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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 2. Haswell = #IntelnoTIM, but free online. READ THE OP.
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I can see: Asrock Z77 PRO3; Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H; Asrock Z77 PRO4-M. All round 85-90€. What would be the best of the three? Thanks for the interest btw
EDIT: the 4670K is 50€ more than the 3570K, would it be worth it? I read OC could be troublesome with haswell in the OP... could that be the case? And would a Z77 still be ok for it?
I can see: Asrock Z77 PRO3; Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H; Asrock Z77 PRO4-M. All round 85-90€. What would be the best of the three? Thanks for the interest btw
EDIT: the 4670K is 50€ more than the 3570K, would it be worth it? I read OC could be troublesome with haswell in the OP... could that be the case? And would a Z77 still be ok for it?
Unless you're emulating it's not worth it. Haswell requires a Z87 board.
Is the MSI G45 around that price for you?
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Hi! This was the original post, for clarity.
I'm actually interested in emulation quite a lot, but unfortunately I'm on a limited budget. I was thinking about upgrading only my CPU, my motherboard, my ram and my storage, adding an SSD. The fact is, with a 3570K + a Z77 I would be inside my budget, with a 4670K + a Z87 I think I might go overboard, even if just a little.
I looked for the MSI G45 at first but sadly amazon italy doesn't have it, that's why I was asking about those other motherboards. But if it's so much better than those I could always grab it someplace else and pay a bit more for shipping fees I guess. Last time I was interested in upgrading my PC I remember seeing the PRO4 among the suggested motherboards but that probably changed now.
Yeah there is our Amazon or even Amazon.de too, it has decent stock levels iirc.
From Amazon UK costs are as such
It was free for orders over 25£ until a month or so ago they changed it, sadly. Bad timing, sigh. They also restricted the categories of items dispatching to Italy (that's because we have our own amazon I think) and stopped dispatching components over here, so it couldn't be possible even if I was willing to pay the shipping fees
If Z77 is your budget then it will still do extremely well.I can see: Asrock Z77 PRO3; Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H; Asrock Z77 PRO4-M. All round 85-90. What would be the best of the three? Thanks for the interest btw
EDIT: the 4670K is 50 more than the 3570K, would it be worth it? I read OC could be troublesome with haswell in the OP... could that be the case? And would a Z77 still be ok for it?
I think the Pro4 M doesnt have the issues of the Extreme so if you dont mind the PCI-E slots lost then you can go for that.
Thank you! I think I will settle for Ivy and Z77 for now then.
Oh and one last question (sorry, understanding what's going on with motherboards is always hard for me): I didn't see it before because of the slightly higher price but I found the ASUS P8Z77-V LX for 100 on Amazon.it as well. I noticed the LK model is in the OP (although it's not on my local amazon) and that it should be identical to the LX only with a PCI-E 3.0 port less or something like that. So I was wondering, maybe this would be the better choice instead of the Pro4 M?
I guess I should check with Newegg then.
Newegg said:
Mighty nice of them, but I hate how support does "one time exception." I ordered the item with that promo and didn't get it. If you were going to cancel that promo item because you ran out of stock, at least let me know before shipping or processing my order you know? :/ I kinda expected it to be included and if it isn't you should give a heads up about it, ya know?
Still, they've been the best to work with compared to like NCIX and Microcenter so I can't hate too much. And they're comping the stick for me so I don't have to pay for the shipping or the stick so hoorah. Should be able to build next week after Amazon and Newegg give me the stuff I need due to order screwups.
I wasn't happy with the performance on my i5 2500k. I sorta guessed it would happen though because it's an old old cpu that's been used a lot. So I went out and bought a i5 3570k from tiger direct. Is there something better I could have gotten for straight computer gaming? I plan on buying Haswell-E next year.
3570k doesn't offer much over 2500k performance wise. It give PCIE 3 support. Did you have your 2500k overclocked? For gaming not really, the top i5 are still what most stick to
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Edit: It turns out I actually didn't buy a unlocked i5 2500, so that's why I was upset with the overclocking. I could only get it up to 4.1 then bios would stop me. I feel stupid, but whatever I have a better core now.
Just got my wireless 360 controller receiver, all set up and it's working just fine. Any suggestions of games with good controller support to test out?
Edit: Nevermind, fired up F1 2012 and it's working like a dream. No latency at all. Having a controller has instantly boosted the quality of my PC gaming. I love being able to just sit back and relax while I play.
