That + tiny die + VRM on die = one hot proc.Ugh forgot about the lack of soldered heatspreaders yeah...
Definitely an edge the enthusiast platforms have...
I wish Intel would use solder for at least the K unlocked models. It makes such a difference in terms of heat dissipation((
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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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So, I'm new to this whole PC thing, having been a console gamer for years. I'm sure this question has been asked already, but I'm seeing the AMD FX9370 is around the same price as the intel i5 4670K model. From what's listed, it would seem the AMD is better at 8 cores and a 1 GHz faster frequency. A friend of mine is a huge AMD fan who says exactly this. Tell me GAF, why should I go Intel?
ThoseDeafMutes
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Intel CPUs run laps around AMD ones per unit of clock. An i5 is usually much better than an AMD chip in the same bracket, altho more expensive too. Look up reviews and benchmarks to see if this one is better than the AMD at the same price.
Sadly I do
Could probably go as low as 190 to sell it quick.
Ah well I just paid my rent so I have zero spending money till next paycheck. Hope you get it sold and fast.
Run the other way.
The low IPC on the FX processors makes them really bad for gaming. Really, really, bad. They're awesome multimedia creation processors though. For encoding and such things, the 8350 is basically on par with the 3770K.
Not to mention the power requirement difference between the two.
FX 9370 at 220w vs. i5 4670k at 84w
Excite!
Aww yeah! Pics pls k thnx
OC'd my 4670k to 4.0GHz with just the stock voltage and highest temp on the first core was 70C. Good enough for me. Played Diablo III, max everything at 1440p (not a really demanding game but still) and it ran so smooth even with all the action/enemies on screen.
Hyperbole of the tallest order. FX chips will run most games just fine. They're not good for emulators like Dolphin, but fine for games.
Edit: Don't get me wrong, I'd recommend Intel chips to anyone looking to build. However, if you get an FX it's not like you gonna be playing slideshows.
sol_bad
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Hey fellow GAFers.
I was wondering what the general consensus is on the Sound Blaster Z and ZX.
I have an Onkyo A/V receiver, can't remember what model it is, bought it a few years ago. My speakers are all Paradigm models, front speakers a ParadigmMonitor 9's and my subwoofer is an Ultracube 10.
I used to use the Sound Blaster X-fi branded card by the Fatality guy, the quality was very nice but unfortunately it was a PCI based card. I had to ditch it once I built a new PC.
For the past years or so I have been traveling along with onboard audio, I have it hooked to my A/V receiver by analogue RCA cables. I noticed the Sound Blaster Z and ZX have the RCA analogue outputs but the ZXR does not.
Are the Z and ZX considered good sound cards these days or are there better cards in the same price range?
Thanks for any help, greatly appreciated.
I was wondering what the general consensus is on the Sound Blaster Z and ZX.
I have an Onkyo A/V receiver, can't remember what model it is, bought it a few years ago. My speakers are all Paradigm models, front speakers a ParadigmMonitor 9's and my subwoofer is an Ultracube 10.
I used to use the Sound Blaster X-fi branded card by the Fatality guy, the quality was very nice but unfortunately it was a PCI based card. I had to ditch it once I built a new PC.
For the past years or so I have been traveling along with onboard audio, I have it hooked to my A/V receiver by analogue RCA cables. I noticed the Sound Blaster Z and ZX have the RCA analogue outputs but the ZXR does not.
Are the Z and ZX considered good sound cards these days or are there better cards in the same price range?
Thanks for any help, greatly appreciated.
Nice, just in time for the weekend! Pics please!
Newegg's got an open box 770 for $295 guys. Just a heads up. Will probably be gone shortly!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121770R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121770R
If you get one, make sure you have fire insurance on your home.
If you get it, you NEED good water cooling. It runs super hot, and sucks 220W of power before overclocking. You seem to have a lot of friends who run with AMD so it might be more helpful for you since you know a bunch who also use them.
Infinite Justice
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How did that predicament for Mad turn out?
still sucks hardcore that the cpu cooler leaked
also AMD
when will you guys have good processors again to compete so i can get some competition and good deals
still sucks hardcore that the cpu cooler leaked
also AMD
when will you guys have good processors again to compete so i can get some competition and good deals
chickdigger802
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so i know ive been putting off, but i'm pretty sure ill pick up a new gpu this year even if nvidia decides to hold off.
