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I don't see anything changing in the near future -Miyamoto

Zenny

Banned
Miyamoto:
At Nintendo, I don't see anything changing drastically in the near future.
I might leave Nintendo to retire someday. I have to consider what I'll be doing when that day comes.
Fishie: How far along is the new Zelda and how long has it been in development?
Miyamoto: The plan is to definitely have a version that you will be able to play to your heart's content by E3 next year.
Fishie: In the Western markets especially, games like Grand Theft Auto, with violent, adult themes have become more popular. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think this trend will continue?
Miyamoto: It's a difficult question for me to answer. All I can say is that this isn't the sort of game Nintendo wants to make.

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If Miyamoto himself doesn't see any big changes at Nintendo in the near future.
Does this mean they will continue on their current downhill slide ?
 

commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
Question miyamoto to his face and he'll jump on your head.

Nintendo operates on their own wavelength and continue to see nice profits, doubt they'll change. I mean, if they just started doing GTA and things like that, then what would separate them from xbox or ps2?
 
commish said:
Question miyamoto to his face and he'll jump on your head.

Nintendo operates on their own wavelength and continue to see nice profits, doubt they'll change. I mean, if they just started doing GTA and things like that, then what would separate them from xbox or ps2?

They could still develop all of those games they've been making, they'd just have a GTA style game too.
 

Mashing

Member
They only time Nintendo will change is when their pocketbook takes a hit... they still make tons and tons of money doing things the old fashioned way.

I don't like it much, but that's the way it is... why do people have to whine about it all the time?
 

Zenny

Banned
commish said:
Question miyamoto to his face and he'll jump on your head.
No he doesn't, he has heart problems and side steps.
He is always careful in what he says and likes to talk about his personal life rather than what we really want to know.
Frankly, I'm tired of him saying he has never seen the PSP and he never plays other console games.
Even Mr. Gates loves his Macintosh.
 

commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
Why doesn't Nintendo do online?

Just imagine an online pokemon, Nintendo would be number 1 among consoles in about a week. Online Mario Kart? Nintendo is dumb but profitable
 

Chrono

Banned
commish said:
Why doesn't Nintendo do online?

Just imagine an online pokemon, Nintendo would be number 1 among consoles in about a week. Online Mario Kart? Nintendo is dumb but profitable


wait for space world. Or Revolution.

Just wait. It's not that hard once you get used to it. Trust me, I'm a Nintendo fan.
 

Trevelyon

Member
"TNL: So far, a lot of the elements we saw in the new Zelda are very reminiscent of Ocarina of Time: Link's back on Epona, we saw the castle, and it looks like the Lost Woods are in there. I know you guys are being very quiet about where you're going with everything, but is Link returning Hyrule or could this possibly be the true sequel to Ocarina of Time?

Miyamoto: How do you know that horse was Epona?"

:O
 
SolidSnakex said:
They could still develop all of those games they've been making, they'd just have a GTA style game too.

If Nintendo wanted edge I'd say build a big Zelda type game except not set in the traditional 'Nintendo Universe', have it be satirical like Conker's Bad Fur Day. I think they'd do better poking fun at stuff like that, within their range and with cute characters, than at gangster culture.
 
Zenny said:
Sourced from TNL

miyamoto-groupt.jpg

If Miyamoto himself doesn't see any big changes at Nintendo in the near future.
Does this mean they will continue on their current downhill slide ?


I think when you actually take it in context, he seems to be just talking about staying with Nintendo in general, not a commentary about what's happening at Nintendo. I mean they didn't ask him about the future of Nintendo, they asked about himself. He talks about looking to new things in his personal life (with his kids leaving, looking into new hobbies and all), but in regards to his relationship with Nintendo he's not looking to change that part of his life.
 

ChrisReid

Member
FitzOfRage said:
I think when you actually take it in context, he seems to be just talking about staying with Nintendo in general, not a commentary about what's happening at Nintendo. I mean they didn't ask him about the future of Nintendo, they asked about himself. He talks about looking to new things in his personal life (with his kids leaving, looking into new hobbies and all), but in regards to his relationship with Nintendo he's not looking to change that part of his life.

Exactly.. he's saying his role in Nintendo won't change too much.. He's not talking about Nintendo's market role or anything like that.
 

MrCheez

President/Creative Director of Grumpyface Studios
Zenny said:
Miyamoto:
At Nintendo, I don't see anything changing drastically in the near future.
I might leave Nintendo to retire someday. I have to consider what I'll be doing when that day comes.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 

Gahiggidy

My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
SolidSnakex said:
They could still develop all of those games they've been making, they'd just have a GTA style game too.
I want a Nintendo made GTA game about as much as I want a Rockstar made Super Mario game.
 

Zenny

Banned
Solidsnake is right, they could still develope those type of games.
Nothing is stopping them except themselves.