Edit: Nevermind, fired up F1 2012 and it's working like a dream. No latency at all. Having a controller has instantly boosted the quality of my PC gaming. I love being able to just sit back and relax while I play.
Yeah it works great, you can hook up more than one controller if a game happens to have multiplayer as well! Steam will typically let you know if a controller works with a game. Big Picture mode + good 3rd person action games are amazing. I played through Dark Souls with it, for FPS single player games I sometimes prefer it as well such as Dishonored and Borderlands 2.
eBay prices don't count until 2 minutes before it ends. I'd say $130-$160 is about right. You are competing with Used Ivy's now.
630? Sounds like ThermalTake. Should be fine.
I am looking at buying a 760, which requires two 6 pin pcie power connectors. My power supply has this split pcie power cable.
Seems weird that two power connectors would come from one cable run. Will this work? It is a 630w supply.
Hi fellow Gaffers. I am quite ignorant when it comes to hardware so was wondering if you could help me with this.
Am looking to build a hd video editing/gaming pc, with emphasis on editing more than gaming.
I found this site which seems to give good suggestions for parts and I am wondering what your opinion on the build is. My budget is around 1000 dollars and this setup seems to fit perfectly:
http://www.absoluteblogger.com/2013/06/build-best-gaming-editing-computer-pc-1000-dollars.html
Processor -AMD FX-8350
Motherboard -GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3
GPU -Gigabyte AMD Radeon HD 7870
RAM -Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3
SSD -Samsung 840 120 GB
HDD -WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Drive
PSU -Corsair Builder Series CX600
Optical Drive -Samsung Optical Drive SH-224 DB/BEBE
If it's good, should I install my OS on the SSD? How much space would Win7 64-bit take up? Asking because I also want to store my hd video recordings on there for fast editing.
Am looking to build a hd video editing/gaming pc, with emphasis on editing more than gaming.
I found this site which seems to give good suggestions for parts and I am wondering what your opinion on the build is. My budget is around 1000 dollars and this setup seems to fit perfectly:
http://www.absoluteblogger.com/2013/06/build-best-gaming-editing-computer-pc-1000-dollars.html
Processor -AMD FX-8350
Motherboard -GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3
GPU -Gigabyte AMD Radeon HD 7870
RAM -Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3
SSD -Samsung 840 120 GB
HDD -WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Drive
PSU -Corsair Builder Series CX600
Optical Drive -Samsung Optical Drive SH-224 DB/BEBE
If it's good, should I install my OS on the SSD? How much space would Win7 64-bit take up? Asking because I also want to store my hd video recordings on there for fast editing.
Hey guys I looked at the op already but I'm at best buy looking for a new kbm combo to get for my brother. They have g500 to 700 Logitech mice and keyboards and then Razer death stalker anansi and black widow boards, then naga and death adder. Was wonder what would be the best. Money doesn't matter.
Are you unable to mount your heatsink fan on the other side, so it's blowing through the heatsink and out the back?Finally got a modular power supply. A little work routing things behind and under and I went from a dusty, cramped, jumbled mess to this:
Really happy.
Or is your RAM too tall?
None of those.
Steelseries Sensei, and then one of the mechanical boards in the OP. The Quickfire TK is a neat board. Get the Cherry Red or Brown version (switch type).
http://shop.steelseries.com/us/mice...ail&utm_term=0_77dc9bf898-50d824c65d-80073749
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823129019
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823129013
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Oh, if you are at BB, then get the Seelseries Sensei still, and then the SteelSeries 6VG2 keyboard.
RAM too tall.
OK, so because I was trying to save money, I bought this RAM without thinking what kind of impact it might have in terms of abutting the heatsink. I'll check it on Monday (hopefully my other parts should arrive then) but can anyone tell me if I'll be OK? Looking at the numbers I think it should fit:
This heatsink with these RAM dimensions on this board.
This heatsink with these RAM dimensions on this board.
That RAM shouldn't have any problems clearing any heatsinks. It's the ones with the ridiculous fins that people shouldn't buy that have issues
I have my 212 aligned like that and it actually has lower temps then when I had it the other way. This is in a Corsair Carbride 300 case.
Should I get a 770 over a 760? Here's the build I'm working on right now: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/mintyice/saved/21Ih
If you can put it into your budget, sure. 770 is a fair bit more powerful than the 760.
Change the motherboard to the MSI G45 Gaming. They have a good track record of being reliable. Prices should be similar.
