Yeah, this only screws things up for me on my TV which is limited range.
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HTC Vive Launch Thread -- Computer, activate holodeck
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Yeah, this only screws things up for me on my TV which is limited range.
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- Pull controllers off wall
- Use controllers
- Plug controllers in somewhere to charge them
- Monitor controller charge level
- Unplug controllers once charged
- Hang controllers back on wall
Way too many steps for the wall mounting. =P
- Pull controllers off chargers
- Use controllers
- Replug controllers back at charging location and forget about them
Edit: I would at least need something like this to consider wall mounting, and then I'd have to deal with the cables dangling.
1. Hang controllers on wall just above wall socket
2. When they need charging, leave them hanging and just plug a USB cable in
Zalusithix
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Leaves a cable trailing up the wall, and is still more effort than the shelf option (have to reach further for the cable). Just leave the controllers on the floor by the socket, Durante style. ;P
TharpDaddy
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I have $20 in Stream credit. Anything worth picking up for around that price? Or maybe some cheaper experiences? I have Call of the Starseed, Raw Data, Space Pirate Trainer, Tilt Brush, Zombie Training Simulator.
Water Bears VR.
VR The Diner Duo if you have someone to play in local coop with.
I'm very surprised. It's a tool I wrote ages ago, I didn't think it would even do anything in modern NV drivers any more.
VR The Diner Duo if you have someone to play in local coop with.
Really? It actually does something on Vive?
I'm very surprised. It's a tool I wrote ages ago, I didn't think it would even do anything in modern NV drivers any more.
Astral/H3X
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Hey guys, what's the best way to get a remote view into another room?
What I'm going to do for my vive is run cables from my office where the PC is, into the living room where the Vive is. But, for showing off to friends, I'm going to want another display in there. Does Steamlink work well for this? Or do I just need to run a whole other HDMI cable for it?
What I'm going to do for my vive is run cables from my office where the PC is, into the living room where the Vive is. But, for showing off to friends, I'm going to want another display in there. Does Steamlink work well for this? Or do I just need to run a whole other HDMI cable for it?
Steam Link works great, as I recently found out thanks to GAF. Just launch SteamVR then turn on the Link and connect to your computer - should mirror both audio and video.
I had to go into the SteamVR sound options and enable "mirror audio to device", but that was about it. I've used twice now for parties and it works really well. Occasionally if I'm in a game for a long time the steam link will lock up, but I think that has to do with going into a sleep mode or something since I haven't touched the controller.
Maiden Voyage
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I am super tempted to pick this game up.
TharpDaddy
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Unfortunately my space seems to be too small for Water Bears per their requirements. Diner Duo definitely seems cool though, i'll pick that up. I also grabbed SoundStage. I have no particular musical affinity, but it seems really fun to play around with. Music creation programs are super intimidating in a way this isn't, so I can just hop in and start creating -- similar to Tilt Brush.
IMACOMPUTA
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Finally putting some time into elite dangerous VR.
This shit is amazing.
This shit is amazing.
VR is expensive, lol. I turns out the 25ft cables I bought were NOT adequate enough. Looks like I am going to push for 50. I know I can get a 50ft HDMI cable that will work, but a 50ft USB cable, even active, might be an issue. I have an entire room in the house that I can dedicate to my Vive. I just have to get it there.
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I've tried exactly that yesterday but for a different reason.
Normally I'm playing on a plasma TV, so limited RGB.
Now inside VR I noticed that in Audioshield there is a stage with flags flowing in the wind, I've seen videos on youtube of that stage and you can see the audioshield logo on the flags in those videos. I can see nothing on the flags because they are way too dark on my HMD (completely black).
So as a test I changed the limited setting to full RGB, then fired up Steam VR. There was no difference in the HMD, looked exactly the same.
Maybe I'm overlooking something, could be that there is another/different setting specially for the HMD somewhere in the system, outside of the GPU settings?
Wowfunhappy
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Don't know what I was doing wrong the first time, but I used this on Sunday and it absolutely works. Close normal SteamVR, and use the .bat file I made to start this version. Luminous Abyss is amazing.
Possible to share this on Google drive? The download limits me to only chunks at a time unless I download the Amazon app. If I go chunks at a time, it times out usually.
Wowfunhappy
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Can confirm that this USB cable worked for me (including with the camera). https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040IG1A6/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I also got this HDMI cable, although it really is ridiculously expensive at $67. Although I will say that it's extremely thick and sturdy, so that's nice at least.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0186DNFLI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Oops, I forgot about Amazon's stupid file download limit. Their app sucks by the way. Try this one: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6Oo1J1jrGHTYV81R1oyUEZzcjg/view?usp=sharing
Maiden Voyage
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It's a little cheaper through Monoprice directly. They make great cables too. I usually go through them.
Those display settings are not available for the Vive when it is in Direct Mode, though, right?
awesome thanks so much!