I forget, if I want to max stuff out on 1440p, 780 and amd equiv is pretty much the minimum right?
I forget, if I want to max stuff out on 1440p, 780 and amd equiv is pretty much the minimum right?
AwakenedCloud
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The deed is done. The GPU is actually a r7 265, but they didn't have it in their parts database yet.
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The total came to $962.88. Does this seem like a solid sub 1K gaming build?
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The total came to $962.88. Does this seem like a solid sub 1K gaming build?
If not a 780 ti lol... Again maxing out will depend on settings and the game itself.
The deed is done. The GPU is actually a r7 265, but they didn't have it in their parts database yet.
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The total came to $962.88. Does this seem like a solid sub 1K gaming build?
1k budget with r7 265 makes little sense.
LOL glad i'm not the only one thinking it.
AwakenedCloud
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Ehh, the plan is to upgrade the GPU once prices get back to regular in 3-4 years. Right now, I just want to be able to play games on par with the PS4 and get good emulation.
I came out with a similar build.
CPU: 4670K - $180
Cooler: - Zalman Optima - $10
Mobo: ASUS Z87-A - $85
RAM: Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600 - $48
GPU: AMD R7 265 - $150
PSU: XFX 550W Bronze - $25
Case: Corsair 200R - $20
Total - $518
Reusing:
1TB HDD, Toshiba 240GB SSD, 24" 1080p, 27" 1080p, Logitech G5 mouse, K65 mechanical keyboard ($65)
maneil99
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265 wont last well in 3 years... Dont skimp out on the gpu.
maneil99
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They are stopping R&D for high end desktop CPUs I think.How did that predicament for Mad turn out?
still sucks hardcore that the cpu cooler leaked
also AMD
when will you guys have good processors again to compete so i can get some competition and good deals
To even think about max out at 1440p @ 60fps, you will need to start with a SLI or CF setup. Even then, SLI 780ti, currently the fastest cards, can't max out in certain games.
AwakenedCloud
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Why not? Maybe I misunderstood, but this and the 760Ti are comparable to the new Console GPUs, and if those set the standards I should be able to run anything coming out on those platforms at least on Medium with a good frame rate.
Have you been holding onto those parts? Everything you listed is significantly lower than it is on PC Part Picker.
Ordered everything from Feb 20 - Feb 27... just kept my eyes peeled for deals. Didn't get any used stuff. Last thing I ordered was the 265 yesterday.
Rawket Lawnchair
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Bumping from the previous page, any comments regarding the power supply and the CPU cooler?
RelentlessRolento
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GAF I am in need of help for my thesis show in a month.
I programmed my work in GameMaker and want one or two PCs to be running the program, but don't want to spend too much. Sub $200 (preferably sub $150) is what I am looking for and soemthing that won't chug what I made (no 3D graphics but semi alot to process at some points).
Any help? I've looked at NewEgg but not sure if that is the best place to find what I need for now.
huge thanks to any help as it'll save money and make a thesis show way better
I programmed my work in GameMaker and want one or two PCs to be running the program, but don't want to spend too much. Sub $200 (preferably sub $150) is what I am looking for and soemthing that won't chug what I made (no 3D graphics but semi alot to process at some points).
Any help? I've looked at NewEgg but not sure if that is the best place to find what I need for now.
huge thanks to any help as it'll save money and make a thesis show way better
But you could do much much better with a more balanced build right now. Your gpu is roughly in the same ball park as the budget build gpu in the op.
He's just passionate and knows about frame latency and how it affects competitive shooters at 120Hz.
Prophet Steve
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Console games are better optimized and many of them run on lower than 1080P, which is probably not something you want to do. Also many of the console games will have framerate issues which will probably be even worse on a similarly specced PC.
The main thing is the GPU is just way too underpowered compared to the rest of the build. I get why you want to do it, but 3-4 years is a long time of wasted power.
GAF I am in need of help for my thesis show in a month.
