Huge Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch Retcon in Axis #7 (SPOILERS)

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I hope by the end of all this, they reveal that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are only half-siblings, and Quicksilver's father is an inhuman while Scarlet Witch's father is a demon. Let's go all the way with convoluted shit! Yeaaaaaah!!!
Preparing for the inevitable "technically not really incest" love story
 
I hope by the end of all this, they reveal that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are only half-siblings, and Quicksilver's father is an inhuman while Scarlet Witch's father is a demon. Let's go all the way with convoluted shit! Yeaaaaaah!!!

Aren't they twins though? Their mom banged two dudes in one night and got pregnant twice? I like it.
 
Ultimate already did that except it was for sure incest.

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Lol I can only laugh

I hope by the end of all this, they reveal that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are only half-siblings, and Quicksilver's father is an inhuman while Scarlet Witch's father is a demon. Let's go all the way with convoluted shit! Yeaaaaaah!!!

Been done

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Did you ever read Inhumans?

No, I just said it for the laffs. Yes, I've read them and I've never liked the concept, the characters or way they've been used. I mean, Black Bolt is basically the ultimate jobber in the 616. When somebody has to show they're really badass, they do bad things to Blackagar Boltogon (lol).
 
I can take the stupid "MAGNETO NOT YOUR FATHER" retcon for the sake of distancing from X-Men, I won't take the "not even mutants!" retcon because thats going against 50 years of story that says otherwise from stuff like Cerebro to straight up fucking medical testings.


Also, weekly reminder AXIS is a low point for comics stupidity over the past few years and its just a gigantic toilet at this point for shit to collect in.

The death of Ultimate Peter Parker and the Reboot of Tim Drake pretty much killed my interest in comics, came back briefly for Scarlet Spider..then I was done.

You got good taste son with Scarlet Spider. Give Superior Foes of Spider-Man a read.
 
No, I just said it for the laffs. Yes, I've read them and I've never liked the concept, the characters or way they've been used. I mean, Black Bolt is basically the ultimate jobber in the 616. When somebody has to show they're really badass, they do bad things to Blackagar Boltogon (lol).

Oh man. Silver Surfer cant even job well enough to retain the jobbing title. What does he have left, WW?
 
Folks act like Quicksilver haven't been sending child support checks to Attlan on the first of every month for the last 30 years.
 
As a comic fan this is mildly irritating, but this is finally going to shut one of my mates up. He has been banging on about Scarlet witch and Quicksilver not being the true versions of the characters in Age of Ultron because of the Magneto connection and that they would be rubbish in the film. Can't wait to see his face when I tell him this.
 
As a comic fan this is mildly irritating, but this is finally going to shut one of my mates up. He has been banging on about Scarlet witch and Quicksilver not being the true versions of the characters in Age of Ultron because of the Magneto connection and that they would be rubbish in the film. Can't wait to see his face when I tell him this.

He'll probably be more upset now, because this is Marvel trying to force the comics to match the films, for better or worse.
 
DC had a very successful reboot in the late 80s and a blah one in the 2010s.

I'm one that really thinks the comics should be rebooted. They're getting harder and harder for newbies to pick up (though I will say that with the internet it's easier to look that information back up) and they're really getting away from their original, usually brilliant identities.
 
well quicksilver got put in the terrigen mists recently so maybe he's an inhuman...Wanda? Who knows...

Heh. I wonder if people think all mutants are gonna be hit with the terrigen mists to get marvel out of The fox contract?
 
DC had a very successful reboot in the late 80s and a blah one in the 2010s.

I'm one that really thinks the comics should be rebooted. They're getting harder and harder for newbies to pick up (though I will say that with the internet it's easier to look that information back up) and they're really getting away from their original, usually brilliant identities.

Crisis

Zero Hour

Hypertime

Infinitie Crisis (in which they were reconning the reboot as it was rebooting with Mister Mind)

Flashpoint.

We can't Cuban B that man.
 
The "Not Mutants" comes off a little offensive when you think about it. Considering Marvel has always pushed the comparison between the Mutant struggle with the Civil Rights movement.
 
Crisis

Zero Hour

Hypertime

Infinitie Crisis (in which they were reconning the reboot as it was rebooting with Mister Mind)

Flashpoint.

We can't Cuban B that man.

Well in fairness Crisis and Flashpoint/52 seem to be the only really big retcons/reboots. The others were smaller. Like edits more than reboots.
 
The "Not Mutants" comes off a little offensive when you think about it. Considering Marvel has always pushed the comparison between the Mutant struggle with the Civil Rights movement.

Not really, Quicksilver and Scrarlet Witch barely had anything to do with the stuggle. They always seemed above it. One might even call them New Mutants.
 
So I'm guessing Marvel is throwing a monkey wrench at Fox's plans of using Quicksilver (and maybe Scarlet Witch) in X-Men Apocalypse?
 
Man, I've been trying to get into the larger universe of Marvel, rather than just Iron Man. Marvel Heroes has me yearning for more. However reading about all of this makes me just not want to bother.

