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How do you feel about Interracial Dating ?
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Tommie Hu$tle
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firex said:
BINGO. Within other ethnic circles they may have their own internal discussions but, none come to the level as blacks (men) and white (women). Even within other ethnic groups in general from a extended family standpoint it is horrible to see your daughters with Black men. Until I see Indians on Blondes color this a symptom of the reality of Black/White race relations.
IAmtheFMan
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Mugen said:
Heh... kinda funny that you mention that. I had a situation a couple years ago; I was at a party talking to this Asian girl that was somewhere between somewhat to moderately attractive (hey I was pretty drunk) and we were hitting it off pretty well for about an hour or two.
Me: So, what if I give you a call sometime.
She: Well, don't take this personally, but I don't date Asian guys.
Me: (blank stare)
She: Yeah, I mean you're really cute and all, but it's just something in the way that I was raised.
Me: (continue to stare blankly)
She said some more bull-shit, but I kinda stopped listening. But man, that caught me off-guard. It wasn't really a feeling of rejection mainly... confusion. Plus, she wasn't that attractive to begin with.
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wait, an asian woman refused to date you on the basis of you being asian?
IAmtheFMan
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catfish said:
Pretty much. It was a genuine WTF moment for me.
Error Macro
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IAmtheFMan said:
Yeah, I've heard of this happening several times before to people I know. That's just... I don't know what to say.
ShadowRed said:
That has to be the first semi-intelligent thing I've heard you say since I've known you. Congrats.
Error:
Allow me to ask you then: how do we go about making it a (more) perfect world? If it's not through education and increased exposure to interracial offspring, then I don't know how it would be done. And I refuse to believe that our current societal notions vis-a-vis race are better than what we could have, and so it is worth trying. The above is a defeatist mentality that basically expresses resignation to the status quo, because under that view there would be no mechanism (i.e., examples of good-natured, healthy interracial children/people) whereby others who might house more racist ideas-- however slight-- could come to see that it's not all that bad (referring to interracial children/couples).
Whether you like what he said or not, ShadowRed (I know-- for the first time ever; I'm as stunned as anyone, believe me
) made some very good points above; you'd do well to at least consider them instead of dismissing them outright. 
Error Macro
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Loki said:Whether you like what he said or not, ShadowRed (I know-- for the first time ever; I'm as stunned as anyone, believe me
I did not dismiss them outright, other than I refuse to engage in discourse with someone so willing to grossly misrepresent what I said, and who makes replies to fallacious points which he fabricated and then affixed to me.
Now, to your question: Deafeatist attitute? Well, only if you must attach that title to it. But in a sense I suppose it's fairly accurate. I don't wish to force people to be the burden of societies problems, whether they like it or not. That would be another example of the unfairness of the situation. As I said, these are inherent problems in any civilized society; this sort of racism and class disassociation has happened with every civilization throughout history. While true that the utter acceptance of mixed races would most likely be probably only through interrational mixing, over time, I don't believe in subjecting people to those problems without their consent. As I do with birth defects, such as mental retardation, drug dependencies, disease, etc.
Umm, this is like, the very basis of continuing the human species. It's inevitable that each new generation will have to deal with the problems of the previous ones. You can either wallow in it or try and progress to allow your children a better world to live in.Error Macro said:
What is productive about saying that certain people can't breed with certain people, just for the sake of not being forced to deal with a problem directly?
Error Macro
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Whoops, I misspelled "society's."
Anyway, I didn't say there was anything necessarily wrong with it. I just feel in some way that I want to give people the path of least resistance in life. Having to take on societal problems is not something for me to force my offspring into doing.
Besides, I don't think the problem can be dealt with directly. That's my point.
Anyway, I didn't say there was anything necessarily wrong with it. I just feel in some way that I want to give people the path of least resistance in life. Having to take on societal problems is not something for me to force my offspring into doing.
Besides, I don't think the problem can be dealt with directly. That's my point.
Late Stage Marxist
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There are some damn fine girls out there that are the product of interracial dating. That's all I know for sure.
