Meat Boy, etc. Games where you die and IMMEDIATELY get back into the action. I waste a few minutes tops. When I start to lose 20 or 30 minutes of progress, ESPECIALLY from something that's poorly designed or "cheap" (player invades your space and molests you, roll off a tiny bridge, activate a trap), I quit.

I absolutely love the aesthetic and hope I can get into the series some day. I keep trying, but I never get past the second boss. The people that like it REALLY like it, and I wouldn't want to ruin it for them, but I feel like there are legitimate criticisms for that type of difficulty. For example, I loved FZero GX and beat it on the hardest difficulty, and I feel pride for that, but the rubber banding and perfect lines by the CPU were bullshit lol. Maybe 60 FPS and instant loading would help, I haven't played the Demon's Souls remake yet. Meh.

 

[Fbh]

The trailer seems to indicate there would be coop summoning like in Dark Souls.


If all other From games with a summoning mechanic are anything to go by, there's your easy mode.

 

[FromDuskTillGameOver]

sure buddy, only one condition, you always wear a chicken head skin in the whole game.

 

[luffie]

I know that article is probably pure clickbait.....
but waypoints? why not a map?
No status effect? why not invincibility?
What's next? A save before boss? An autosave?
Regenerative health? Why not unlimited potions?
More reach? Why not one hit kill?

Why play Souls game at all?

 

[Matsuchezz]

This happens because Zelda games are a cake walk where the boss generally dies with 3 hits. And those games get always a perfect score by the journalists which is ridiculous. From software games are hard as fuck based on ability, i agree you need good reflexes and patience to get good, I do not have much time to play but a good challenge is always welcomed. It will take me forever to beat the game but i will some day. We are blessed to get super fast SSD on PS5 because games where you die a lot, it is an additional pain to wait for the game to load.

 

[Spaceman292]

yeah its not my native language. Why be personal? Just put me on ignore and dont read it.

You're right I'm sorry.

I still disagree though. I don't get why people think that difficult games demand more time. An hour playing a video game is an hour, it doesn't matter what the game is.

 

[RPSleon]

The actual difficulty setting is control of your own observation skills and patience.

It wouldnt be half the game it is without it beating you in to submission for not paying attention

 

[reinking]

Why are people so against an easy mode even if they are not going to use it? Is it a feeling of elitism that they are playing a game that "those filthy casuals" are not playing? I've never understood why an artificial limit to access a game is applauded by some. Sure, it would be less tense for the casual gamers that choose to play on an easier mode but that would not take away the intensity from those that play on hard or nightmare.

 

[DiscoDave]

It’s not about bragging.

many of these games do have easier ways to play through them. It’s pretty telling that you don’t know that.

Pretty telling you don't even mention about if there should be an easy mode or not. Forget the strategys which is basically what you are on about, why can't there just be an easy mode that is, well easy. You know its because you like to brag you beat a hard game but if there is an easy mode people would question how you did it, anyway I'm sure your mum would be proud eiva way.

 

[Danjin44]

Pretty telling you don't even mention about if there should be an easy mode or not. Forget the strategys which is basically what you are on about, why can't there just be an easy mode that is, well easy. You know its because you like to brag you beat a hard game but if there is an easy mode people would question how you did it, anyway I'm sure your mum would be proud eiva way.

Bragg about what exactly!? Souls games no where near as hard as people making out to be. I'm normal as you can get when comes to "skill" If I can beat it so can everybody else. The problem here is people just don't want engage with actual games and want the game beat itself while they enjoy the "story". Except FROM games are not ND games with cinematic story and cutscenes, they all about combat and boss fights.

 

[DiscoDave]

Bragg about what exactly!? Souls games no where near as hard as people making out to be. I'm normal as you can get when comes to "skill" If I can beat it so can everybody else. The problem here is people just don't want engage with actual games and want the game beat itself while they enjoy the "story". Except FROM games are not ND games with cinematic story and cutscenes, they all about combat and boss fights.

Whats all that got to do with an easy mode? Also don't just assume that if you can do it so can everybody else. Its obvious most people don't even wanna touch that shit cause the difficulty or people would not bring it up. Seriously answer why there should not be an easy mode?

 

[Krappadizzle]

Very easy solution if you're on PC:

Use a trainer. Beat game. Feel shame.

 

[Danjin44]

Whats all that got to do with an easy mode? Also don't just assume that if you can do it so can everybody else. Its obvious most people don't even wanna touch that shit cause the difficulty or people would not bring it up. Seriously answer why there should not be an easy mode?

