Cyberpunk 2077 Looks and Runs Much Better on Nintendo Switch 2 Than Steam Deck, New Footage Confirms

No. It is not. DLSS isn't in the current SDK. It's expected sometime before launch (mid May I've been told). CP2077 will look much, much better on Switch 2 once it's patched with DLSS, RT and RR. Give them time. It took CDPR 18 months to get the PS4 Pro version to run the way it did and another 6 months to get the PS5 as stable as it is. What they've achieved in less than six month of total development time on Switch 2 is nothing short of remarkable.

People forget how taxing this game is, how abysmal it still runs of PS4XBO, the fact the expansion wasn't possible even on PS4 Pro / Xbox One X and the kind of $3000 PC you need to max it out with PT at 4k/60fps.
With 2 RTX cores don't expect much for RT. But the port look amazing.
 
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that goes for and against your point.
 
Yo be fair. Its a optimized port for specific hardware vs regular pc game running on low-mid range laptop gimped hardware
 
It's an outdated 2025 hardware, yes. It's getting 3rd party support from games a few years back on a locked 30 and probably medium settings or less. So no, do not expect many "late gen" ports few years from now.
What is example of an updated 2025 hardware for a handheld gaming device?
 
With 2 RTX cores don't expect much for RT. But the port look amazing.
Prepare to be surprised. Like most things in a console it's not just general PC RTX support nor does it require the same amount of compute to acheive good results. It's custom made in a partnership between Nvidia and NERD (as is DLSS and Ray Reconstruction). They're working on Frame Gen at the moment but who knows if it will actually be added to the SDK. They do make a lot of 60fps games though and they didn't add the 120fps screen just for the fun of it :P
 
What is example of an updated 2025 hardware for a handheld gaming device?
Lenovo Legion Go S, or just anything that uses the Z2 chip. For true power gain we need to wait for Z2 Extreme, which will have multiple handhelds launching in 2025, unfortunately probably at a $600-800 range. However these are all guaranteed to run 3rd party games better than NS2.
 
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Switch 1 outsold Steam Deck nearly 50 to 1 despite being weaker technically and now Switch 2 has flipped that around.
Switch launched in 2017, Steam Deck in 2022. Also Switch is the only place you can play Nintendo games officially. Also sales of hardware is one, software is another:


The first 3rd party game (not including Pokemon) is 24th. In Top50 6 games do not have connection to Nintendo.
 
Switch 1 outsold Steam Deck nearly 50 to 1 despite being weaker technically and now Switch 2 has flipped that around.
Sales have zero impact on the devices power.

Lenovo Legion Go S, or just anything that uses the Z2 chip. For true power gain we need to wait for Z2 Extreme, which will have multiple handhelds launching in 2025, unfortunately probably at a $600-800 range. However these are all guaranteed to run 3rd party games better than NS2.
How do we know the power differences between those and Switch 2, especially considering DLSS and RT?
 
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I am completely unsurprised that DF is ok with openly speculating on unfinished software on an unreleased device.

At this point, they are losing credibility by the minute imo.
 
Doesn't this primarily (only?) eliminate screen tearing? You would still feel the fluctuating frame rate, correct? Or is the idea to eliminate that as well?
On a 120hz display like on Switch 2, a 40fps frame rate can look much smoother than it actually is.

Basically this is because 120/40 is an even number. If they can combine that with VRR to achieve a 40fps average then it should look impressive.
 
I notice 2 things in these threads here:

- people blaming Digital Foundry for concluding or analyzing stuff that shouldn't be possible untill the game is in your hands.
- people analyzing stuff and concluding stuff that isn't possible untill the game is in your hands.

Go figure.
 
Three year older portable perfomance is slightly worst them this new still not launched premium priced piece of hardware. News At Eleven of this great achievement.
 

As we all know, the NWS2 is a cheap piece of shit barely more powerful than a gameboy black and white.

