Expecting RT might be a bit much. I'd be happy if they can get it at a stable 40fps with decent image quality.CP2077 will look much, much better on Switch 2 once it's patched with DLSS, RT and RR
With 2 RTX cores don't expect much for RT. But the port look amazing.No. It is not. DLSS isn't in the current SDK. It's expected sometime before launch (mid May I've been told). CP2077 will look much, much better on Switch 2 once it's patched with DLSS, RT and RR. Give them time. It took CDPR 18 months to get the PS4 Pro version to run the way it did and another 6 months to get the PS5 as stable as it is. What they've achieved in less than six month of total development time on Switch 2 is nothing short of remarkable.
People forget how taxing this game is, how abysmal it still runs of PS4XBO, the fact the expansion wasn't possible even on PS4 Pro / Xbox One X and the kind of $3000 PC you need to max it out with PT at 4k/60fps.
that goes for and against your point.
But I thought Switch 2 is a PS4 level?
What is example of an updated 2025 hardware for a handheld gaming device?It's an outdated 2025 hardware, yes. It's getting 3rd party support from games a few years back on a locked 30 and probably medium settings or less. So no, do not expect many "late gen" ports few years from now.
Prepare to be surprised. Like most things in a console it's not just general PC RTX support nor does it require the same amount of compute to acheive good results. It's custom made in a partnership between Nvidia and NERD (as is DLSS and Ray Reconstruction). They're working on Frame Gen at the moment but who knows if it will actually be added to the SDK. They do make a lot of 60fps games though and they didn't add the 120fps screen just for the fun of itWith 2 RTX cores don't expect much for RT. But the port look amazing.
Lenovo Legion Go S, or just anything that uses the Z2 chip. For true power gain we need to wait for Z2 Extreme, which will have multiple handhelds launching in 2025, unfortunately probably at a $600-800 range. However these are all guaranteed to run 3rd party games better than NS2.What is example of an updated 2025 hardware for a handheld gaming device?
Where's the god damn preorder
Switch launched in 2017, Steam Deck in 2022. Also Switch is the only place you can play Nintendo games officially. Also sales of hardware is one, software is another:Switch 1 outsold Steam Deck nearly 50 to 1 despite being weaker technically and now Switch 2 has flipped that around.
Not at all. VRR is magic when implemented properly.Is this 2025 version of "can't see the difference between 30 and 60 FPS"?
Doesn't this primarily (only?) eliminate screen tearing? You would still feel the fluctuating frame rate, correct? Or is the idea to eliminate that as well?Not at all. VRR is magic when implemented properly.
Poor Ireland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Greece, Rumania, Croatia, Estonia, Malta, Bulgaria and Cyprus.
It's included in a DLC.Poor Ireland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Greece, Rumania, Croatia, Estonia, Malta, Bulgaria and Cyprus.
FFS that shit goes so fast I must've missed one.
Sales have zero impact on the devices power.Switch 1 outsold Steam Deck nearly 50 to 1 despite being weaker technically and now Switch 2 has flipped that around.
How do we know the power differences between those and Switch 2, especially considering DLSS and RT?Lenovo Legion Go S, or just anything that uses the Z2 chip. For true power gain we need to wait for Z2 Extreme, which will have multiple handhelds launching in 2025, unfortunately probably at a $600-800 range. However these are all guaranteed to run 3rd party games better than NS2.
On a 120hz display like on Switch 2, a 40fps frame rate can look much smoother than it actually is.Doesn't this primarily (only?) eliminate screen tearing? You would still feel the fluctuating frame rate, correct? Or is the idea to eliminate that as well?
That's cool if you're a hardcore handheld gamer. However, tye Switch 2 version of majority of multiplatform games will run better on the other gaming consoles(PS5, PS5 Pro, XSX, XSS and PC. And Xbox and PS will have their own handheld releasing in a year or two. Switch 2 will be used only for the occasional exclusive for me.![]()
Cyberpunk 2077 Looks and Runs Much Better on Nintendo Switch 2 Than Steam Deck, New Footage Confirms
New Cyberpunk 2077 footage shared online highlights how the demanding game will look and run better on Nintendo Switch 2 than Steam Deck.wccftech.com
As we all know, the NWS2 is a cheap piece of shit barely more powerful than a gameboy black and white.
