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[Metalmurphy]

DAMMIT!

http://abload.de/img/img_20140110_2005277gk6i.jpg


There's always a little thing to ruin your day...


Argh....

 

[Smokey]

How?

Hot chip

J/k

Maybe

 

[Hazaro]

So much to my surprise, I seem to have ordered the wrong monitor in November. I thought the one I picked out was IPS, when it appears it is not. Rather, only one of the monitors in the series is, but apparently that means Amazon puts up the IPS tags for everything else as well. More disturbing is how I managed to find myself with this one even after using very specific filters in PCPartPicker several times. I'm not sure where the miscommunication took place or even if it was entirely my fault at the time.

I'm kicking myself hard over this.

Anyway, my order still qualifies for a return or exchange with Amazon even though I've been using it for three weeks.

What is the recommended IPS in the $200-250 range around here?

Read the OP: VG23AH isn't available from Amazon.

Can you elaborate in detail over this?

 

[Crimsonsky]

Soo... when will this bitcoin thing die down?

That's the question isn't it? No one really knows. It's a difficult time, see when reference designs are out it's because there isn't enough chips to go around making the non-reference designs. Meaning AMD is still in the process of manufacturing them. That already leads to shortages. Now we have the bitcoin issue of one man buying anywhere from 19-36 cards and the shortage has now become serious. Drying up supply of last years models and this years reference designs. Increasing demand. This will be handled when the partner companies like Asus and Gigabyte start pumping out non-reference designs and meeting that demand. Right now there isn't enough chips out and we have individuals buying extraordinary amounts.

In case it wasn't obvious, no one knows the answer to your question. If I was betting man, I'd say around the beginning of March.

 

[kennah]

Hot chip

J/k

Maybe

Nah. Kid was like 17 and had just upgraded to an i5 and clearly didn't know what the chip was worth. Gave it to me in the i5 box.

Tempted to sell my i7 and use this for a bit since high frames make me nauseous.

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

Ok, took the plunge on the small form factor PC with an i7 4770k, gigabyte gtx 770 4gbs, 120 gbs ssd and a WD 1 tb drive, and 8 gigs of ram. Cost me about $1100 but I'm very much looking forward to it! Came with a free copy of AC4 as well which ive been itching to play since it came out.

Gonna wait and see about getting a gsync monitor in the future. For now, just going to use my TV as the main monitor since it's pretty much going to be a steambox anyhow. I'm excited to play PC games on something other than an overclocked 555m on my laptop, which recently has been showing its age. Tomb Raider made it work for it's 720ps : /

 

[mkenyon]

Which case and PSU did you go with?

 

[Smokey]

Tempted to sell my i7 and use this for a bit since high frames make me nauseous.

wut

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

Which case and PSU did you go with?

Following your specs, I wend with the BitFenix Prodigy in arctic white. It was the cheapest of that type of case I could find that wasn't in the dull gray color. The PSU was a BP550. I figure that it's just enough for this rig @ 550w.

It'll be nice to have a machine that can finally pull off DX11

 

[MadSexual]

Can you elaborate in detail over this?

It's just going to make me look like an idiot, but okay.

My old monitor was starting to dim noticeably. I'd had it for about six years, so I was ready for an upgrade. I did the research and decided I wanted an IPS panel. Like with all other hardware, I ran the filters on PPP to get an idea what my options were to begin narrowing things down. I am CERTAIN the IPS option was ticked every time I did this. I'm thrifty (cheap) and only wanted to target 1080, so I settled on the Asus VS248H-P. You should be laughing now, because this is not an IPS panel. I never really noticed, I suppose, because my old monitor had faded more than I realized. The colors and brightness are a huge improvement over my old display. The viewing angle is good too. In my ignorance, I assumed everything was as I believed it to be.