How's that Weezer song about half-japanese girls go again? :lol
How's that Weezer song about half-japanese girls go again? :lol
:lol
Yeah, I've heard the same thing from asian girls about how they won't date asian guys. Being asian myself, it threw me for a loop several times.
I think it's because the stereotypes for asian guys are either that they're total wimps or real assholes. That's the impression I get from my sister anyway (who wouldn't date asian guys back when she was still dating).
Yeah, I've heard the same thing from asian girls about how they won't date asian guys. Being asian myself, it threw me for a loop several times.
I think it's because the stereotypes for asian guys are either that they're total wimps or real assholes. That's the impression I get from my sister anyway (who wouldn't date asian guys back when she was still dating).
Error Macro said:
Well, I could go off on several tangents regarding your last couple of lines there, but I really need to get to bed. Allow me to say this, however:
As was mentioned, there are other conditions that one can be born into, such as penury, which can be just as ruinous as one's interracial status. In light of that, do you likewise suggest that no parent who doesn't meet a certain income threshold should be able to bear children? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, mind you, but that really cuts to the heart of the matter imo.
There are some people who-- though well-intentioned-- try to fit people into the world, by assigning weights to certain factors such as you've mentioned, by which they then judge what level of acceptance a person would have (note: not should have, as you've said that in your ideal world, these issues wouldn't exist). There are others, however, who endeavor to fit the world to all people, no matter their qualities, afflictions, or failings; to effect change in such a way as to remove barriers between people rather than erect them, to heal wounds rather than inflame them. In acquiescing, in a sense, to the idea that your friend's (and others of similar circumstance's) "condition" is beyond his means to repair, you do your friend and yourself a disservice. If you know better, then why don't you help him to be better, as opposed to tacitly reinforcing the very ideals that made him feel that way?
It's up to you which type of person you choose to be, because you really can't have it both ways.
And believe me, there are TONS of things I could have said to those last couple of lines in your post so as to illustrate the differences between these situations, but I'm really very tired and have to get to bed; I also take issue with the notion you've proposed entirely: that those affected by those various conditions should, in essence, be "wished away" since it was impossible for them to consent to their afflictions. I feel that someone of proper perspective would say, "these people are here and will continue to be here-- what is the best we can do to ensure a pleasant existence for them and for all?" Because realize this: social notions as to what constitutes harmful "afflictions" (real and imagined) are fluid, and subject to change with the times; taken to an extreme, this sort of mentality is what begat eugenics (and I'm by no means suggesting that you here express kinship with such an ideology; it's just an example). Something to think about.
Just my take. 'Nite.
Error Macro
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Loki said:
No, that doesn't cut to the heart of the matter, I'm sorry. Poverty is something that you can aspire to overturn; racism you cannot. There is no way that one person can overcome people misconceptions, predjudices, etc., but a person does have the opportunity to break free from the shackles poorness, however hard that struggle may be.
There are some people who-- though well-intentioned-- try to fit people into the world, by assigning weights to certain factors such as you've mentioned, by which they then judge what level of acceptance a person would have (note: not should have, as you've said that in your ideal world, these issues wouldn't exist). There are others, however, who endeavor to fit the world to all people, no matter their qualities, afflictions, or failings; to effect change in such a way as to remove barriers between people rather than erect them, to heal wounds rather than inflame them. In acquiescing, in a sense, to the idea that your friend's (and others of similar circumstance's) "condition" is beyond his means to repair, you do your friend and yourself a disservice. If you know better, then why don't you help him to be better, as opposed to tacitly reinforcing the very ideals that made him feel that way?
It's up to you which type of person you choose to be, because you really can't have it both ways.
And believe me, there are TONS of things I could have said to those last couple of lines in your post so as to illustrate the differences between these situations, but I'm really very tired and have to get to bed; I also take issue with the notion you've proposed entirely: that those affected by those various conditions should, in essence, be "wished away" since it was impossible for them to consent to their afflictions. I feel that someone of proper perspective would say, "these people are here and will continue to be here-- what is the best we can do to ensure a pleasant existence for them and for all?" Because realize this: social notions as to what constitutes harmful "afflictions" (real and imagined) are fluid, and subject to change with the times; taken to an extreme, this sort of mentality is what begat eugenics (and I'm by no means suggesting that you here express kinship with such an ideology; it's just an example). Something to think about.
