Cyberpunk 2077 Looks and Runs Much Better on Nintendo Switch 2 Than Steam Deck, New Footage Confirms

LordOcidax said:
People were laughing here when Cyberpunk rumors running on Switch 2 started… So, the expectations here was the Switch 2 wasn't going to be capable of run the game.
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I don't know, we always new the Switch 2 would have similar tfs to the steam deck. If the steam deck could run Cyberpunk, why wouldn't a similarly spec'd machine be able to run it?
 
Ritsumei2020 said:
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Cyberpunk 2077 Looks and Runs Much Better on Nintendo Switch 2 Than Steam Deck, New Footage Confirms

New Cyberpunk 2077 footage shared online highlights how the demanding game will look and run better on Nintendo Switch 2 than Steam Deck.
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As we all know, the NWS2 is a cheap piece of shit barely more powerful than a gameboy black and white.

Should Valve discount the Steam Deck now to keep up with the NSW2?
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You guys are getting more pathetic by the day.

It's a handheld roughly the same power as a PS4. The device has all of the handheld weaknesses and none of the dedicated console strengths. On the handheld PC front it's a loosing battle given how quickly the Rog Ally, Steamdeck, and Xbox Portable devices will be able to iterate, not to mention it's already a gen behind the SX and PS5.

So what exactly are you all bragging about?
 
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proandrad said:
Because that was the last time the devs optimized the game for the hardware, versus the switch 2 version that is currently being optimized after all the changes.
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It just seems wrong, since the Switch 2 would run the prior version faster as well.

And like I said, this is a fairly common problem these days on the Deck, I read about it weekly. Games updating and running worse.
 
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The version on the switch 2 may be cut back significantly from even 'low' settings compared to PC, which is what the steam deck is running. Only time will tell, but based on the footage so far, it's looking quite impressive.
 
Astray said:
I am completely unsurprised that DF is ok with openly speculating on unfinished software on an unreleased device.

At this point, they are losing credibility by the minute imo.
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DF reputation has been going down the drain since the reveal of Switch 2.

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rodrigolfp said:
This is useless if it's docked mode.
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People do use the Deck docked too. So not really useless. Besides, all things go to plan, I anticipate running Switch 2 docked mode settings, but not docked. Just like with the Switch 1. There's really nothing special about docked mode beyond needing more power, which is no different than the Ally X in terms of power draw.
 
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Minsc said:
It just seems wrong, since the Switch 2 would run the prior version faster as well.

And like I said, this is a fairly common problem these days on the Deck, I read about it weekly. Games updating and running worse.
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You can't with the switch which is part of the pc benefit.
 
proandrad said:
You can't with the switch which is part of the pc benefit.
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Right, but you're not comparing visually similar settings then. So then what's the point? Just to say at worse visuals you can get better framerates? That's pretty common sense, but the point to compare is with similar visuals. And it's a bit of a pain to downgrade too.

Plus the game is incomplete on PC if you downgrade AFAIK, and it will make it super difficult to mod (mods need latest versions), and saves won't be cross-platform compatible either, like in the case of The Witcher 3, if you want to play on Switch 1 and Steam Deck, you can't downgrade the Deck for better performance, as the saves won't work then.
 
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Minsc said:
Right, but you're not comparing visually similar settings then. So then what's the point? Just to say at worse visuals you can get better framerates? That's pretty common sense, but the point to compare is with similar visuals. And it's a bit of a pain to downgrade too.

Plus the game is incomplete on PC if you downgrade AFAIK, and it will make it super difficult to mod (mods need latest versions), and saves won't be cross-platform compatible either, like in the case of The Witcher 3, if you want to play on Switch 1 and Steam Deck, you can't downgrade the Deck for better performance, as the saves won't work then.
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It's not a pain to downgrade, it's right in the property setting in the steam library of the game. And the latest version doesn't look any better than the previous version on steam deck because you would still use the same settings. Why wouldn't you want to see the best version of the steam deck compared to the best version of the switch 2 version?
 
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Minsc said:
People do use the Deck docked too. So not really useless. Besides, all things go to plan, I anticipate running Switch 2 docked mode settings, but not docked. Just like with the Switch 1. There's really nothing special about docked mode beyond needing more power, which is no different than the Ally X in terms of power draw.
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But Switch 2 drops clocks in handheld mode, Deck doesn't.
 
It looks good. The Deck is what it is… not a graphical powerhouse not a slouch for a portable.

The thing is, people can… get this…. Buy both.

There's roughly 17,000 games that run better on Deck. One of you trolls should make that thread. Side by side screenshots of a game running in deck with the Switch side being blank lol
 
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proandrad said:
It's not a pain to downgrade, it's right in the property setting in the steam library of the game. And the latest version doesn't look any better than the previous version on steam deck because you would still use the same settings. Why wouldn't you want to see the best version of the steam deck compared to the best version of the switch 2 version?
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If that's correct, then yes - just for comparison. But I was thinking it added in upgrades? I'd have to search more to see what it actually adds in.

The latest version is still almost always needed for mods to function properly however, and cross-platform saves. So you are still hurting the experience in ways by not using the latest version, and the concession is being made purely due to the Deck's lack of power - on a regular gaming laptop/PC, it's extremely doubtful you'd rollback the version, where there was more than enough power to run it.

rodrigolfp said:
But Switch 2 drops clocks in handheld mode, Deck doesn't.
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Well it can - if you choose it to. But yes, you have full access in handheld mode. However the comparison definitely isn't useless because like I said, there's lots of people who use the Deck docked to play games, and I've seen people use the Switch portably in docked mode, myself included, and I am expecting to be able to do the same with Switch 2 - use the docked performance profiles, portably. Yes it will use more power, but it will be connected to external power, so I don't care about that personally.
 