Because FROM don't want to, it what made their games very different game than most games out there and guess what? Majority of people liked what they made to the point most other developers trying to copy what they did.

But FUCK developers creative freedom?..they should make same type of games as everybody else and turn entire industry bland as fuck.

 

[DiscoDave]

Because FROM don't want to, it what made their games very different game than most games out there and guess what? Majority of people liked what they made to point most other developers trying what they did.

But FUCK developers creative freedom?..they should make same type of games as everybody else and turn entire industry bland as fuck.

They still have their creative freedom for fuck sake this aint brave heart. It would be as simple as making you being able to tank more or enemy's dieing easier why do people hate that idea so much. You would still have the developers creative freedom there but also with an easy mode who don't like that. But yea fuck options eh so MORE people could enjoy what was created by said developers.

 

[Varteras]

Whats all that got to do with an easy mode? Also don't just assume that if you can do it so can everybody else. Its obvious most people don't even wanna touch that shit cause the difficulty or people would not bring it up. Seriously answer why there should not be an easy mode?

Because the developers don't want it. A part of the DNA of the games From Software has made as of late are games that you either learn how to play them and get better at them or you won't get far. Not every game out there needs to include an option to hold your hand. It's perfectly acceptable to have games out there that are intended to be difficult and uncompromising. If you know what those are and you don't like it, then don't buy them. If you don't like sexually objectified women because you think they should be covered up and made to look "normal", don't buy games that do it. If you don't like first person shooters because you want to play in a third person perspective, don't buy those either. If you don't like MMORPGs because you just want to experience a story without any need to interact with other people, don't buy those.

 

[DiscoDave]

Because the developers don't want it. A part of the DNA of the games From Software has made as of late are games that you either learn how to play them and get better at them or you won't get far. Not every game out there needs to include an option to hold your hand. It's perfectly acceptable to have games out there that are intended to be difficult and uncompromising. If you know what those are and you don't like it, then don't buy them. If you don't like sexually objectified women because you think they should be covered up and made to look "normal", don't buy games that do it. If you don't like first person shooters because you want to play in a third pers9on perspective, don't buy those either. If you don't like MMORPGs because you just want to experience a story without any need to interact with other people, don't buy those.

OK so developers don't like money I got ya. NO ONE has said why its a bad idea and just assume its what the devs want. Also I'm not even gunna bother reading the rest of the bollocks you typed you still can't answer how it would hurt the devs creative idea. Like seriously answer how an easy mode would affect the game, as far as I'm concerned normal mode as it would be. They would have to change NOTHING how they create the game just tweak shit after for enemy's to die easier or you to hit harder. Im honestly lost with they way of thinking that it will affect how the devs make the game.

 

[Danjin44]

But yea fuck options eh so MORE people could enjoy what was created by said developers.

Well then, tell me why I can’t play FF14 offline, why no “option” for someone like me who doesn’t like MMO?

Not games all is going appeal to everyone, that’s life.

 

[Matsuchezz]

 

[DiscoDave]

Well then, tell me why I can’t play FF14 offline, why no “option” for someone like me who doesn’t like MMO?

Not games all is going appeal to everyone, that’s life.

Because its online lmao. What are you on about. Yes the game doesn't have to appeal to everyone but an easy mode would make it appeal to more people and not affect the core players as they would not use said mode.

 

[Varteras]

OK so developers don't like money I got ya. NO ONE has said why its a bad idea and just assume its what the devs want. Also I'm not even gunna bother reading the rest of the bollocks you typed you still can't answer how it would hurt the devs creative idea. Like seriously answer how an easy mode would affect the game, as far as I'm concerned normal mode as it would be. They would have to change NOTHING how they create the game just tweak shit after for enemy's to die easier or you to hit harder. Im honestly lost with they way of thinking that it will affect how the devs make the game.

So in other words you're done with discussion. Because all you want is someone to tell you it should be okay to have an easy mode. It's simple. The developers don't want it. Their vision, their desire, is to create games that are tough and uncompromising. They get money just fine. Clearly. Because they've been doing this for a long time now and each time a new release from them gets more and more exposure. So apparently enough people like what they're doing. Like I said, you don't like games that do certain things then don't buy them.

 

[Danjin44]

Because its online lmao. What are you on about .yes the game doesn't have to appeal to everyone but an easy mode would make it appeal to more people and not affect the core players as they would not use said mode.