Should Valve discount the Steam Deck now to keep up with the NSW2?
That's cool if you're a hardcore handheld gamer. However, tye Switch 2 version of majority of multiplatform games will run better on the other gaming consoles(PS5, PS5 Pro, XSX, XSS and PC. And Xbox and PS will have their own handheld releasing in a year or two. Switch 2 will be used only for the occasional exclusive for me.
 
That's looking pretty fucking rough.

Better than Steam Deck sure, but that's not a particularly high bar for a next-gen console.
 
On a 120hz display like on Switch 2, a 40fps frame rate can look much smoother than it actually is.

Basically this is because 120/40 is an even number. If they can combine that with VRR to achieve a 40fps average then it should look impressive.

People say the same thing about the Deck running 45fps on 90hz or 40fps at 80hz. In general lower fps looks good running locked at handheld sizes on a even or straight multiple of the screen.

VRR gives the flexibility to smooth out 20-60 fps gaming (or whatever the range is, can be 90-200fps), but in the case where the game was a locked 40 or locked 45 or locked 60, it would not have any advantage.

Furthermore FSR/DLSS kinda mitigates VRR imo, because that tech just increases framerate to hit / stay at the target by adjusting resolution/quality in realtime.
 
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People say the same thing about the Deck running 45fps on 90hz or 40fps at 80hz. In general lower fps looks good running locked at handheld sizes on a even or straight multiple of the screen.

VRR gives the flexibility to smooth out 20-60 fps gaming (or whatever the range is, can be 90-200fps), but in the case where the game was a locked 40 or locked 45 or locked 60, it would not have any advantage.

Furthermore FSR/DLSS kinda mitigates VRR imo, because that tech just increases framerate to hit / stay at the target by adjusting resolution/quality in realtime.
I'll retract the word 'locked'. What I was trying to say is that VRR can smooth out the frame dips to try and keep it at a consistent 40, which is where the 120hz sync should come into play.

You can see it in that preview video, it looks smooth as butter at times. Still needs work though.
 
It's good to see the Switch 2 is better hardware than most of us expected. Ultimately, though, the Switch 2 will live or die based on its first party software. As amazing as Cyberpunk 2077 is, it's an old game and most people who care have already played it. I know why they are porting it, Witcher 3 did extremely well on Switch, but it's not going to hit the same as that one.
 
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I guess that's cool for handheld standards and yes, a mid 2025 handheld should look better than an early 2022 handheld. I'll still do my next replay on PC. The visual fidelity is part of my immersion for this game. I'm not sacrificing that for how rough it looks on handhelds.
 
It's good to see the Switch 2 is better hardware than most of us expected. Ultimately, though, the Switch 2 will live or die based on its first party software. As amazing as Cyberpunk 2077 is, it's an old game and most people who care have already played it. I know why they are porting it, Witcher 3 did extremely well on Switch, but it's not going to hit the same as that one.
Witcher 3 came much later in the Switch's life cycle. Being there at launch could be YUGE for CDPR.
 
I mean, Switch 2 SF6 beats the SHIT out of XSS which has a much stronger cpu. Other games look incredible and compare very favorably to XSS titles on Switch 2 in docked mode.

To be honest, the Switch 2's power is really underappreciated on here. It's a very good machine. Nintendo is going to cook on this thing. Think of how good all the games on PS4 looked and now imagine a big leap over that in many/most games and you will have Switch 2. It's a proper powerful console and the price reflects that.

I know you don't want this to be true but it absolutely is.
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Anybody shitting on it is probably trying to trick you and talking bout handheld mode. Most of them don't know shit, honestly, never held the console and they have an agenda as proved by the fact of them shitting on it while contradicting facts like this are ignored. Shitting on the price is one thing but graphics? That's just ignorance. This thing is crazy for a handheld, CRAZY and all its tricks won't be seen until later in the gen. Nintendo will fucking cook here my guys. Watch DF or a real analyst and you will understand the above is true or even just accept that this thread title is accurate. The quality will be remembered long after the price is forgotten. Buy once cry once. Two is one and one is none. Get em while you can, salad says are here for gaming.
 