Thank you. Going to go with these.
Wowfunhappy
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No problem. One quick note I want to mention because it may save you some headachethis cable only works in one direction. One end needs to be plugged into the source (your computer) and the other end into the destination (your linkbox). So make sure you have the right end beforehand.
GuitarAtomik
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You can download that Freedom Locomotion demo that Zaptruder made now.
If you want one, I'd jump on that asap.
Edit: Depending on when you plan to build your PC, obv.
Planning to build around 1080Ti launch most likely. Currently haggling the hell out of this dude and trying to get it for around $400-450 now lol. If he agrees on that, I'll impulse buy the fuck outta this. Cause that's way more than fair for the best consumer VR solution on the market currently haha.
I was enjoying a lot my Vive and i had so many hours of fun but now im having problems with the display on the headset, both screens turn off randomly while playing.
After some testing and pulling my hair out, i´ve narrowed down the problem, it is the link box, the HDMI connector is a little bit loose when connected to the link box, so if i move it, it loses the signal.
In the meantime to fix it, i´ve locked the cable where it connects to the linkbox to avoid any movement.
It is disapointing that the quality of the accesories is not the best.
After some testing and pulling my hair out, i´ve narrowed down the problem, it is the link box, the HDMI connector is a little bit loose when connected to the link box, so if i move it, it loses the signal.
In the meantime to fix it, i´ve locked the cable where it connects to the linkbox to avoid any movement.
It is disapointing that the quality of the accesories is not the best.
I downloaded Dolphin VR but now I can't get it to work normally without VR. Every time I open it it's Dolphin VR and I just want to play it on my monitor. Anyone know what the problem is or do I just have to redownload a seperate Dolphin again now?
----Guess I overwrote my normal Dolphin by installing Dolphin VR into the same folder.
----Guess I overwrote my normal Dolphin by installing Dolphin VR into the same folder.
LamerDeluxe
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Sorry guys, made this post shortly before leaving the house and totally forgot I made it afterwards.
Yes, I was a bit disappointed with the black levels of the Vive and the contrast improved after using the patcher. Couldn't do an A/B test though. I'll test it again when there's another NVidia driver update. I was quite surprised that it still made a change on my monitors.
Wow, I didn't even notice this setting (coming from a very old GTX460). I have no idea what it was set to before I used the patch, but I just checked and it is set to full range. You couldn't change the Vive output that way though.
Oh and people online have mentioned that displayport gave them better contrast/black levels than HDMI. Though apparently displayport has other problems.
Here's a discussion about it on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4jz0zd/just_found_out_my_nvidia_rgb_was_clamped_fixed/
Yes, I was a bit disappointed with the black levels of the Vive and the contrast improved after using the patcher. Couldn't do an A/B test though. I'll test it again when there's another NVidia driver update. I was quite surprised that it still made a change on my monitors.
Wow, I didn't even notice this setting (coming from a very old GTX460). I have no idea what it was set to before I used the patch, but I just checked and it is set to full range. You couldn't change the Vive output that way though.
Oh and people online have mentioned that displayport gave them better contrast/black levels than HDMI. Though apparently displayport has other problems.
Here's a discussion about it on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4jz0zd/just_found_out_my_nvidia_rgb_was_clamped_fixed/
Has anyone tried interfacing with OpenVR from C++ or something like that? I've got it rendering to the headset, but the projection is off. With the standard monitor view matrix and eye view matrices, objects become less converged the further out they are. When I apply the eye projection matrices, nothing is visibile. Closest thing to a hello world is 2000 lines and i can't find a real tutorial.
Nice! Gotta check this out when I get home.
Wowfunhappy
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from the thread it sounds like this only works without Direct Mode? That makes more sense.
ArtHands
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The Freedom Locomotion demo is really good. It took me a minute to realize how the pointing + touchpad directions worked, but once that was in I had a blast. Climbing is especially effective. I'm not the most susceptible to simulation sickness, but this felt very comfortable all-around.
The only nitpicks I have are that I'd like some relatively motion-intense options, namely one to simply press and hold to move without head motion. Of course, that'd go against the physical angle and be way more sickness-inducing for most, so I get not wanting to include it. Along the same lines, running off the giant robot makes me want a jump button, lol.
I noticed this UE4 bug affecting the demo, but you can only really tell when falling from tall heights.
The only nitpicks I have are that I'd like some relatively motion-intense options, namely one to simply press and hold to move without head motion. Of course, that'd go against the physical angle and be way more sickness-inducing for most, so I get not wanting to include it. Along the same lines, running off the giant robot makes me want a jump button, lol.
I noticed this UE4 bug affecting the demo, but you can only really tell when falling from tall heights.
