The truth is, a GTX 1070 is a pipe dream for XBONEX, whoever told you that must be grinning that he fooled you.... I'd like to know who started the XBONEX is equivalent to a 1070 though, it's hilarious.... I hope it's no tech outlet
Unlike many people here I'm not Playstation or even Xbox fanboy (I game on every popular platform, and I have uploaded many screenshots from xbox x/PS4P/PC games here on neogaf). Because of that I'm not blind to facts. I can see xbox x CPU is weak as 100 years old man
, but I can also see it's GPU is faster than people like you are willing to admit.
I have made extensive research in regards to PS4P and xbox x tech, so dont worry about that
. Xbox x GPU has indeed some vega features if you havent know that (delta color compression from vega for example improve memory bandwidth on xbox x), so maybe you should do your own research better next time before you suggest other people to do it for you.
https://gamingbolt.com/behind-the-xbox-one-xs-architecture-part-i-what-makes-the-gpu-special
Very good article, and it's clearly written xbox x GPU adopts features from both polaris and vega.
And dx12 processor is also build into xbox x GPU
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox-scorpio-dx12-built-directly-into-gpu.1358475/
"The bottom line is that Scorpio's six teraflops will almost certainly go a lot further than an equivalent PC part"
That's what DigitalFoundry have said in their article.
With vega features like memory compression and dx12 processor build into hardware level on top of that it should be obvious to you xbox x GPU is more like RX 580 on steroids at this point (polaris RX 580 GPU has none of these said features). Thanks to these architecture changes on xbox x GPU is able to double PS4P GPU results with only 1.8 TFLOPS more! Red dead redemption 2 runs on xbox x with twice as many pixels compared to PS4P so that should show everyone how important these architecture improvements were on xbox x console.
You say there's nothing to suggest xbox x GPU can be compared to 1070, yet I have seen many games on xbox x with performance like 1070 (and if not better). On top of that some developers even compared xbox x GPU performance to 1070, and warthunder developer in particular compared it even to 1080.
I remember one GTX 1060 user here on neogaf, who have argued with me his 1060 can match xbox x results in forza 7, but when I have asked him to provide recorded gameplay from one rainy stage in particular he had dips there to around low 50 fps, and that was with high settings only (I bet xbox x settings are matched at this point, if not even better). With maxed out settings and 4xMSAA forza 7 dips to low 40 fps on GTX 1060 (on YT MaDz gaming channel there's gameplay video with dips like that and MaDz even admitted his 1060 6GB was not able to match xbox x results in this game).
Forza 7 on Xbox x runs with perfectly locked 60 fps in 4K with close to maxed out settings and xbox x GPU usage according to DigitalFoundry is still far from maxed out (without vsync performance is probably around 80fps). Can 1060 users can really match performance like that? The truth is no, because 1060GTX dips to 50fps even at high settings, and that's of course not what xbox x users are seeing. So obviously If people want to match xbox x results they need something better, and what's also interesting even on 1070 there are scenarios, when fps will dip below 60fps in this game (it's rare but I have seen gameplays with dips on 1070 below 60fps in forza 7). So how is that even 1060 users are admitting they cant match xbox x results, and sometimes even 1070 struggle to match xbox x results, and yet you say 1070 is far superior than xbox x GPU while it's clearly not.
Besides forza there are also other games that shows much better performance compared to 1060. Games like metro exodus, and wolfenstein 2 in particular are very interesting. Wolfenstein 2 runs on xbox x in 4K dynamic at 55-60fps and close to high settings. 1060 even with 2GHz OC runs the same game at 45-55fps at 4K dynamic and that's with LOW and medium settings mix (RX 580 results are only 2-3fps better in this game compared to 1060). So even with worse settings both 1060 and RX 580 cant match xbox x results.
Can you explain me why 1070 GTX dips to 13 fps with xbox x 4K native and "high" settings equivalent (4K + high settings benchmark starts at 12m16s). You have said 1070 is far superior and yet it cant match xbox x results as shown here. I wonder how your unrealistically cheap PC (stolen windows 10 key) with 580 RX would fare
, probably even worse.
Truth be told, I have seen games that run worse on xbox x compared to 1070 (assassins creed origins for example), but these were big open world games so CPU bottleneck can explain worse performance. But in GPU bound scenarios it really looks to me like xbox x can easily match 1070 results and even surpass it in certain games.
I had to touch on your other points,
4$ keys are stolen and cant be considered legal without a license, so no wonder you had to steer discussion away from facts.