So today, I got some new hardware and I decided to update the build profile I keep for my pc on PPP. I hadn't put the monitor on yet either, so I run the filters to speed up the search and couldn't find it. I thought it was strange, but then I found out that I was living a lie. It wasn't showing up because I was selecting IPS in the filters. Some more I investigation and Amazon also doesn't say it is IPS (anymore?), but does still put up the IPS glow warning. I'm not sure how I misread something so many times in so many places, but I made a huge mistake.

 

[mkenyon]

If you can't even tell, why does it matter?

Following your specs, I wend with the BitFenix Prodigy in arctic white. It was the cheapest of that type of case I could find that wasn't in the dull gray color. The PSU was a BP550. I figure that if it's just enough for this rig @ 550w.

Solid.

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

If you can't even tell, why does it matter?

Solid.

Thanks for the build! I hadn't assembled a full PC since the Half Life 2/ Doom 3 days. It was nice to not have to do a ton of research to know that this is going to be a damn good machine.

 

[Fallout-with-swords]

Any of you guys have experience buying used from newegg? Specifically GPU or possibly a HDD, I'm guessing its a crap shoot but just wondering if anyone recommend it or is against it.

 

[TheD]

DAMMIT!

http://abload.de/img/img_20140110_2005277gk6i.jpg


There's always a little thing to ruin your day...


Argh....

I am not sure what is more surprising, the cards having DVI-D only or you using an analog monitor with a R290.

 

[kennah]

wut

I'm an embarrassment, it's true. I don't deserve what I have.

I am not sure what is more surprising, the cards having DVI-D only or you using an analog monitor with a R290.

CRTs are still amazing to use.

 

[TheD]

CRTs are still amazing to use.

I did not think of that, I was just thinking he was trying to use a horrible LCD with only analog input.

 

[JCizzle]

Following your specs, I wend with the BitFenix Prodigy in arctic white. It was the cheapest of that type of case I could find that wasn't in the dull gray color. The PSU was a BP550. I figure that it's just enough for this rig @ 550w.

It'll be nice to have a machine that can finally pull off DX11

I have a very similar build, rock on!

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

I have a very similar build, rock on!

How's it handling gaming @ 1080p? I'm excited to do that thing where you install all of your old game on your new rig and watch it go from the 25-30 fps you had gotten used to at compromised settings to maxing the majority of them out at what will hopefully be 60 fps.

 

[JCizzle]

How's it handling gaming @ 1080p? I'm excited to do that thing where you install all of your old game on your new rig and watch it go from the 25-30 fps you had gotten used to at compromised settings to maxing the majority of them out at what will hopefully be 60 fps.

It can nearly max anything that I've ever thrown at it. And this is with a 3750k and 770 2gb. As long as you can stay away from fully maxing things like AA options, it shouldn't be a problem to hit 60fps on nearly anything. Mine can be a bit louder than my full size build, but that's only because I had to use a smaller cpu heat sink fan in the smaller case (and, thus, more rpm) I think. Not horribly loud though.

 

[mkenyon]

How's it handling gaming @ 1080p? I'm excited to do that thing where you install all of your old game on your new rig and watch it go from the 25-30 fps you had gotten used to at compromised settings to maxing the majority of them out at what will hopefully be 120 fps.

Fixed.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Extra RAM gets here today (hopefully). Hope this stops me from getting random CTDs in Skyrim, I might have went a little crazy on the HD texture packs.

 

[NoRéN]

It's just going to make me look like an idiot, but okay.

My old monitor was starting to dim noticeably. I'd had it for about six years, so I was ready for an upgrade. I did the research and decided I wanted an IPS panel. Like with all other hardware, I ran the filters on PPP to get an idea what my options were to begin narrowing things down. I am CERTAIN the IPS option was ticked every time I did this. I'm thrifty (cheap) and only wanted to target 1080, so I settled on the Asus VS248H-P. You should be laughing now, because this is not an IPS panel. I never really noticed, I suppose, because my old monitor had faded more than I realized. The colors and brightness are a huge improvement over my old display. The viewing angle is good too. In my ignorance, I assumed everything was as I believed it to be.

