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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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LeeRoyBrown
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Ok, I really need your help here people, I keep getting the deaded Blue Screen of Death or BSOD when streaming video, and it's random.
It ONLY happens during gametrailers or youtube....and playvid...which might be a pornsite.
I had my PC running with no BSOD's at all, added my GPU last week and it's only been happening since.
The error I get is 0xA0000001 and the program who crashed claims the driver crashing is atikmdag.sys
HELP!
It sounds like it's my new GPU, however I can play games non stop all day, like 3-4 days ago I played for ...maybe 10 hours straight on my day off. No issues at all.
It ONLY happens during gametrailers or youtube....and playvid...which might be a pornsite.
I had my PC running with no BSOD's at all, added my GPU last week and it's only been happening since.
The error I get is 0xA0000001 and the program who crashed claims the driver crashing is atikmdag.sys
HELP!
It sounds like it's my new GPU, however I can play games non stop all day, like 3-4 days ago I played for ...maybe 10 hours straight on my day off. No issues at all.
jfoul
Member
The Radeon R9 290X is finally starting to drop in price, and performs really well at resolutions above 1920x1080. The PowerColor PCS+ AXR9 290X is an amazing card and it's $569.99. I usually stay away from PowerColor, but it seems they produced extremely well built R9 290 & 290X cards with their PCS+ line.
Note: This is a triple slot cooling solution.
Reviews:
TECHPOWERUP
HardwareCanucks
Guru3D
Hexus
OverclockersClub
Diminishing returns, but not a bad way to go. If you look at benchmarks, it's clear that getting solid 60 FPS at high settings with one card will require some sacrifices in image quality. For example, in Crysis 3 the Ti barely gets 60 FPS average which means it's dipping well below that. While two 780s cost more than one 780 Ti, the performance per dollar is better, and there's some perf headroom in case upcoming games raise the bar. If nothing else, it can be spent on good AA in existing games.
Chie Satonaka
Member
Okay, so I've picked out some parts for my new build. I need some feedback, so I'm hoping you guys can help me out.
Case: Fractial Arc Midi R2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352031
CPU: Intel Core I5-4670K http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CO8TBOW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
GPU: EVGA GTX 780 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CUIVSNS/?tag=neogaf0e-20
RAM: Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007TTEHUY/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Mobo: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EWGSGSG/?tag=neogaf0e-20 I picked this one because I liked the price
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
SSD: Samsung Evo 840 250 GB http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E3W1726/?tag=neogaf0e-20
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series 650-Watt 80 Plus Bronze PSU http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004LB5AZY/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Storage: Just a barebones Seagate Barracuda 1TB. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T3GRNW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Any feedback would be appreciated. As an aside, my budget is 1500, and these parts plus some other miscellaneous stuff puts me pretty close.
Thanks in advance.
Case: Fractial Arc Midi R2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352031
CPU: Intel Core I5-4670K http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CO8TBOW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
GPU: EVGA GTX 780 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CUIVSNS/?tag=neogaf0e-20
RAM: Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007TTEHUY/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Mobo: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EWGSGSG/?tag=neogaf0e-20 I picked this one because I liked the price
and the color scheme oh god please don't make fun of me
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
SSD: Samsung Evo 840 250 GB http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E3W1726/?tag=neogaf0e-20
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series 650-Watt 80 Plus Bronze PSU http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004LB5AZY/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Storage: Just a barebones Seagate Barracuda 1TB. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T3GRNW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Any feedback would be appreciated. As an aside, my budget is 1500, and these parts plus some other miscellaneous stuff puts me pretty close.
Thanks in advance.
I didnt want to do a fresh installed cause i have a lot of things to transfer if i do. I will see if i can do a fresh install today, but if the problem continues what would should i do?
jfoul
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Even though I really like EVGA, I would take a look at the Gigabyte GTX780 GV-N780GHZ-3GD. I think it's the fastest clocked GTX 780, and uses Hynix memory.
HardOCP Review.
I didnt see your comment. Might do it thru amazon better ill ask them to send me a replacement while i use this one for now hopefully they say yes.
A couple of observations and questions I have for all of you.
First, at what point will the i5, clocked at 4+Mhz be considered not fast enough for 90% of the games on the market? The 2500K is still looking like it will be fine for at least another 2+ years. I know Devils Canyon is due out soon but are there any games out there where this is really going to be a huge difference maker?
Onto my observations/reviews. I just replaced my 2 MSI GTX 770 SLi set up with an EVGA GTX 780 ti. Everything is running very smooth and fast but the single 780 ti is actually louder than the 2 GTX 770 cards. The 780 ti runs cooler at about 72C compared to the 83C of the SLi setup but the 780 is really loud.
Also, I got a replacement panel for the Qnix 1440P screen that I bought that died 3 days after purchase. The new screen is PERFECT. BLB is gone, there are are no spotches anywhere, no stuck pixels, and everything looks great. The glossy screen is nice but EXTREMELY reflective. I had to turn the backlight down on my keyboard bcause I can see it in some games.
