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[Stuart360]

Psp went on to sell just over 80mil.

vita theres no exact measurement but from i read it was around 13-15mil

Damn PSP was a beast!.

 

[Bryank75]

I have 3 Switches in my house but the build quality is not great. I never owned a Vita, I did have a PSP though....

Look up how much the screens from the Switch alone cost... so so cheap, it's ridiculous. But it does what it says on the box. So I'm not complaining too much. Great games make it worth having.

 

[Codes 208]

Damn PSP was a beast!.

Did better than i ever expected it would. Prior to the ps4's dominance it was eighth best selling system of all time.

 

[partime]

Replace the touchpad with 2 shoulder buttons, even if the back arches it's still way more practical.

 

[Hendrick's]

Just a testament to how bad the Switch is. Five years newer, one fifth the console.

 

[DESTROYA]

Just a testament to how bad the Switch is. Five years newer, one fifth the console.

Sales say Switch is pretty good.

 

[jshackles]

"higher quality system" is pretty subjective though.

Build quality? I'll give you that - the first gen Vita I've got is an absolute tank. Unfortunately I accidentally had mine in a bag I took on an airplane last year and the case I had it in wasn't zipped. It shuffled around and got scuffed all to hell and back - thankfully the screen is still in relatively good shape but damn it if makes me mad every time I look at it that I was so careless. In all fairness, I doubt the Switch would have survived at all given the same set of conditions.

The Switch has the Vita beat in a number of areas though: namely the game quality / variety and memory card costs. Thankfully I was able to hack my Vita to the point that I could use a Micro SD card with it that sort of mitigates the latter issue.

 

[Hendrick's]

Sales say Switch is pretty good.

The games are. The tech is garbage.

 

[Potato Chip PRO]

I just finished Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1 & 2 and they look great but sigma 2s framerates makes me wanna cry

 

[Klayzer]

Lol. Where do you get this stuff from.

 

[DESTROYA]

The games are. The tech is garbage.

Thats not really true, Switch hardware is just good enough for what it is and Nintendo's vision of a hybrid console is pretty spot on from what was available at the time.

 

[Gamernyc78]

I enjoyed my Vita more than my switch and Def felt more premium and looked it.

 

[trikster40]

I still play my Vita almost daily. I thought Sony did a good job of supporting it, although it definitely did need more first party offerings.

Definitely my favorite handheld of all time.

 

[Hendrick's]

Thats not really true, Switch hardware is just good enough for what it is and Nintendo's vision of a hybrid console is pretty spot on from what was available at the time.

I disagree. The games are hurt by the tech and look like crap. The screen in handheld mode is atrocious.

 

[Gamernyc78]

I still play my Vita almost daily. I thought Sony did a good job of supporting it, although it definitely did need more first party offerings.

Definitely my favorite handheld of all time.

Tons of hours into soul Sacrifice!! Even enjoyed unit 13. Killzone on it was sublime and years ahead of its time.

 

[ULTROS!]

I play my Vita even until now. It's a great system to play PSP games and PSone classics.

 

[DESTROYA]

I disagree. The games are hurt by the tech and look like crap. The screen in handheld mode is atrocious.

Most people would not agree with that statement at all, but hey your entitled to your opinion.

 

[Fret Runner]

Vita with game card slot memory hack, Retroarch, adrenaline and Pkgj

 

[hououinkyouma00]

I still play my Vita all the time. Currently playing through House in Fata Morgana again, then I have multiple games queued up as well. It plays 6 of my top 10 games of all time (P4G/Steins;gate/Fata Morgana/MGS3/Persona3/ChronoTrigger) and the build quality is great.
I find it very comfortable to use and way better as a handheld then the Switch.

Hell, I'll be buying another when I go to Japan in April.

 

[Vitacat]

Vita with game card slot memory hack, Retroarch, adrenaline and Pkgj

I still need to hack mine. I've kept it on 3.60 all this time.

And yeah, it's still better feeling and designed than the Switch IMO. And I own both a launch day Switch and a Lite. The Switch has an incredible library now, though, and is more powerful (as you'd expect since it came much later).