So today, I got some new hardware and I decided to update the build profile I keep for my pc on PPP. I hadn't put the monitor on yet either, so I run the filters to speed up the search and couldn't find it. I thought it was strange, but then I found out that I was living a lie. It wasn't showing up because I was selecting IPS in the filters. Some more I investigation and Amazon also doesn't say it is IPS (anymore?), but does still put up the IPS glow warning. I'm not sure how I misread something so many times in so many places, but I made a huge mistake.

Haha. I got the same monitor. I too recall it saying IPS in the description althought that is not why I got it since crosschecking with the asus site stated otherwise.

The amazon page still states this:

Product Alert:IPS (In-Plane-Switching) is a new technology for LCD displays that offers users wider viewing angles and bolder colors by allowing more light to pass through the panel. As a result, IPS panels can exhibit a slight glow around the edges and corners (also known as light bleed), which is entirely normal.

I'll be returning mine as well but that's for dead pixels.

 

[IMACOMPUTA]

What's the best nvidia bang for your buck sli under $800?

 

[kharma45]

What's the best nvidia bang for your buck sli under $800?

760 in the mid range and the 780 at the high end.

 

[mkenyon]

What's the best nvidia bang for your buck sli under $800?

The 780Ti is the card to buy at that price.

 

[LeleSocho]

Is there a video card above 2tflop/s that has a tdp of 110w?

 

[kharma45]

The 780Ti is the card to buy at that price.

Is it really bang for buck next to the regular 780?

 

[Bydobob]

Well, after being underwhelmed by next gen consoles and the Steam Machine reveals I’ve decided to build my own rig. Spec:

CPU Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core £167.99
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing £23.90
Motherboard Asus Z87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 £112.90
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 £60.81
Storage Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" SSD £100.00
Western Digital Scorpio Black 750GB 2.5" 7200RPM £45.99
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB £379.99
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WDN3800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 £19.98
Case Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower £58.78
Power Supply Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V £87.18
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer £17.95
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) £78.50
Monitor Samsung S24C570HL 23.6" £149.99
Keyboard A4Tech G800V £18.00
Mouse Cooler Master SGM-2001-BLON1 Wired Optical £14.53

Total £1336.49

As you can see this is a full system including monitor and my wallet is hurting! Initially the idea was to spend under a grand, but as I started researching the parts it made more sense to build something that won’t need upgrading for several years. Memory and storage is pretty light as I won’t be using this PC for much else than gaming. I’ve also scrimped a little on the keyboard, mouse and drive but they suit their limited purpose. I was pretty specific about the monitor, I play a lot of shoot ‘em ups on Mame and having vertical rotation was a must.

Just a word on PC Parts Picker which I used for this build. Some of the items added delivery charges not listed, and the Asus mobo took me to an entirely separate Amazon listing at £126 as the Amazon supplied stock had run out. Took a bit of time and creativity to get everything down to the total price at the bottom which was slightly annoying. Anyway, can’t wait for all the parts to arrive so I can get stuck in.

 

[Hazaro]

Going for a 760 and 550W unit now could be a good option if you don't want to lay that down all at once. New GPUs aren't too far away and should hit another nice sweet spot after the top models come out.