First, at what point will the i5, clocked at 4+Mhz be considered not fast enough for 90% of the games on the market? The 2500K is still looking like it will be fine for at least another 2+ years. I know Devils Canyon is due out soon but are there any games out there where this is really going to be a huge difference maker?
Onto my observations/reviews. I just replaced my 2 MSI GTX 770 SLi set up with an EVGA GTX 780 ti. Everything is running very smooth and fast but the single 780 ti is actually louder than the 2 GTX 770 cards. The 780 ti runs cooler at about 72C compared to the 83C of the SLi setup but the 780 is really loud.
Also, I got a replacement panel for the Qnix 1440P screen that I bought that died 3 days after purchase. The new screen is PERFECT. BLB is gone, there are are no spotches anywhere, no stuck pixels, and everything looks great. The glossy screen is nice but EXTREMELY reflective. I had to turn the backlight down on my keyboard bcause I can see it in some games.
Nope. If you want to run max settings or close to it, you will need SLI or CF to maintain 60fps @ 1440p.
No, I am running the 780 TI and so far I can run most games at 1440P. 4K is a different challenge.
You don't really need a fresh install.
This display driver uninstaller seems to work with AMD and Nvidia drivers.
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/display_driver_uninstaller_download.html
Uninstall the Nvidia drivers and the AMD drivers (if your previous GPU was AMD) and install the latest drivers. Run the uninstaller even if you have already uninstalled with control panel.
Seems like a driver problem rather than GPU itself causing problems. Try the driver uninstaller above and install the latest drivers.
If that doesn't help just turn off hardware acceleration in flash. By right clicking a youtube vid -> settings -> untick the hardware acceleration box.
Objectively Bad Opinion
Member
Yes. Squeeze in the i5 and you will be fine.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/visit?m=320&q=1866506
Worth getting it? Do you think this will last me 4 years or so?
Worth getting it? Do you think this will last me 4 years or so?
Don't get a reference cooler.
This is my first time looking at building a PC - never made one before and never posted in this thread before. If I'm doing it wrong, I apologise 
I've had someone put together a build on PC Part Picker, and I just wanted to run it through you guys and let me know if it was ok first.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1VGU2
For £490. ($815?)
What kind of performance can I expect from this, and are their any decent improvements to be made for a little bit of extra cash?
Thanks for your help, I'm sorry for my amateurism, completely new to this!
(Going to get someone else to build for me)
edit: I'm as dense as they come, fixed it.
I've had someone put together a build on PC Part Picker, and I just wanted to run it through you guys and let me know if it was ok first.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1VGU2
For £490. ($815?)
What kind of performance can I expect from this, and are their any decent improvements to be made for a little bit of extra cash?
Thanks for your help, I'm sorry for my amateurism, completely new to this!
(Going to get someone else to build for me
)edit: I'm as dense as they come, fixed it.
I'm not sure since I don't live in the UK. However I'm not a fan of reference coolers on GPU's (Nvidia's high end is decent though). Going by current exchange rates that card would be 180 euro and you could get a twin frozr for 20 euro more or a DCII for 22 euro more in the Netherlands. Which are a lot more appealing to me.
This is my first time looking at building a PC - never made one before and never posted in this thread before. If I'm doing it wrong, I apologise
I've had someone put together a build on PC Part Picker, and I just wanted to run it through you guys and let me know if it was ok first.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1VGU2
For £490. ($815?)
What kind of performance can I expect from this, and are their any decent improvements to be made for a little bit of extra cash?
Thanks for your help, I'm sorry for my amateurism, completely new to this!
(Going to get someone else to build for me
Using a power supply to play DVDs? That sure sounds interesting. ;p
enfieldvball
Member
Currently have this mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131668
paired with this GFX card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131484
paired with this CPU (which I know has got to be bogging down my games):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103704
already have a 120gb SSD for my Win7 installation and 8gb DDR3 memory
looking to upgrade my CPU, what's one of the better CPUs that I can get that would be considered an upgrade from mine and help increase FPS in games and what not? The mobo is def. a little older but there has to be something better than the x4 630
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131668
paired with this GFX card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131484
paired with this CPU (which I know has got to be bogging down my games):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103704
already have a 120gb SSD for my Win7 installation and 8gb DDR3 memory
looking to upgrade my CPU, what's one of the better CPUs that I can get that would be considered an upgrade from mine and help increase FPS in games and what not? The mobo is def. a little older but there has to be something better than the x4 630
Prophet Steve
Member
Dude, I'm so new to this I have no idea what sounds silly about that
The list you posted has the power supply also listed as an optical drive.
In the PCPartPicker list it is fine.
A power supply does just that, delivers power and is where you connect all your components on for power. You cannot play discs with it.
Ahh man, balls, I didn't notice my mistake even after it was pointed out
I shall fix that.
The best CPU your board supports is a Phenom II X6 1100T
Here is some benches against the i5 2500k
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=288
Im not sure if it will still bottleneck a 7870, probably depends on the games you play too, though will be much faster than what you have currently.
Sorry can you explain this to me like I am 5. What is a reference cooler?