 

[Allnamestakenlol]

OLED Vita is a beautiful thing.

 

[JSoup]

It's an ok little system. I enjoy picking away at trophy lists on it every now and then, normally as a cool down before bed. I'm always afraid I'm either going to drop the little thing and shatter the screen or one of those spindly toothpicks it calls analog sticks are going to break.

Actually, since we have a Vita thread going now, does anyone know of a good case? I've seen people using these cases that look for all the world like phone cases, but are large enough for the Vita without compressing the controls.

 

[FStubbs]

I disagree. The games are hurt by the tech and look like crap. The screen in handheld mode is atrocious.

In 2017 you literally were not going to be able to build a handheld more powerful than the Switch, so I'm not sure how the Switch is crap and the Vita was not from a tech perspective.

 

[Hendrick's]

In 2017 you literally were not going to be able to build a handheld more powerful than the Switch, so I'm not sure how the Switch is crap and the Vita was not from a tech perspective.

Maybe, but it sure feels cheap and outdated today.

 

[MagnesG]

Maybe, but it sure feels cheap and outdated today.

Compared to what? Alienware UFO?

Regardless, you're never gonna get much more for $300. Going up further will only hike up the price unsuitable for general consumer or worse, having concession like Vita mmc.

 

[Hendrick's]

Compared to what? Alienware UFO?

Regardless, you're never gonna get much more for $300. Going up further will only hike up the price unsuitable for general consumer or worse, having concession like Vita mmc.

Honestly, we all have more powerful phones with better screens. Just give me joycons I can attach and a way to play the games.

 

[ethomaz]

It was always a premium device.

Sadly the software side was barely supported by 3rd.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

I still use mine regularly. Honestly it's a PRIME JRPG system. All the PS1 classics, PSP and Vita titles it's just so perfect. I still got a shit load of games to play on it too.

Never owned a Switch but the library is better on Switch but it be like that sometimes.

 

[Chairman Tickles]

Unless you're into anime or speak japanese there really isn't much of a library on vita, even after all these years. It's a good emulation machine, but Switch is already arguably better in that regard thanks to the rapid pace of homebrew.

I sold my vita for more than I bought it years later. Good deal.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

I'd say the Vita died for the following reasons, in no particular order:

• Price. Sure, it was $250, the same as the 3DS. (And for the record, the 3DS stumbled out of the gate at that price as well. Nintendo having to prop up the 3DS would be a bullet point for the Wiii U's failure). But it wasn't really $250 because you had to factor in the expensive proprietary memory cards. So it was too expensive for a handheld.
• First party games. Nintendo's top teams worked on handheld games as well as their console games. (In fact, Nintendo's 2nd biggest franchise is handheld focused with console entries as the spinoffs). Sony has more/bigger first party teams than Nintendo, but the top ones refused to support the device, and the games that ended up releasing either were low tier garbage games, or ended up ported up to the consoles (PS3/4) anyway.
• Speaking of games, go back to the PSP. It started out ahead of the DS due to its superior specs, then fell way behind when the DS took off. That is, until Monster Hunter exploded on PSP and rocketed the console up. Nintendo (uncharacteristically) money-hatted Monster Hunter, so it went over to 3DS instead of to Vita, so Sony lost the key killer app for their handheld ecosystem.
• Lack of interest from Sony - any of these could've been overcome if Sony had decided to put muscle behind keeping the platform alive. But it was clear very early on that Sony lost interest in the Vita. Indies and companies like Idea Factory kept the device on life support, but without Sony showing any interest in their own platform, it was doomed.

One thing you CAN give the Vita, though, is that the roots of the PS4's success can be found in Vita. Vita did the following:

• It was not designed to push multimedia. Unlike every other Sony platform before it (especially the PSP which did take a hit from mobile), the Vita was not designed to push media, and was not pushing a new media format. Its main overriding purpose was gaming. This was something that carried over to the PS4, which also focused primarily on games and did not push a new media format.
• It used more commoditzed hardware. This was the first time Sony didn't create something crazy like Emotion Engine or Cell. Vita had pretty standard components which made it easy to develop against. This carried over to the PS4 which is basically a dumbed down x86 PC, but a known quantity that developers can hit the ground running with.