 

[kharma45]

Well, after being underwhelmed by next gen consoles and the Steam Machine reveals I’ve decided to build my own rig. Spec:

CPU Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core £167.99
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing £23.90
Motherboard Asus Z87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 £112.90
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 £60.81
Storage Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" SSD £100.00
Western Digital Scorpio Black 750GB 2.5" 7200RPM £45.99
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB £379.99
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WDN3800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 £19.98
Case Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower £58.78
Power Supply Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V £87.18
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer £17.95
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) £78.50
Monitor Samsung S24C570HL 23.6" £149.99
Keyboard A4Tech G800V £18.00
Mouse Cooler Master SGM-2001-BLON1 Wired Optical £14.53

Total £1336.49

As you can see this is a full system including monitor and my wallet is hurting! Initially the idea was to spend under a grand, but as I started researching the parts it made more sense to build something that won’t need upgrading for several years. Memory and storage is pretty light as I won’t be using this PC for much else than gaming. I’ve also scrimped a little on the keyboard, mouse and drive but they suit their limited purpose. I was pretty specific about the monitor, I play a lot of shoot ‘em ups on Mame and having vertical rotation was a must.

Just a word on PC Parts Picker which I used for this build. Some of the items added delivery charges not listed, and the Asus mobo took me to an entirely separate Amazon listing at £126 as the Amazon supplied stock had run out. Took a bit of time and creativity to get everything down to the total price at the bottom which was slightly annoying. Anyway, can’t wait for all the parts to arrive so I can get stuck in.

Get 8.1 from here and you won't even need the DVD drive http://www.reddit.com/r/softwareswa...etail_windows_81_pro_keys_w_paypal_225_sales/

Under a grand for this. You don't need as fancy a PSU, cut out the DVD drive and that Windows OEM edition. Better value SSD, cheaper but still good mouse, 280X can get close to a 780 when overclocked and the money saved could go towards an upgrade at the 20nm launch. Stock on the 280X can be hard to get, if one wasn't available the 760 like Haz said is a good bet for something a little less powerful, bit cheaper but still potent. This would be my choice of one as EVGAs warranty is top notch and they've an advanced RMA too http://www.cclonline.com/product/12...13/?siteID=8BacdVP0GFs-2UST9mze3KiHfaJvf3HhoA

If silence is key then the MSI is quieter but their RMA isn't as good http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/...tm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=PCPartPicker

Swapped too to an LG IPS monitor, they're unbeatable at this price. Case you can change back if you want but the 200R is very solid for the money. Take a look and see.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.90 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£105.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£105.13 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.98 @ Dabs)
Monitor: LG IPS234V-PN.AEK 23.4" Monitor (£114.99 @ Amazon UK)
OS: Windows 8.1 Pro (£15.18)
PSU: Be Quiet! Pure Power L8 530W Power Supply (£60.55)
GPU: 3GB Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X OC WINDFORCE + BF4 (item due on Jan 13) (£228.28)
Mouse: TeckNet High Precision Gaming Mouse with 2,000 DPI, 6 Button, 40g Extra weight (£9.97)
Keyboard: Microsoft ANB-00006 600 Wired Keyboard (£9.45)
RAM: G-Skill 8GB Ripjaws X DDR3 2133MHz Dual Kit - Red (£62.34)
Total: £994.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-11 00:03 GMT+0000)

 

[Smokey]

Didn't realize the Thermaltake Level 10 I liked...was a LE with only 300 made...and was $1,000

o_o

The regular ones look quite "gamerish"

 

[mkenyon]

Is it really bang for buck next to the regular 780?

Not really.

Didn't realize the Thermaltake Level 10 I liked...was a LE with only 300 made...and was $1,000

o_o

Trust me, saw that tons of times in person. Your FT02 is nicer.

 

[HoosTrax]

Didn't realize the Thermaltake Level 10 I liked...was a LE with only 300 made...and was $1,000

o_o

The regular ones look quite "gamerish"

Ah ha, thanks for reminding me of which case that new Razer Christine project reminds me of.

 

[Enthus]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014299&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL011014&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL011014-_-EMC-011014-Index-_-LCDMonitors-_-24014299-L04B

Yea or nay? And any recommended alternatives, if nay?

 

[Bydobob]

Going for a 760 and 550W unit now could be a good option if you don't want to lay that down all at once. New GPUs aren't too far away and should hit another nice sweet spot after the top models come out.