GuitarAtomik
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I'm kind of mixed on it. I think the implementation is pretty immersive, but at the same time, I find it pretty tiring. I also found myself stopping a little too far away from things I was trying to get to and was itching for like a little nudge forward option. In reality, I could just walk forward to do that, but it didn't feel natural to do that in concert with the jog in place motion. I do really like the implementation of grabbing/climbing though. For example, using the grab motion on the table to pull yourself a bit forward was pretty intuitive.
I TOTALLY agree about the jumping. In the simple city environment, I climbed up on one of the rooftops and started jogging to the next one and I was dying to be able to jump to the next rooftop. Then I started thinking about how cool it would be to do a Mirror's Edge type game where you could run and jump between rooftops and be able to use the grabbing mechanic to catch ledges. Someone needs to do that.
Ok, this is really interesting IMHO:
Valve is apparently building an automated production line in the US for the new lighthouses, like the one they have for Steam controllers (which is seriously impressive).
If this succeeds, I assume it would open up the possibility of buying those at a good price from Valve -- and further down the road, maybe them building the alternative controllers on their own too.
Valve is apparently building an automated production line in the US for the new lighthouses, like the one they have for Steam controllers (which is seriously impressive).
If this succeeds, I assume it would open up the possibility of buying those at a good price from Valve -- and further down the road, maybe them building the alternative controllers on their own too.
Zalusithix
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Sounds to me that this isn't a "maybe" or even that further down the line. I had always assumed that Valve was going to manufacture the stuff shown at dev days anyhow. They created an open standard VR system. Why wouldn't they produce some peripherals for it if it was within their capabilities?Gabe Newell said:
Zalusithix
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They make enough money from Steam to not be overly concerned about hardware profits. One of the reasons they can afford to manufacture hardware here in the US in the first place.
As for HMD production, I don't see them ever getting directly into that. That would put them in competition with other manufacturers within the lighthouse VR space. They can, however, easily create controllers and lighthouses to expand the ecosystem and provide options for people. I imagine their goal is to have high end turn-key solutions like the Vive available, but also cheaper headset only solutions where you could add on tracked controllers after the fact.
GuitarAtomik
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Climbey is heavier on the climbing part (for obvious reasons) than what I'm dreaming of. I'm thinking of something with a gameplay loop closer to Mirror's Edge or maybe Crackdown. More about keeping, or at least allowing, a constant flow of movement through an environment.
Also I'm not going to lie. I can't get over Climbey having literally zero art direction lol.
TharpDaddy
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I wonder how bad motion sickness would be in Mirror's Edge. It seems perfect for VR if not for that since it seems to really focus on the first person feel, like looking down and seeing your body, seeing your legs when you slide, the movement sway when running. That game (or the first one, never played Catalyst) is really good at giving the impression that you're Faith. I could be totally off but that seems like it'd translate well into that immersive VR feel.
Wowfunhappy
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Off topic, but you should really give Catalyst a try if you liked Mirror's Edge. The game got much more crap than it deserved on Neogaf, and even the people who think it deserved said crap will admit that it captures the feel of the original.
I really want someone to make a proper VR mod for at least one of the two games. I'm sure it would make some people motion sick, but I'm immune and I want to play it.
You know what else, I was playing with it again last night and I can't for the life of me see this "black smear" people talk about. Whereas I can DEFINITELY see that awful speckled not-black in most versions of SteamVR.
If Valve is going to talk about openness and configurability and hack-ability, they really need to add an option for this. Really strange decision on their part.
Zalusithix
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Seeing your body do all sorts of things that it isn't in real life is actually a way to reduce immersion for many people.
TharpDaddy
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Huh, I must be an outlier then. Games where you can actually see that you have a body always makes me feel way more immersed. It's weird and disconcerting for a few minutes to see a body that isn't mine, but after that fades I feel more like i'm in the world as opposed to just being a ghost with hands. Something like the locomotion demo posted earlier would be good for a game like Mirror's Edge. Making you mimic Faith's motion as much as possible could alleviate that. Like if you want to wall run you have to hold out a hand towards the wall, so when you see it mirrored in-game it seems normal. Or have movement be my stepping in place, so the movement seems to match.
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There are a couple of VR games where you have your own VR body, I only have played a few but I usually don't like it. If I only have floating hands, I doesn't feel bad, feels great actually. I guess it's because they are exactly where you expect them to be for the majority of the time you look at them, they always do what you want them to do despite the fact that they are floating hands. But when you attache arms and a torso and legs this all falls apart. I always get jumpscared by my own VR body. For Mirrors Edge it would be even worse because she is sliding and climbing all over the place while the player stands or sits still in one place. Maybe I just havent played a game yet where it was done well enough(?)
LamerDeluxe
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The opinions there differ a bit, I'm only using direct mode.
Wowfunhappy
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I don't like having a VR body AT ALL. It never lines up properly with real me.
One exception is Invasion, it worked there. I think it helps that you're so fat.
One exception is Invasion, it worked there. I think it helps that you're so fat.
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