Most Nintendo fans would kill for a next generation GTA styled game with Mario and the gang.
Forget the squirt gun. Mario needs to mature.
Bring on Killer Mario ! with an uzi and bullet proof vest.

Evil Mario would rock ! And the story could develope soumehow where Mario loses his memory when he eats the wrong mushroom.
Do it Total Recall style.
 

Jonnyram

Member
SolidSnakex said:
They could still develop all of those games they've been making, they'd just have a GTA style game too.

Yeah, and Disney should start making official Mickey Mouse porn.
 
Fishie: In the Western markets ... games like Grand Theft Auto ... have become more popular. What are your thoughts on this?
Miyamoto: ... this isn't the sort of game Nintendo wants to make.
gg nintendo
 

SantaC

Member
Right now, at R&D, we're simply trying to fine-tune our games as much as possible. We had to delay Pikmin 2, but that's because I wanted this game to be of the high quality standards that Nintendo is known for

It paid off.
 

Scrow

Still Tagged Accordingly
Zenny said:
If Miyamoto himself doesn't see any big changes at Nintendo in the near future.
Does this mean they will continue on their current downhill slide ?
No. The world will change around to Nintendo's way of thinking, and what we consider "down" will become "up".
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
FitzOfRage said:
I think when you actually take it in context, he seems to be just talking about staying with Nintendo in general, not a commentary about what's happening at Nintendo.

I agree with you. Original poster is taking this quote out of context.

Even if he was being asked about future change generally with Nintendo, I'd be more interesting in seeing what Iwata had to say about that rather than Miyamoto (no offense to Miyamoto). He's the one with in charge of the overall vision and strategy for the company. As far as I can see, Iwata has effected noticeable change at Nintendo since taking over, and I imagine he'll continue to do so going forward, as he sees fit.

And Nintendo's in a downhill slide? You might want to qualify that. In the home console market, their marketshare has been shrinking, but overall they have a sizeable portion of the videogames market in their palm (hello gameboy).
 

SantaC

Member
gofreak said:
I agree with you. Original poster is taking this quote out of context.

Even if he was being asked about future change generally with Nintendo, I'd be more interesting in seeing what Iwata had to say about that rather than Miyamoto (no offense to Miyamoto). He's the one with in charge of the overall vision and strategy for the company. As far as I can see, Iwata has effected noticeable change at Nintendo since taking over, and I imagine he'll continue to do so going forward, as he sees fit.

And Nintendo's in a downhill slide? You might want to qualify that. In the home console market, their marketshare has been shrinking, but overall they have a sizeable portion of the videogames market in their palm (hello gameboy).

yes the quote is taken out of context, because Miyamoto is talking about himself.

TNL: What do you see for yourself in the future?

Miyamoto: My children are now 17 and 18 years old. Soon they'll be off to college, then after about five years or so they will be assuming their places in the workforce. I sometimes wonder what I'll do when they're gone. So far, my priority has been to be a family person. But they'll be leaving soon, so I need to think about what I'm going to be doing after that.

One thing I've been doing nowadays is practicing musical instruments. I've already mentioned my garage band back in college, and my concert hall performance. My wife sings sometimes, so maybe she'll join me in a band. It's my secret mission! [Laughs.]

At Nintendo, I don't see anything changing drastically in the near future. I might leave Nintendo to retire someday. I have to consider what I'll be doing when that day comes.

Of course, when I challenge myself to do something new, that's always fun. About five years ago I started a garden, and two years ago I got a puppy. I loved the experience of training the puppy and watching it grow. And, at my home, I study music. I made a personal music studio in my garage, all by myself. I also made a big kennel for the dog. I love those sorts of do-it-yourself projects. Making things with my own hands has always fascinated me.



TNL: Is Nintendo a company in transition?
Miyamoto: Yes
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Wow, Zenny, that was a pretty blatant misrepresentation of what he was saying. Shame on you! *shakes fist*

edit - this thread really seems like bait to me..
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
???

The quote " I don't see anything changing in the near future" is NOT related to Nintendo as a whole, but Miyamoto's position there! That's not arrogance...just his personal viewpoint on his own situation. God.
 

SantaC

Member
gofreak said:
???

The quote " I don't see anything changing in the near future" is NOT related to Nintendo as a whole, but Miyamoto's position there! That's not arrogance...just his personal viewpoint on his own situation. God.

IAWTP
 

BuG

Member
SantaCruZer said:
Right now, at R&D, we're simply trying to fine-tune our games as much as possible. We had to delay Pikmin 2, but that's because I wanted this game to be of the high quality standards that Nintendo is known for
It paid off.
"A delayed game is only delayed until it's released. A game that is rushed is rushed forever." Or something like that. :)
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Hmm..interesting...*again* a line is drawn between DS and the next home system:

you know Nintendo's always researching new hardware and new styles of hardware, and I think that one thing that's really going to influence the direction that the next system takes will be how people react to the DS and the kinds of new features the DS introduces.