I programmed my work in GameMaker and want one or two PCs to be running the program, but don't want to spend too much. Sub $200 (preferably sub $150) is what I am looking for and soemthing that won't chug what I made (no 3D graphics but semi alot to process at some points).
Any help? I've looked at NewEgg but not sure if that is the best place to find what I need for now.
huge thanks to any help as it'll save money and make a thesis show way better
You can't really build a new PC with that. You can't buy older components for much lower prices new. Try borrowing something or find something used. That or go really cheap by going linux on an USB stick or something and maybe not even use a case and then use the dedicated GPU on an AMD processor. Even then you are probably still above the budget.
Hey guys, it's been a while.
I have a small problem, that bugs me. Yesterday, I reset my Gigabyte Z87X-OC to standard settings in the UEFI and since then, my PC starts on Mouse double click. I have disabled "Wake on LAN", "Wake on Mouse" and "Wake on Keyboard", but it's still happening. When I click on the Mouse once, the Mouse starts to glow, too. The mouse is a Roccat Kone[+] btw.
Am I missing something? My manual didn't gave away, what possibly could be wrong. I have a feeling, that the USB ports are always on, but I haven't found a setting, where I can disable that feature.
Help would be appreciated. Thanks.
I have a small problem, that bugs me. Yesterday, I reset my Gigabyte Z87X-OC to standard settings in the UEFI and since then, my PC starts on Mouse double click. I have disabled "Wake on LAN", "Wake on Mouse" and "Wake on Keyboard", but it's still happening. When I click on the Mouse once, the Mouse starts to glow, too. The mouse is a Roccat Kone[+] btw.
Am I missing something? My manual didn't gave away, what possibly could be wrong. I have a feeling, that the USB ports are always on, but I haven't found a setting, where I can disable that feature.
Help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Nostremitus
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I don't know if this will be able to play your game, but this is as close to $200 I could get without dropping to an A4 or reducing RAM.GAF I am in need of help for my thesis show in a month.
I programmed my work in GameMaker and want one or two PCs to be running the program, but don't want to spend too much. Sub $200 (preferably sub $150) is what I am looking for and soemthing that won't chug what I made (no 3D graphics but semi alot to process at some points).
Any help? I've looked at NewEgg but not sure if that is the best place to find what I need for now.
huge thanks to any help as it'll save money and make a thesis show way better
I got my RMA acccepted from the store I bought all of my PC parts from, and they'll replace the Corsair H60 as soon as I have sent the broken one in.
Hopefully my other parts aren't broken then.
While I wait for a new water cooler, can I eventually check if the other parts work now?
Hopefully my other parts aren't broken then.
While I wait for a new water cooler, can I eventually check if the other parts work now?
AwakenedCloud
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Alright. I tried basing it off of the "Great" build in the OP and after factoring in the bigger SSD and whatnot it seemed to match.
Would a GTX 760 suffice as a replacement? What would you guys recommend. Also, since the 265 has already shipped, if anyone wants one for retail price let me know.
Prophet Steve
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I don't know your previous posts. But if you only need a new water cooler you can just use the CPU stock cooler and everything should work perfectly.
Oh yeah, why didn't I think about that.
Well, a few days ago, I think it was 2-3 days ago, my water cooler leaked liquid throughout the whole case, so that everything from PSU, CPU, RAM and video card got wet.
And now I'm hesitant to start it all up, in fear of it breaking. =/
Blak_Status
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For price to performance, should I be looking at the 770 or the 780?
Was the computer on when the cooler leaked on all the components?
If it was off (and you unplugged all power to the system) and let it dry it your parts might be ok. Just make sure you've given it ample time to air out.
I never turned on the computer but I wonder if 2-3 days have been enough to dry it all out.
APZonerunner
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Should I pull the trigger on a 770 or 780 right now? I mentioned I was considering so to a guy who tends to know his stuff about PC stuff, and he said I might want to hold fire for a little longer for next-generation cards. Is something coming soon, PC GAF?
anchorman128
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There is a good chance it is already dry, but if it was my parts and time waiting on RMA's on the line id probably wait at least 5 days. But I'm probably just being pessimistic.
I'd wait 5 days. Is it in rice bags?
Anyone?
No, I'm just letting it dry by itself.
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