Just my take. 'Nite.
You, along with the people you descibe in your above paragraphs, seem to be "looking at the world through rose colored glasses", so to speak.
In what sense do you believe that I propose for certain people to be "wished away"? This is just another ludicrous fallacy; a misrepresentation of my words.
What if the child of an interracial didn't grow up being discriminated against? You cannot just assume that just because a child is of mixed race they will be socially shunned. People should procreate for themselves, not for what others believe will give their child the best life, anyway.
I had a friend in highschool who had a black father and white mother. He pretty much looked black. Other than being a stubborn, spoiled bitch, he seemed fairly normal and well-adjusted. Certainly nobody gave a shit, at least nobody that mattered.
As someone of mixed heritage (mother is Korean, father American), i'd almost agree with Error Macro.
Growing up, my sister (who looks alot more Asian) and I were made fun of ALOT. Every time we'd get on the bus, people would make karate noises at us, and I had people asking what country I was from, etc. And then someone wrote my sister a note telling her they "hated Japs" and that she should go back to her own country.
And even in present day, my fiancee's previous co-workers used to ask him if I ate dogs (don't and never have, duh) and all these other misconceptions.
So I can understand Error saying that it's not too fair to the child of an interracial couple, at least speaking from experience.
Or maybe it's the fact that people in backwater Southern towns just suck.
Of course, now that i've gotten older, i'm very proud of my Asian heritage, so it can go both ways I guess.
Growing up, my sister (who looks alot more Asian) and I were made fun of ALOT. Every time we'd get on the bus, people would make karate noises at us, and I had people asking what country I was from, etc. And then someone wrote my sister a note telling her they "hated Japs" and that she should go back to her own country.
And even in present day, my fiancee's previous co-workers used to ask him if I ate dogs (don't and never have, duh) and all these other misconceptions.
So I can understand Error saying that it's not too fair to the child of an interracial couple, at least speaking from experience.
Or maybe it's the fact that people in backwater Southern towns just suck.
Of course, now that i've gotten older, i'm very proud of my Asian heritage, so it can go both ways I guess.
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That's what I asked, but I was called a reactionary idiot.-jinx- said:
And I'm sorry if it offends people that the concept that people of different races shouldn't have kids, but you have to understand that when you're one of those kids it's offensive; the idea sounds hateful to me. And whom do you suppose I should have a fucking kid with -- now that I'm "burdened"?
videogamer
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Be-Ah-Hui said:
I think that they seem to have problems with Asians in general, rather than your mixed heritage.
Many of my peers and I think that mixed Asians look HOT. They are oftentimes some of the most sought-after people, on looks alone. One guy I know is interested in ONLY mixed people. I live in an area with a large immigrant population, and mixed couples are nothing exceptional... I would assume that the rest of the country will get used to mixed people sooner or later.
That's about as bad as what I've heard people say about a white guy I know from local theater who has a black wife. According to most people, he's a weirdo (well ok, he's a little eccentric, but it has nothing to do with his spouse) and she's half-retarded, neither of which are true.Be-Ah-Hui said:
anotheriori
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White guys should hit on asian girls, they don't seem to like the asian guys.
Comfort_Eagle
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I LOVE Hispanic women. Growing up in so. arizona will do that to you....
As for the question, i dont even see how it should be an issue in this day and age. If you have a problem with it, then you really are a fucking idiot.
As for the question, i dont even see how it should be an issue in this day and age. If you have a problem with it, then you really are a fucking idiot.
Error Macro
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-jinx- said:
No. The child is the one who might have the problem. I couldn't care less what other people think.
I strongly believe in interracial dating, and I will always work to bring peace and understanding among the races, even if this means building a time machine and going back to bump uglies with Lena Horne.