Add Jim Ryan to the list... This bastard dont Bring more Japanese games to western

 

[Shouta]

My OLED Vita is still running quite nicely.

 

[trikster40]

It's an ok little system. I enjoy picking away at trophy lists on it every now and then, normally as a cool down before bed. I'm always afraid I'm either going to drop the little thing and shatter the screen or one of those spindly toothpicks it calls analog sticks are going to break.

Actually, since we have a Vita thread going now, does anyone know of a good case? I've seen people using these cases that look for all the world like phone cases, but are large enough for the Vita without compressing the controls.

get one of those holders that add 4 buttons to it. Gives you more grip, and makes remote play fantastic. Gives you true L2/R2/L3/R3 buttons instead of using rear touch pad. This is the one I have:

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

I've been thinking of doing that actually. Do you know where I can find an idiot proof guide to that?

It takes 30 minutes to do. But permamod it and buy yourself the sd adapter since your memory card is literally a ticking timebomb.

ALSO get a bigger sd card. I have around 36 plus or so physical Vita games and (other digital older games ps1/psp that I got on the ps3) after putting them on my sd card well you see how much space that takes up.

 

[MagnesG]

Honestly, we all have more powerful phones with better screens. Just give me joycons I can attach and a way to play the games.

You gotta consider the battery and heat issues, phones unless being built dedicatedly for gaming would never surpass a gaming device like Switch/Vita - even 3ds for the whole package, especially with their higher price.

 

[nordique]

Vita was a nice chunk of plastic yes. But it had no games for me, the custom memory cards etc it was an expensive beast to own

I'm happy I sold mine while it retained value, but I wish it had the software lineup the PSP had

Switch is a far superior system, looks be damned.

 

[TheWanderingOgre]

I have been saying it for YEARS: the Vita is the most premium console ever made, and not just of the handheld variety.

Now that Shenmue is continuing, one of the gravest sins of the medium is how we did not support enough the PS Vita, starting with their makers.

 

[ExpandKong]

Fuck it Imma try to mod mine again. Gonna follow the guide at https://vita.hacks.guide/, but do I need to worry about my account getting flagged and locked by Sony and losing access to all my digital shit? I'd rather avoid that happening at all costs.

Also I'm seeing different SD2Vita adapters on Amazon from different manufacturers, it looks like? They're all super cheap, can someone recommend one? Worried about buying a janky one.

6 of my top 10 games of all time (P4G/Steins;gate/Fata Morgana/MGS3/Persona3/ChronoTrigger)

You, I think we can be friends.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Fuck it Imma try to mod mine again. Gonna follow the guide at https://vita.hacks.guide/, but do I need to worry about my account getting flagged and locked by Sony and losing access to all my digital shit? I'd rather avoid that happening at all costs.

Also I'm seeing different SD2Vita adapters on Amazon from different manufacturers, it looks like? They're all super cheap, can someone recommend one? Worried about buying a janky one.



You, I think we can be friends.

I play with a modded Vita on a spoofed firmware and was chatting with people on psn a while back. Still not banned.

AS FOR WHAT I USE OR RECOMMEND CONCERNING WHICH SD2VITA ADAPTER TO USE? This one.

 

[ExpandKong]

I play with a modded Vita on a spoofed firmware and was chatting with people on psn a while back. Still not banned.

AS FOR WHAT I USE OR RECOMMEND CONCERNING WHICH SD2VITA ADAPTER TO USE? This one.

They're really this cheap? How did I not hear about doing this sooner?

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

They're really this cheap? How did I not hear about doing this sooner?

Idk honestly because in every Vita thread we have had to date people always mention modding it and it's benefits. THAT BEING SAID do it sloooooooooooooooowly and watch videos before you do it if you haven't modded a system before.

 

[Soadi]

I play with a modded Vita on a spoofed firmware and was chatting with people on psn a while back. Still not banned.