Minsc said:
nd I am expecting to be able to do the same with Switch 2 - use the docked performance profiles, portably. Yes it will use more power, but it will be connected to external power, so I don't care about that personally.
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You just have to worry about the battery overheating and turning your Switch into an Xbox 360
 
BlackTron said:
You just have to worry about the battery overheating and turning your Switch into an Xbox 360
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Why would that happen? The dock doesn't cool the Switch 2. The dock merely supplies power, and a place for the device to sit, along with passing the hdmi signal out. There will be 3rd party docks, like with Switch 1, and the third party dock makers have said the Switch 2 dock does not cool the Switch 2, but the dock itself.

rodrigolfp said:
With the overclock tools? Will it be as ease as it is on Switch?
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No, you said Switch 2 drops clocks in portable mode - I just replied the Deck CAN drop clocks too, if you choose for it to. But yes, it doesn't normally. Still doesn't invalidate comparing docked performance for someone who would use the devices docked.
 
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Bitstream said:
The version on the switch 2 may be cut back significantly from even 'low' settings compared to PC, which is what the steam deck is running. Only time will tell, but based on the footage so far, it's looking quite impressive.
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Higher than low settings isn't usually needed on such a small screen, at least with modern games.
 
That's great and all but I will never get multiplatform games on Switch 2, this is not why I'm buying Switch 2.

What impress me more is destruction system on DK Bananza. This is type of things I want to see more than just "pretty" graphics.

I can't wait to see Monolith Soft's new game on Switch 2.
 
The Steam Deck videos shared so far are utilising the "Steam Deck" preset, which is actually rather bad optimisation wise. With some tweaks to the settings you can bump up to 800p XeSS Quality and hold a mostly locked 30fps. It looks quite a bit sharper and more stable. If you have the MSI Claw 8 AI+ then you can do 1200p XeSS Quality at high settings locked at 30fps. Or 800p 60fps mode. But that is twice the price of the Switch 2.
 
GigaBowser said:
digital foundries DERSTOYED

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ok, don't fucking post a SMD64 video as if that dude isn't completely incompetent.
I watched a recent video of his where he literally didn't understand how screen space reflections work.

dude has no plan whatsoever
 
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Minsc said:
No, you said Switch 2 drops clocks in portable mode - I just replied the Deck CAN drop clocks too, if you choose for it to. But yes, it doesn't normally. Still doesn't invalidate comparing docked performance for someone who would use the devices docked.
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To show what the device docked can do is ok. Comparing docked Switch 2 with the Deck is useless if we can't have the same performance/graphics while not docked.
 
rodrigolfp said:
To show what the device docked can do is ok. Comparing docked Switch 2 with the Deck is useless if we can't have the same performance/graphics while not docked.
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well, some people also use their Steam Deck docked to be fair, there's even an official dock, which will still result in the same performance, since the Deck doesn't change its TDP when docked.

the ROG Ally for example does, it has a special turbo mode when connected to the power supply that boosts beyond what it can do "undocked"
 
rodrigolfp said:
To show what the device docked can do is ok. Comparing docked Switch 2 with the Deck is useless if we can't have the same performance/graphics while not docked.
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Agree completely, it's disingenuous to compare Docked Switch 2 footage against the steam deck running off of a battery. Only under the same testing conditions can a true evaluation occur.
 
kevboard said:
well, some people also use their Steam Deck docked to be fair, there's even an official dock, which will still result in the same performance, since the Deck doesn't change its TDP when docked.

the ROG Ally for example does, it has a special turbo mode when connected to the power supply that boosts beyond what it can do "undocked"
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Then lets compare them docked vs docked and undocked vs undocked.
 
lmimmfn said:
And when SD2 launches in a year or 2 well be reading "Cyberpunk 2077 looks and runs much better on the Steam Deck 2 than the Nintendo Switch 2, New Footage Confirms"
Then, this whole conversation will restart...again.

Ahh, the circle of life.
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That's two years away man do you not realize how many threads and bans we can accumulate within this time frame!!! We feed on bodies today!!
 
kevboard said:
ok, don't fucking post a SMD64 video as if that dude isn't completely incompetent.
I watched a recent video of his where he literally didn't understand how screen space reflections work.

dude has no plan whatsoever
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buuut everthings he says in thirs video are true
 
kevboard said:
well, some people also use their Steam Deck docked to be fair, there's even an official dock, which will still result in the same performance, since the Deck doesn't change its TDP when docked.

the ROG Ally for example does, it has a special turbo mode when connected to the power supply that boosts beyond what it can do "undocked"
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The only reason these 2 devices are being compared is because they are portables.
 
Minsc said:
Why would that happen? The dock doesn't cool the Switch 2. The dock merely supplies power, and a place for the device to sit, along with passing the hdmi signal out. There will be 3rd party docks, like with Switch 1, and the third party dock makers have said the Switch 2 dock does not cool the Switch 2, but the dock itself.



No, you said Switch 2 drops clocks in portable mode - I just replied the Deck CAN drop clocks too, if you choose for it to. But yes, it doesn't normally. Still doesn't invalidate comparing docked performance for someone who would use the devices docked.
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It actually does. It has a built-in fan to cool it when docked.

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pulicat said:
DF reputation has been going down the drain since the reveal of Switch 2.

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I've lost a lot of respect for DF because of this whole thing. If their analysis and predictive power is not much more informed than the average forum poster, then it's hard to really call them an "authority" on graphics tech.
 
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