Getting into comics is more of a headache than it should be.
 
So I'm guessing Marvel is throwing a monkey wrench at Fox's plans of using Quicksilver (and maybe Scarlet Witch) in X-Men Apocalypse?

You can't retcon a contract.

Man, I've been trying to get into the larger universe of Marvel, rather than just Iron Man. Marvel Heroes has me yearning for more. However reading about all of this makes me just not want to bother.

Getting into comics is more of a headache than it should be.[

Don't read too much into this thread.
 
Just call them "mutates" and be done with it.
Instead for a mutation in the X-gene, it's a mutation in the the "RPC-17"-gene.

Mutates cannot procreate with mutants.
 
Wouldn't someone have noticed they weren't mutants in Age of Apocalypse? I know Wanda bites it early on, but Pietro is one of the main members of the XMen in that timeline. They have to be mutants.
 
Just call them "mutates" and be done with it.
Instead for a mutation in the X-gene, it's a mutation in the the "RPC-17"-gene.

Mutates cannot procreate with mutants.

Why? This way they can bring attention to the Inhumans and start pushing it over mutants. They cant have mutants back, so it's a win/win for them
 
Just call them "mutates" and be done with it.
Instead for a mutation in the X-gene, it's a mutation in the the "RPC-17"-gene.

Mutates cannot procreate with mutants.

That last part would prove problematic.

Man, I've been trying to get into the larger universe of Marvel, rather than just Iron Man. Marvel Heroes has me yearning for more. However reading about all of this makes me just not want to bother.

Getting into comics is more of a headache than it should be.

No it isnt. Dont pay attention to any of this shit, and read on.
 
I had no real issues with Miles and I loved Pichelli's art, decent character but I thought his support cast was very weak, his villains were meh, and every fight was finished with the same move (Venom Blast I think?)..I vaguely remember it also having a lot of problems with it's release schedule too, sometimes several months between issues?

Is
Peter back for good, or is it a fakeout? I recall the Ultimate Universe was meant to be all deaths are final...though they kinda screwed that early with Beast..

He still uses Venom Blast to win every fight (to ridiculous extents as of his latest one) and his support cast is just Ultimate Peter Parker's along with Lego-nerd and Miles's underutilized girlfriend. Plus, the writing has only gotten worse.
 
Not part of the Marvel films/tv? Then time to change the comics.

Yep. Marvel salty as fuck.

But then again: This is why I don't (mostly) pay attention to character background stories and the meta-plot. There's way too much bullshit and retcon-a-retcon's-retcon'ing for my taste.

So I'm guessing Marvel is throwing a monkey wrench at Fox's plans of using Quicksilver (and maybe Scarlet Witch) in X-Men Apocalypse?

Even if that's the case, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were already in Days of Future Past. Surely Fox can continue to use the characters, just rename/tweak their stuff.
 
Yep. Marvel salty as fuck.

But then again: This is why I don't (mostly) pay attention to character background stories and the meta-plot. There's way too much bullshit and retcon-a-retcon's-retcon'ing for my taste.



Even if that's the case, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were already in Days of Future Past. Surely Fox can continue to use the characters, just rename/tweak their stuff.

Much easier to follow creators or ask for past stories that turned out good and read them divorced from the ongoing meta plot in my experience.
 
Wouldn't someone have noticed they weren't mutants in Age of Apocalypse? I know Wanda bites it early on, but Pietro is one of the main members of the XMen in that timeline. They have to be mutants.

Continuity is malleable. If Marvel ever gets back mutants, they will proabably do another retcon.
 
Yep. Marvel salty as fuck.



Even if that's the case, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were already in Days of Future Past. Surely Fox can continue to use the characters, just rename/tweak their stuff.

1.Marvel's well within their rights to do with their properties that which is most advantageous to them and not to their competitors.

2.Bryan Singer said the little girl in DOFP was not Wanda.
 
Wouldn't someone have noticed they weren't mutants in Age of Apocalypse? I know Wanda bites it early on, but Pietro is one of the main members of the XMen in that timeline. They have to be mutants.



AoA is a reality where Apocalypse actually accomplishes something....lol so ignore it.
 
It gives those who are getting into comics the perception that they were never mutants or Magneto's kids, thus making the ignorant ones believe Fox is messing with the source material more than they really are.

not sure where you're getting the "they aren't mutants" bit from. All Axis #7 says is that they aren't magneto's kids.

which isn't even that big of a deal, considering how long they went back and forth on whether or not Lorna Dane was Magneto's kid or not.

edit: in fact, retconning both of them into inhumans doesn't even work, for many, many reasons. Inhumans have to be exposed to terrigen mists to gain powers, and neither one of them did. Both have been confirmed as carrying X-genes multiple times. Quicksilver actually *has a child* with an inhuman, and this caused all sorts of problems when said child turned out to be neither mutant, nor inhuman, but baseline human in "blood ties." "No more mutants" depowered quicksilver right along with 99% of the mutant population, and didn't touch inhumans.
 
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