But you are saying “option” is good, there should be opinion for offline mode for someone like me.

 

[DiscoDave]

But you are saying “option” is good, there should be opinion for offline mode for someone like me.

Thats between ofline and online they would have to change the whole game for it easy and a normal mode NOTHiNG changes just the easy mode is easier in a way ive already described.

 

[Samrf89]

There's no way from software is going to fucking pander to these pussies so this is a moot point

 

[DiscoDave]

So in other words you're done with discussion. Because all you want is someone to tell you it should be okay to have an easy mode. It's simple. The developers don't want it. Their vision, their desire, is to create games that are tough and uncompromising. They get money just fine. Clearly. Because they've been doing this for a long time now and each time a new release from them gets more and more exposure. So apparently enough people like what they're doing. Like I said, you don't like games that do certain things then don't buy them.

I don't buy them and I'm positive a fuck load more dont because of the difficulty. Can you honestly say you won't buy it if it was exactly the same as it is just with an easy mode.

 

[Varteras]

Thats between ofline and online they would have to change the whole game for it easy and a normal mode NOTHiNG changes just the easy mode is easier in a way ive already described.

The point is if you don't like it, don't buy it. Regardless of the reasons why or why not. The developers chose to do things a particular way. First-person view is a choice. Sexy women is a choice. An RPG being totally online and requiring you to play with people is a choice. Having a game be only one difficulty is a choice. And your choice is to buy or not buy them.

 

[Bartski]

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As I mentioned I'll be updating the OP with all such articles as they appear.

'Elden Ring' Should Learn From Dark Souls And Include Difficulty Modifiers

Let Elden Ring sing.

www.gamingbible.co.uk

some Twitter replies on the FROM account are also quite something but I'll skip those for now.

 

[DiscoDave]

The point is if you don't like it, don't buy it. Regardless of the reasons why or why not. The developers chose to do things a particular way. First-person view is a choice. Sexy women is a choice. An RPG being totally online and requiring you to play with people is a choice. Having a game be only one difficulty is a choice. And your choice is to buy or not buy them.

You dodge the fact it will be the same game still exactly how the developer wants and an easy mode is a piece of piss to do for all us pussys who want it easier.

 

[Varteras]

I don't buy them and I'm positive a fuck load more dont because of the difficulty. Can you honestly say you won't buy it if it was exactly the same as it is just with an easy mode.

When I play their games I go into it knowing it's going to be hard. I'm choosing an uncompromising game that's going to make me work for it. I never adjust game difficulty. I play it on whatever the base setting is or never under "normal". It's part of From Software's charm. It's an identity they've carved out for themselves. I accept that. It's part of why their games get so much attention.

 

[Danjin44]

I don't buy them and I'm positive a fuck load more dont because of the difficulty. Can you honestly say you won't buy it if it was exactly the same as it is just with an easy mode.

And yet FROM games selling pretty damn well while making games they want to make......so I’m not saying the issue here other than you wanting every game to cater to your taste.

 

[Samrf89]

Nah fuck that.

 

[DiscoDave]

Well then, tell me why I can’t play FF14 offline, why no “option” for someone like me who doesn’t like MMO?

Not games all is going appeal to everyone, that’s life.

Its not the same at all between an easy mode and normal mode thats changing the whole game and you know it. No one can seem to answer how it would change anything apart from the fact they can tell their friends they beat a hard game.

 

[DiscoDave]

And yet FROM games selling pretty damn well while making games they want to make......so I’m not saying the issue here other than you wanting every game to cater to your taste.

Basically EVERY game has an easy mode so its not catering to just me as im not the only person who would play the game if it was easier. Also I sure as he'll aint got the patience to learn it properly or feel id get something good out of it if I did.

 

[Samrf89]

Its not the same at all between an easy mode and nor.al mode thats changing the whole game and you know it. No one can seem to answer how it would change anything apart from the fact they can tell their friends they beat

Because putting in an easy mode in a soulslike is a symptom of a larger problem, the problem being catering to an entire generation of entitled fucking pussies. Game's too hard? Fuck you, quit like you do in everything else that's difficult in life. (Not saying you personally)

 

[Varteras]

You dodge the fact it will be the same game still exactly how the developer wants and an easy mode is a piece of piss to do for all us pussys who want it easier.