My original build was more modest but after looking at some benchmarks figured the extra coin of the 780 was worth it. Sound logic in waiting for prices to come down of course, there always is...

Get 8.1 from here and you won't even need the DVD drive http://www.reddit.com/r/softwareswa...etail_windows_81_pro_keys_w_paypal_225_sales/

Under a grand for this. You don't need as fancy a PSU, cut out the DVD drive and that Windows OEM edition. Better value SSD, cheaper but still good mouse, 280X can get close to a 780 when overclocked and the money saved could go towards an upgrade at the 20nm launch. Stock on the 280X can be hard to get, if one wasn't available the 760 like Haz said is a good bet for something a little less powerful, bit cheaper but still potent. This would be my choice of one as EVGAs warranty is top notch and they've an advanced RMA too http://www.cclonline.com/product/12...13/?siteID=8BacdVP0GFs-2UST9mze3KiHfaJvf3HhoA

If silence is key then the MSI is quieter but their RMA isn't as good http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/...tm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=PCPartPicker

Swapped too to an LG IPS monitor, they're unbeatable at this price. Case you can change back if you want but the 200R is very solid for the money. Take a look and see.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.90 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£105.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£105.13 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.98 @ Dabs)
Monitor: LG IPS234V-PN.AEK 23.4" Monitor (£114.99 @ Amazon UK)
OS: Windows 8.1 Pro (£15.18)
PSU: Be Quiet! Pure Power L8 530W Power Supply (£60.55)
GPU: 3GB Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X OC WINDFORCE + BF4 (item due on Jan 13) (£228.28)
Mouse: TeckNet High Precision Gaming Mouse with 2,000 DPI, 6 Button, 40g Extra weight (£9.97)
Keyboard: Microsoft ANB-00006 600 Wired Keyboard (£9.45)
RAM: G-Skill 8GB Ripjaws X DDR3 2133MHz Dual Kit - Red (£62.34)
Total: £994.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-11 00:03 GMT+0000)

Thanks for the suggestions. Ultimately passed on the latest range of AMD cards due to the noise, but the 280X was certainly one I looked at very closely. Didn’t know about the RMA of MSI, but as you guessed the noise was the clincher. That LG monitor doesn’t appear to rotate 90 degrees according to the user manual I downloaded. And you've added £5 to my SSD.

You’re probably right about the PSU, but I wanted one that would service a future upgrade and modular because I'm useless with cables! Thanks for the 8.1 key, that’s something I will look into.

 

[mkenyon]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014299&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL011014&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL011014-_-EMC-011014-Index-_-LCDMonitors-_-24014299-L04B

Yea or nay? And any recommended alternatives, if nay?

$120 is hard to beat.

 

[fatigues_gasolini]

I have a MSI 7950 Boost that Im not using since I went to a smaller itx case. How much is one of those worth?

 

[mkenyon]

I have a MSI 7950 Boost that Im not using since I went to a smaller itx case. How much is one of those worth?

$300-400

 

[Diablos]

DAMMIT!

http://abload.de/img/img_20140110_2005277gk6i.jpg


There's always a little thing to ruin your day...


Argh....

Ahh, that kind of stuff is the worst.

 

[Diablos]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014299&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL011014&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL011014-_-EMC-011014-Index-_-LCDMonitors-_-24014299-L04B

Yea or nay? And any recommended alternatives, if nay?

My LED: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236288

 

[- J - D -]

Get 8.1 from here and you won't even need the DVD drive http://www.reddit.com/r/softwareswa...etail_windows_81_pro_keys_w_paypal_225_sales/

Thanks for sharing this! I'm building a new rig once the new gpus are announced, but it wouldn't hurt to pick up Win 8.1 now. That recent Win 7 vs. Win 8 thread got me thinking I should move on from Win 7.

 

[Diablos]

Thanks for sharing this! I'm building a new rig once the new gpus are announced, but it wouldn't hurt to pick up Win 8.1 now. That recent Win 7 vs. Win 8 thread got me thinking I should move on from Win 7.