Sure, you can "run" games, but we are talking max settings while maintaining locked 60fps @ 1440p. I run SLI Titans, and sometimes, can't maintain that in Crysis 3, Tomb Raider, Metro Last Light and etc.
Ahh man, balls, I didn't notice my mistake even after it was pointed out
I shall fix that.
No worries.
What are your goals/aims with your PC? Do you want to play new-gen games, etc? There's a form in the OP, if you fill that out, people will be able to help you better.
Kiru
Member
Coolers by Nvidia or AMD themselves. Better get a card from EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI etc. That's what he means.
Reference Cooler - Usually blower type with blower fan, throw air out the back PCIE part. Not as effective, though the GTX780 cooler is pretty efficient. Good for small build cases where exhausting air outside the case is important.
Aftermarket - Usually large heatsink with multiple fans, no control of the exhaust hot air. Much more efficient for the GPU (not necessarily its surrounding components) and generally run quieter.
No worries.
What are your goals/aims with your PC? Do you want to play new-gen games, etc? There's a form in the OP, if you fill that out, people will be able to help you better.
Budget: £500-£600 UK
Main Use: Rating 2 or 3, play newer games if possible, but mostly for stuff that's out today.
Usage - Only games and internet browsing. Not fussed about DVD's or streaming films or anything like that.
Monitor Resolution: Would be happy to play at 720, 1080 if it works well. Monitor can do those just fine, don't really need it any higher.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: 60 fps is pretty important, but I'm not too fussed about graphics, as long as they're "nice enough".
Looking to reuse any parts?: Nope
When will you build?: Not fussed
Will you be overclocking?: Nope
Something like this?
I assumed you have keyboard/mouse/monitor, and could possibly get Windows from the reddit forums.
Other people explained it pretty well, but a reference cooler is basically the cooler designed by Nvidia or AMD. Non-reference coolers are the designed by vendors (some are better than others). Twin Frozr is one of the coolers on the non-reference cards of MSI. DCII is from Asus.
Beware though the other vendors also sell "reference cards".
With Windows XP support ending I have a question about installing a new OS. I have two hard drives. The first hard drive has two partitions (C: and D
Depends on whether or not you format before installing your new OS. If you format the drive before installing you will lose everything on that drive, but if there's enough free space, you don't need to reformat and your old Windows folder will be renamed to windows.old (user and program files folders will also be renamed.)
You are going to have a hard time running those games at 1080P at max everything. I had GTX 770 sli and even then I coudln't turn PhysX and SSAO up on Metro and get butter smooth frame rates
enfieldvball
Member
Thanks, how much does that generally run for? Not really looking to spend more than $150 tbh if it's an older processor
I'll show it to my mate, thanks for taking the time!
Yeah I have all the gear like that, I'm not an intensive player so I don't mind it being a little rough
I'll show it to my mate, thanks for taking the time!
Yeah I have all the gear like that, I'm not an intensive player so I don't mind it being a little rough
Youll find that most games will run near max settings with a rig like that =D
Its also super compact, heres mine, similar with a GTX 780:
Kiru
Member
Damn, that's definitely compact. Nice build.
So, I guess we agree that SLI or CF wouldn't be "overkill" at 1440p, or even, 1080p. That was response to the original question.
Haha thanks, its my "steam box", sits in my living room, full specs:
Fractal Design Node 304
Asus P8Z77-I DELUXE
i7 3770 @ 4.2Ghz
Samsung Green 2x4GB @ 2133Mhz
Gigabyte GTX 780
WD 1TB HDD and Intel 160GB X25-M series SSD
Seasonic 620W
Coolermaster Hyper 212
Thanks for the link I'll give that a try. Amazon was nice enough to send me a replacement so hopefully everythings gets fixed by tomorrow.
Blak_Status
Member
I have the same build. Node 304, Hyper 212 evo, and GTX 780. I will NEVER do non-modular PSU in a mini itx ever again. My belief is so strong that I think the SFF builds should be changed lol.
Nostremitus
Member
How is the Club 3D R9 270X? NCIX US has it listed for the same price as the standard 270.
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=94044&promoid=1020
Edit: Special price ends today.
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=94044&promoid=1020
Edit: Special price ends today.
jfoul
Member
Heard they are solid cards. The dual fan solution is only $10 more.
Club 3D Radeon R9 270X Royal Queen
Nostremitus
Member
Thanks, now to see if I have the budget to buy now or if I'll have to pay more later.
exmachina64
Banned
This is my first time looking at building a PC - never made one before and never posted in this thread before. If I'm doing it wrong, I apologise
I've had someone put together a build on PC Part Picker, and I just wanted to run it through you guys and let me know if it was ok first.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1VGU2
For £490. ($815?)
What kind of performance can I expect from this, and are their any decent improvements to be made for a little bit of extra cash?
Thanks for your help, I'm sorry for my amateurism, completely new to this!
(Going to get someone else to build for me
edit: I'm as dense as they come, fixed it.
At that price, you should be using an Intel i5.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3kKL8
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