Hmm..
 

lordmrw

Member
BuG said:
"A delayed game is only delayed until it's released. A game that is rushed is rushed forever." Or something like that. :)


I though it was something like "a delayed game is late only when its released, but a bad game is a bad game forever." If not, then that sums it up nicely. In a way, I get the feeling that there are people in NOA that would really like to make changes and actually compete better, but NCL holds a tight reign over them. I say they let them go at it like Sega of America did back in the 16-bit days.
 

AniHawk

Member
gofreak said:
???

The quote " I don't see anything changing in the near future" is NOT related to Nintendo as a whole, but Miyamoto's position there! That's not arrogance...just his personal viewpoint on his own situation. God.

Yep.

Topic = flamebait

They don't do it nearly enough.

I say instead of creating a GTA clone, they should create a GTA replacement- whatever that might be. That's what all developers should be trying to do right now.
 

einhard

Member
Zenny said:
Solidsnake is right, they could still develope those type of games.
Nothing is stopping them except themselves.

Most Nintendo fans would kill for a next generation GTA styled game with Mario and the gang.
Forget the squirt gun. Mario needs to mature.
Bring on Killer Mario ! with an uzi and bullet proof vest.

Evil Mario would rock ! And the story could develope soumehow where Mario loses his memory when he eats the wrong mushroom.
Do it Total Recall style.
Thats gotta be the worst game idea i have ever heard...
 

Zenny

Banned
ok, so it was bait. And you all took a bite ;)

Seriously, I know the comment was taken out of context.
And I still can't see how Revolution will make any impact at all.
The only thing that's got me pumped is VGA out.

It will just be the same old Nintendo, same old games, better graphics card.
Sony has the whole next gen console arena sewn up unless they do something fatally wrong.

Guess it's wait till E3 all over again.
And YES, Miyamoto's interviews have been boring for a long time, as he never reveals what is happening at Nintendo, rightfully so. . . there are compeditors in this world
. . . but hey tell us something new for a change. It's all the same which was said at E3.

You had your chance Fishie.
Very generic questions asked I'm afraid, and you were owned by a horse.
 

wazoo

Member
AniHawk said:
I say instead of creating a GTA clone, they should create a GTA replacement- whatever that might be. That's what all developers should be trying to do right now.

You are right. The next GTA-like phenomemon will not be a GTA clone. it will be something completely different.
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Zenny said:
And I still can't see how Revolution will make any impact at all.

Perhaps this is because NINTENDO HAVEN'T SHOWN ANYTHING ABOUT IT YET? Yep, let's not even give companies the chance to show of their goods before making our minds up.


Zenny said:
It will just be the same old Nintendo, same old games, better graphics card.

This is too funny..if you know anything of what Nintendo has been saying about the next generation, you'd not be making such assumptions. The one thing they HAVE said is that they CAN'T simply rely on better graphics alone. I expect at the very least a significantly different way of controlling games that what Nintendo have done before (if not also Sony & Microsoft). That alone would be a great differentiating factor between this gen and the next.
 
AniHawk said:
I say instead of creating a GTA clone, they should create a GTA replacement- whatever that might be. That's what all developers should be trying to do right now.

That's work too, i've always said they don't need to make a GTA clone. Just make more games that are simply made for adult gamers and make their userbase bigger. I'd say buy a few teams this generation and have them set up just for creating those types of games, Nintendo never has to make them just let their 2nd parties do it.
 
well, I think the GTA style games makes for a pretty diluted experience especialy now the me too clones have surfaced. Its definitely on the way out so I'll take whatever fills its shoes
 

Laurent

Member
My reply to this matter, has taken from NPD July Hardware numbers and some interesting facts thread...

Grubdog said:
I don't want Nintendo changing like that just because people are idiots though. The games are there, they just need to advertise them better.
People aren't idiots, they just know what they want. They want games that PS2 and X-Box offers. So they buy those consoles. If Nintendo wants to sell consoles, they need to be competitive. But I don't think that's what they want. They want to keep the market share they already have by not risking much. That's clever but not as lucrative as it could be.
 
TheGreenGiant said:
Its definitely on the way out so I'll take whatever fills its shoes

I guess GTA really is the next Pokemon. The game that's so popular that haters keep saying with each new version that it's on its way out despite it keeping its popularity with each version.
 

Laurent

Member
SolidSnakex said:
I guess GTA really is the next Pokemon. The game that's so popular that haters keep saying with each new version that it's on its way out despite it keeping its popularity with each version.
I think that popular games are never on their way out, but developers need to add important gameplay elements to justify the new version... Nintendo has always done that with Mario, but not really with Pokémon. Look at Konami with Metal Gear Solid or Capcom that finally learned with Resident Evil Ø or 4...
 
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