I keep hearing there are SSD improvements in Win8. Given my Samsung's performance already I can't imagine how it could possibly get any better, unless this has to do with reliability or something.

 

[- J - D -]

I keep hearing there are SSD improvements in Win8. Given my Samsung's performance already I can't imagine how it could possibly get any better, unless this has to do with reliability or something.

Something we both can look forward to then! My SSD speeds are already pretty good on my current Win 7 pc, so at this point anything better would just be gravy.

That Win 7 vs. 8 thread was a rollercoaster, it was. Very informative though.

 

[Stephen_drewz]

Hi GAF.

Just hoping a few more knowledgeable people can chime in with their opinions on this.

I currently have an i7 4930K which is paired up with SLI GTX570. I want to get a new graphics card this week, possibly even today but I am having a hard time deciding which one. The three choices I have been looking at are the GTX 780, GTX 780TI and to go a bit different, the 290X. I will admit I'm not the biggest ATI fan(I had lots of troubles back when the 5000 series released and it left a sour taste in my mouth) but if the result is the 290x is better value then I will consider.

Just wondering if someone could offer their opinion on the matter? Also should I be too concerned about the brand?

Is there a good site for seeing each card and the FPS it gets in games? I know one for notebook cards but it doesn't seem to do desktops. I can only find benchmarks which just give a total in points. It shows the 780TI as the clear winner but it doesn't really give an idea on the FPS difference for the cost.

Thanks.

 

[maneil99]

How often should I redo my CPU paste, D14 here, also how often should I clean it, I re did most of the parts and cleaned it towards the end of August, No pets but I have hairy legs and eat somewhat close.

 

[Smokey]

Hi GAF.

Just hoping a few more knowledgeable people can chime in with their opinions on this.

I currently have an i7 4930K which is paired up with SLI GTX570. I want to get a new graphics card this week, possibly even today but I am having a hard time deciding which one. The three choices I have been looking at are the GTX 780, GTX 780TI and to go a bit different, the 290X. I will admit I'm not the biggest ATI fan(I had lots of troubles back when the 5000 series released and it left a sour taste in my mouth) but if the result is the 290x is better value then I will consider.

Just wondering if someone could offer their opinion on the matter? Also should I be too concerned about the brand?

Is there a good site for seeing each card and the FPS it gets in games? I know one for notebook cards but it doesn't seem to do desktops. I can only find benchmarks which just give a total in points. It shows the 780TI as the clear winner but it doesn't really give an idea on the FPS difference for the cost.

Thanks.

Do you use nvidia specific technologies? Shield, downsampling, shadowplay, upcoming gsync? It any of this interests you then stick with nvidia.

 

[Diablos]

Something we both can look forward to then! My SSD speeds are already pretty good on my current Win 7 pc, so at this point anything better would just be gravy.

That Win 7 vs. 8 thread was a rollercoaster, it was. Very informative though.

Link?

 

[Stephen_drewz]

Do you use nvidia specific technologies? Shield, downsampling, shadowplay, upcoming gsync? It any of this interests you then stick with nvidia.

I have played around with Downsampling before but it always pushes everything on my second monitor to the right so I am constantly re positioning my windows but Shadowplay is something I would definitely use.

Didn't even consider that, thanks!

 

[- J - D -]

Link?

This one: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=748091&highlight=windows

 

[nicjac]

Hey guys,

finally received most of the parts for my build. Just waiting on the CPU from Amazon (I received many other parts from them already, not sure why they chose a random carrier for the CPU).

First observation: damn, the Define R4 is such a beautiful and well made case. Last time I built a computer was about 12 years ago and it makes such a huge difference.

I have a huge cooling fan (DH14). Would you recommend installing it on the MOBO before putting the latter in the case or before? Anyone with experience on this matter?

I will probably be back with more questions once everything is here