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It's good to see the Switch 2 is better hardware than most of us expected. Ultimately, though, the Switch 2 will live or die based on its first party software. As amazing as Cyberpunk 2077 is, it's an old game and most people who care have already played it. I know why they are porting it, Witcher 3 did extremely well on Switch, but it's not going to hit the same as that one.
Cyberpunk is a launch title, it's going to do some big numbers.
 
It's good to see the Switch 2 is better hardware than most of us expected. Ultimately, though, the Switch 2 will live or die based on its first party software. As amazing as Cyberpunk 2077 is, it's an old game and most people who care have already played it. I know why they are porting it, Witcher 3 did extremely well on Switch, but it's not going to hit the same as that one.
It's going to sell like crazy, it doesn't take a lot to realize that this might be the best third party game at launch they got. They'll buy it in droves, just like Skyrim.
 
Switch launched in 2017, Steam Deck in 2022. Also Switch is the only place you can play Nintendo games officially. Also sales of hardware is one, software is another:


The first 3rd party game (not including Pokemon) is 24th. In Top50 6 games do not have connection to Nintendo.
That Wikipedia list is not at all accurate. There is no official list of best selling games on Switch.

This bit at the top explains why "As Nintendo shares the sales of their video games every quarter while most other publishers do not share sales figures per console, this list consists mostly of Nintendo-published titles."

Edit: that's not to say that there are lots of third games that have sold 20 million +. But there are hundreds of millions of third party game sales on Switch.
 
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Let me know when the Swutch 2 dies emulation.

I am not talking about the stuff that's accessible via Nintendo Online.
 
I'm making a very confident prediction based on what I'm seeing.

This is running DLSS Ultra Performance at 1080p in handheld mode. Which is what, I believe around 360p in internal resolution.

There's no telltale sign of DLSS being used so far in this game

Why would it run at lower resolution than a steam deck. We already see it looks much better. Deck is dithered pixel soup.
 
And when SD2 launches in a year or 2 well be reading "Cyberpunk 2077 looks and runs much better on the Steam Deck 2 than the Nintendo Switch 2, New Footage Confirms"
Then, this whole conversation will restart...again.

Ahh, the circle of life.

Yes but its still nice to see this. Alot of people around the internet were sure it won't be stronger than a SD and as it its now it's already producing better results
 
Cyberpunk on steam deck took a massive performance drop with the 2.0 update. Would be curious to see how the previous legacy version would compare to the switch 2 version.
 
Can't wait for the hype to deflate after it releases on switch 2 and people start to notice how much most likely got scaled back to make it "look good" eg. crowd density
 
The steam deck is running the standard pc version while the switch version is custom made to take advantage of switch 2 specific hardware. Even though the power of the handhelds are relatively similar, the switch 2 will often come out ahead due to the fact that the software is tailored to fit on the platform.

Why this is surprising to anyone is beyond me. It's pretty much expected.
 
Cyberpunk on steam deck took a massive performance drop with the 2.0 update. Would be curious to see how the previous legacy version would compare to the switch 2 version.

Why would you compare the previous legacy version when this is not that?

Unfortunately for the Deck, that is all too common an occurrence these days. There's dozens of games that used to run great on the Deck, and have gotten graphic updates and now are way more borderline, like TW3 and Deep Rock Galactic.

The Deck, while still great, is definitely aged out of new AAA, and more these days.
 
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The steam deck is running the standard pc version while the switch version is custom made to take advantage of switch 2 specific hardware. Even though the power of the handhelds are relatively similar, the switch 2 will often come out ahead due to the fact that the software is tailored to fit on the platform.

Why this is surprising to anyone is beyond me. It's pretty much expected.
People were laughing here when Cyberpunk rumors running on Switch 2 started… So, the expectations here was the Switch 2 wasn't going to be capable of run the game.
 
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