No one is dodging anything. You just refuse to hear anything that isn't, "You're right. There should be an easy mode". That's not what the devs want. Clearly. Because after Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Dark Souls 2, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, Sekiro, and now apparently Elden Ring they refuse to give in and they keep making their games tough and uncompromising. Like I said, that's part of their charm and identity in the industry. That's one big reason why their games get so much attention. Because in a sea of games that can throw you a life raft and pull you to safety theirs just tell you to "swim bitch".

 

[DiscoDave]

Because putting in an easy mode in a soulslike is a symptom of a larger problem, the problem being catering to an entire generation of entitled fucking pussies.

How? So every game with an easy mode is catering to pussies? You can't seem to grasp it would be the same game still and it would then allow a wider audience and maybe even more soul like games without changing the game at all. You seriously need to think what you are actually saying apart from "entitled pussies" bitch please I bet you was born with a silver spoon in your mouth compared to most as you are acting like a spoilt brat where people are not allowed to enjoy the exact game you can just with an easy mode.

 

[Danjin44]

Basically EVERY game has an easy mode so its not catering to just me as im not the only person who would play the game if it was easier.

What people like about FROM game is that they are not trying be just like EVERY other games......what so wrong about that?

Making unique and different game is always have the risk not appealing to everyone but that how we get interesting games.

 

[Samrf89]

"So every game with an easy mode is catering to pussies?"

No. From games don't do that. And if they did, my point still stands.

 

[DiscoDave]

What people like about FROM game is that they are not trying be just like EVERY other games......what so wrong about that?

Making unique and different game is always have the risk not appealing to everyone but that how we get interesting games.

I give up ive lost count how many times I've asked that if its the exact same game but with an easy mode even if its hidden or fuck it cheats, how does that affect the core players at all.

 

[Samrf89]

Because one of the main tenets of souls games that the core audience loves is its complete resistance to pandering to entitled shitlords.

 

[Samrf89]

I'm not even that big of a fan of souls games. But what got my hooked on demon's souls is it completely gave zero shits about how hard it was for me, the player. And that attracted the hell out of me.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

FROM games fans thinking they are so hardcore, news flash, most games have nightmare (or whatever name difficulty). You are just playing a game on the highest difficulty. Play Doom Eternal on Nightmare and ull die over and over plenty.

 

[DiscoDave]

Because one of the main tenets of souls games that the core audience loves is its complete resistance to pandering to entitled shitlords.

Lmao so you think people play the game just because there is not an easy mode. The above post puts it well.

 

[Danjin44]

I give up ive lost count how many times I've asked that if its the exact same game but with an easy mode even if its hidden or fuck it cheats, how does that affect the core players at all.

And people here told you MANY times that developers clearly don’t want to do and so far it’s working out for them.

 

[Samrf89]

Lmao so you think people play the game just because there is not an easy mode.

Not necessarily. I think they play the game because it's difficult and there's no way out of that difficulty other than getting better and beating it through your own fortitude.

 

[Samrf89]

From games being cherished for being difficult and not having an easy way out is the same reason people think LeBron will never hold a candle to Michael Jordan.

 

[DiscoDave]

Not necessarily. I think they play the game because it's difficult and there's no way out of that difficulty other than getting better and beating it through your own fofortitude.

How is that different from any normal game and not once have I played easy on any game but the option is there and it didnt bother me that it was and I never thought about changing difficulties.

 

[Samrf89]

How is that different from any normal game and not once have I played easy on any game but the option is there and it didnt bother me that it was and I never thought about cha ging difficulties.

Don't get me wrong. It doesn't bother me either if a game has an easy, medium, and hard difficulty setting. But this is a from game. It's just a different culture.

 

[Banjo64]

 

[DiscoDave]

Don't get me wrong. It doesn't bother me either if a game has an easy, medium, and hard difficulty setting. But this is a from game. It's just a different culture.

I understand that but nothing changes with the gameplay if it does have an easy mode just seems the ego of some don't want it to. As for the developers not putting it in well they are obviously pandering to the entitled pussies that don't want an easy mode there as the cant tell there friends how superior they are for beating the game.

 

[Danjin44]

How is that different from any normal game and not once have I played easy on any game but the option is there and it didnt bother me that it was and I never thought about cha ging difficulties.

Majority is of games have half-ass difficulty option, there are people who play games like Bayonetta and DMC on easy or Normal and call it boring “button masher” because they don’t want engage with its combat in higher difficulty, AGAIN FROM clearly doesn’t want to do that.