AS FOR WHAT I USE OR RECOMMEND CONCERNING WHICH SD2VITA ADAPTER TO USE? This one.

Sorry I'm kinda new on the Vita side, for what do you use this for? Does it replace the original Sony's memory card's?

 

[ExpandKong]

Idk honestly because in every Vita thread we have had to date people always mention modding it and it's benefits. THAT BEING SAID do it sloooooooooooooooowly and watch videos before you do it if you haven't modded a system before.

I've done quite a few Wiis and 3DSs in my time so I'm not super duper worried. Just always antsy in general when modding Sony systems for some reason. Though I did finally softmod my PS3, that was fun.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Sorry I'm kinda new on the Vita side, for what do you use this for? Does it replace the original Sony's memory card's?

You mod your vita first by running a custom firmware and insert an sd card on it before it goes into your gameslot. Yes this replaces the memory card but it also doesn't let you use your physical cards. (which doesn't matter as you can dump your carts before "perm" modding it. OR if you are pirate then google cause I'm not gonna help ya!)

 

[captainraincoat]

Vita was a great handheld but fuck those memory cards......would of probrably been cheaper going down the switch route

Also love the homebrew on this...plays pretty much all the mame stuff

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Am I good to go if I haven't used or updated it since 2013?

Older firmware is better. The hacks guide will tell you NOT to update. Turn your wifi off as soon as you boot your Vita and turn off auto-update in the settings.

Henkaku
Retroarch
Everdrive

In that order (well you can queue everdrive to download). Once you've installed the mods, you literally drag and drop games from your PC to your vita.

There's also a hack so that your DS4 will work with the Vita and a hack so that you can use standard memory cards

 

[DiscoJer]

When I got a Switch Lite, my first thought was that "This is a Vita that doesn't suck".

I was a huge PSP fan, but absolutely despised the Vita. Got more use of it after hacking it, but I'd still rather play PSP games on my PSP, since the OLED screen gave things the wrong colors (for non Vita games)

 

[Soadi]

You mod your vita first by running a custom firmware and insert an sd card on it before it goes into your gameslot. Yes this replaces the memory card but it also doesn't let you use your physical cards. (which doesn't matter as you can dump your carts before "perm" modding it. OR if you are pirate then google cause I'm not gonna help ya!)

Was legit question really, I'm not a big tech guy but got a hold of a Vita a while back when people were saying that it would become extremely hard to purchase one new so bitted the bullet cause always wanted to play some games on it (Persona, Soul Sacrifice and Dragon's Crown mainly) but those memory cards are expensive af that's why I'm asking lol.

 

[ZoolNL]

Part of the problem was that the system wasn't PS3 quality on the go, or even close to it. In terms of hardware was basically a souped up iPhone 4S. It couldn't run graphically intensive games at native resolution from the start, so stuff had to be scaled back. I'd rather have played most of those games on PS3, whereas PSP had all this great software that really felt like it belonged on the system.

Sony also over-designed it. It didn't need that stupid back touch pad or all the cameras or a 3G system with GPSand that weird shitty built in software like Near. All that stuff added to the cost and made it impractical.

This is simply not true and can be proven wrong by starting Virtua Tennis on PSVita. 60fps, all graphics, fine loading et cetera. There were more great ports. Vita was no PS3, but the device was absolutely capable to deliver experiences on the same level (if effort was made).

It's the same with Switch except the Switch do have the right number of buttons.

 

[ZoolNL]

Vita is my least used console. I really have no idea what to play on it.
But it does feel good, like a premium hardware. I dislike the back touch screen though.

It has 1600 games. Must be something you like?

 

[MagnesG]

Sold my modded vita months before SD2VITA publicly sold, got really annoyed when this happened lol. I remember it being really expensive at first, now it was just a couple of bucks.

I'm not gonna go back to the scene though, I think I've already played most of the Vita titles I'm interested in, for PSP it was years ago including those JP translated games, and if I'm really desperate I can always go for PPSSPP on Switch.