Should Valve discount the Steam Deck now to keep up with the NSW2?
On a 120hz display like on Switch 2, a 40fps frame rate can look much smoother than it actually is.
Basically this is because 120/40 is an even number. If they can combine that with VRR to achieve a 40fps average then it should look impressive.
I'll retract the word 'locked'. What I was trying to say is that VRR can smooth out the frame dips to try and keep it at a consistent 40, which is where the 120hz sync should come into play.People say the same thing about the Deck running 45fps on 90hz or 40fps at 80hz. In general lower fps looks good running locked at handheld sizes on a even or straight multiple of the screen.
VRR gives the flexibility to smooth out 20-60 fps gaming (or whatever the range is, can be 90-200fps), but in the case where the game was a locked 40 or locked 45 or locked 60, it would not have any advantage.
Furthermore FSR/DLSS kinda mitigates VRR imo, because that tech just increases framerate to hit / stay at the target by adjusting resolution/quality in realtime.
Just get a TV or monitor that's 120fps with Gsync. I'm shopping 1440p myself.I am starting to think that we are going to have a better experience in the handheld mode vs TV due the Gsync…
I have a 120hz tv, but don't have Gsync only FreesyncJust get a TV or monitor that's 120fps with Gsync. I'm shopping 1440p myself.
Witcher 3 came much later in the Switch's life cycle. Being there at launch could be YUGE for CDPR.It's good to see the Switch 2 is better hardware than most of us expected. Ultimately, though, the Switch 2 will live or die based on its first party software. As amazing as Cyberpunk 2077 is, it's an old game and most people who care have already played it. I know why they are porting it, Witcher 3 did extremely well on Switch, but it's not going to hit the same as that one.
Cyberpunk is a launch title, it's going to do some big numbers.It's good to see the Switch 2 is better hardware than most of us expected. Ultimately, though, the Switch 2 will live or die based on its first party software. As amazing as Cyberpunk 2077 is, it's an old game and most people who care have already played it. I know why they are porting it, Witcher 3 did extremely well on Switch, but it's not going to hit the same as that one.
It's going to sell like crazy, it doesn't take a lot to realize that this might be the best third party game at launch they got. They'll buy it in droves, just like Skyrim.It's good to see the Switch 2 is better hardware than most of us expected. Ultimately, though, the Switch 2 will live or die based on its first party software. As amazing as Cyberpunk 2077 is, it's an old game and most people who care have already played it. I know why they are porting it, Witcher 3 did extremely well on Switch, but it's not going to hit the same as that one.
No Valve does not need to discount the Steam Deck because of the NSW2.
That Wikipedia list is not at all accurate. There is no official list of best selling games on Switch.Switch launched in 2017, Steam Deck in 2022. Also Switch is the only place you can play Nintendo games officially. Also sales of hardware is one, software is another:
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List of best-selling Nintendo Switch video games - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The first 3rd party game (not including Pokemon) is 24th. In Top50 6 games do not have connection to Nintendo.
Did GPD Win need a discount because of the Switch?? When did PC hardware need a discount because a console hardware??
I'm making a very confident prediction based on what I'm seeing.
This is running DLSS Ultra Performance at 1080p in handheld mode. Which is what, I believe around 360p in internal resolution.
And when SD2 launches in a year or 2 well be reading "Cyberpunk 2077 looks and runs much better on the Steam Deck 2 than the Nintendo Switch 2, New Footage Confirms"
Then, this whole conversation will restart...again.
Ahh, the circle of life.
Didn't seem to be the case for some bitter fanboys here till yesterday, lol.2022 hardware vs. 2025, shocking news.
Cyberpunk on steam deck took a massive performance drop with the 2.0 update. Would be curious to see how the previous legacy version would compare to the switch 2 version.
People were laughing here when Cyberpunk rumors running on Switch 2 started… So, the expectations here was the Switch 2 wasn't going to be capable of run the game.The steam deck is running the standard pc version while the switch version is custom made to take advantage of switch 2 specific hardware. Even though the power of the handhelds are relatively similar, the switch 2 will often come out ahead due to the fact that the software is tailored to fit on the platform.
Why this is surprising to anyone is beyond me. It's pretty much expected.