And don't let the bigots keep you from having kids. Just make sure you choose a good community (which you should be doing anyway).
And don't let the bigots keep you from having kids. Just make sure you choose a good community (which you should be doing anyway).
Interracial dating and marriage has been going on for ages...
I do wonder how long before the "race" issue becomes as irrelevant as the "nation" issue has become for many folks with European ancestors. The Irish were hated when they started coming over to the USA... these days, I think you'd have a hard time finding anyone who CARED about the backgrounds of the Irish/Italians/English/Polish/Czech/etc..
(Yes, I know, "white folks all look the same" -- cough. I'm just wondering how long before we start failing to notice things...)
I do wonder how long before the "race" issue becomes as irrelevant as the "nation" issue has become for many folks with European ancestors. The Irish were hated when they started coming over to the USA... these days, I think you'd have a hard time finding anyone who CARED about the backgrounds of the Irish/Italians/English/Polish/Czech/etc..
(Yes, I know, "white folks all look the same" -- cough. I'm just wondering how long before we start failing to notice things...)
i've casually watched black guy-white girl couples and the looks they get in public, especially from black women and white people in general. Seriously, if looks could kill...
Things racially are better than they were 20 or 30 years ago in terms of equality, but a lot of people still stick to their predjudices and teach their children to hate, and i doubt that'll ever change.
Things racially are better than they were 20 or 30 years ago in terms of equality, but a lot of people still stick to their predjudices and teach their children to hate, and i doubt that'll ever change.
norinrad21
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Isamu is so pretty i would love to have him as my cell mate in a Bankok jail
I have no problem with interracial dating. Hell, I dated a girl from Asia who lived in Sweden, she couldn't even speak Swedish (so I got to practice my English, yeah). Very international, very interracial!
A friend of mine dated a girl who lived in Singapore, while he lived in Sweden. Very international, very interracial!
Another friend of mine is together with a girl who lives in Africa, while he's in Sweden. Very international, very interracial!
A friend of mine dated a girl who lived in Singapore, while he lived in Sweden. Very international, very interracial!
Another friend of mine is together with a girl who lives in Africa, while he's in Sweden. Very international, very interracial!
Dram said:
It depends where you live. The situation you described would only be likely in a land where there is a good mix of races that are used to seeing each other and not ignorant of each others cultures.
I dont have aproblem with them myself. My sister has mostly dated white guys im more attracted to black women cause i subscribe to sir mixalots ideals. As for it still being generally being considered an issue it definatly is in hollywood as there arent many films that depict interracial sex scenes between a blackman and a white woman. In fact the media in general. In how many RNB videos is the love interest white and how many times is the britney a-like pop girl pineing after a brother?
I've never dated out of race before, like, I have no problem with interracial dating, but there are some races that I don't really find a lot of girls attractive in. But if I did, and she liked me, then by all means. My current girlfriend is a Jew (but her family isn't religious at all), and I was raised Roman Catholic (but I don't give a damn really about religion), my mom found it quite odd, till I explained to her that religion isn't a big part of my life so I really don't care. Hell, my best friend (who is Hispanic) married a white girl.
But, it's sad, I live in the predominantly white suburbs of LI... so interracial dating/marriage is still looked down upon. My mom's friend has 2 granddaughters that are 1/2 white, 1/2 black... my mom has went out shopping/for dinner with her a number of times, and she brought her grandchildren along, and they've frequently got strange glances.
But, it's sad, I live in the predominantly white suburbs of LI... so interracial dating/marriage is still looked down upon. My mom's friend has 2 granddaughters that are 1/2 white, 1/2 black... my mom has went out shopping/for dinner with her a number of times, and she brought her grandchildren along, and they've frequently got strange glances.
MrPing1000
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Its only a big issue in the USA
clipunderground
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Hey guys, It's all pink on the inside.
I find it ironic that people here fap over blonde/blue eyed women and support interractial pairs having children.. If we all mix, there won't be any natural blondes or blue eyes in a couple of hundred of years. Basically everybody will be a brownish color with dark eyes, and like preservation of different cultures, preservation of different racial features is important.
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