If you have the cash, I would. I have a 770 and love it (except for the daily nvm crash)
Gotcha, I think I'll only be gaming at 1920x1080 unless I can find a good deal on a monitor
You might consider swapping out the motherboard for one in the OP as well.
Will do. MSI Z87-G45, right? Have to say that red dragon is super gaudy, but oh well.
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2 seconds before it ends. If someone is willing to wait till the last minutes of the auction to bid, but not wait till the final 5 seconds then I don't know what to say.
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So, my pc is acting strange lately, rebooting for no apparent reason (seems to be PSU, but it doesn't happen under load).
I was thinking about a clean Windows install; should I keep 7 or go with 8?
I can get both for free through university, so...
I was thinking about a clean Windows install; should I keep 7 or go with 8?
I can get both for free through university, so...
I think Asus Suit is giving me this error every once and awhile. Anyone else get this?
Between that and the random core and volt warnings, this is some buggy software!
Messing around with my i5 3570k before I consider delid. At 4.6ghz right now with 1 hour into Prime85 blend at 66*C load and 27*C idle.
Between that and the random core and volt warnings, this is some buggy software!
Messing around with my i5 3570k before I consider delid. At 4.6ghz right now with 1 hour into Prime85 blend at 66*C load and 27*C idle.
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I have a cheap LG W2261VP-PF monitor from 2010. The colours are bad now (whites are very yellow), and it's a little bit small. I feel the need for an upgrade.
Now I'm not sure if I should get a 120Hz monitor or a 2560x1440 monitor.
Out of the two types, I've only ever seen a 27" iMac (my colleague has one at work), and whilst it is gorgeous, I don't think it's what I want. Anyway I wouldn't want to run my games at that resolution.
I love gaming at 60 frames per second, and is the main reason why I'll be sticking with PC for the foreseeable future. I have no idea how much of an improvement having an 120Hz monitor would be. Could someone describe why 120Hz is an advantage?
I would like to spend max. £300. What are my options? Is the BenQ XL2411T the only option for UK (in the OP)?
Edit: Oh it does seem the other two suggested in the OP are available in the UK. The ASUS VG248QE seems better because I'm more into it having nicer colours. Should I even bother with 120Hz?
Now I'm not sure if I should get a 120Hz monitor or a 2560x1440 monitor.
Out of the two types, I've only ever seen a 27" iMac (my colleague has one at work), and whilst it is gorgeous, I don't think it's what I want. Anyway I wouldn't want to run my games at that resolution.
I love gaming at 60 frames per second, and is the main reason why I'll be sticking with PC for the foreseeable future. I have no idea how much of an improvement having an 120Hz monitor would be. Could someone describe why 120Hz is an advantage?
I would like to spend max. £300. What are my options? Is the BenQ XL2411T the only option for UK (in the OP)?
Edit: Oh it does seem the other two suggested in the OP are available in the UK. The ASUS VG248QE seems better because I'm more into it having nicer colours. Should I even bother with 120Hz?
Anyone?
The 8350 is a bad processor for gaming. Great for video editing and multimedia, bad for gaming. If you want to know specifics, here you go: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70859256&postcount=3000
Go with the stuff in the OP.
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Also, if you will be using Premiere, get an NVIDIA card. If you use Vegas, get an AMD card.
I think it's the most important technological development in gaming in the last ~5 years or so.
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I dont't know if should get an Asus VG248QE for £286.97 or a BenQ XL2411T for £235.04?
I'm almost positive they use the same panel, so yeah, I'd go for the BenQ.
Future PhaZe
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So I'm building tonight. Last thing is the Windows issue thats been bugging me.
mkenyon helped me out by letting me know about the USB install so I'll go that route. My only question now is if I should just download Windows 8 Upgrade from microsoft or if I should just buy a Windows 8 OEM disc.
Basically whats the cheapest option?
The thing that makes me pause about Windows 8 upgrade is that it says I can only install from a computer with Windows preinstalled, which I don't have obviously on a brand new computer I'm building.
I think the Asus is better for gaming but I don't know if its as big of a difference as that price would indicate. I probably go Benq there.
mkenyon helped me out by letting me know about the USB install so I'll go that route. My only question now is if I should just download Windows 8 Upgrade from microsoft or if I should just buy a Windows 8 OEM disc.
Basically whats the cheapest option?
The thing that makes me pause about Windows 8 upgrade is that it says I can only install from a computer with Windows preinstalled, which I don't have obviously on a brand new computer I'm building.
I think the Asus is better for gaming but I don't know if its as big of a difference as that price would indicate. I probably go Benq there.
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