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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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Crimsonsky
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If these are true, and it hardly matters if they are, that doesn't translate to better performance in games. Meaning there is no point. Saying 8 is faster than 7 is a completely nebulous and perfunctory statement. It says nothing. Faster in what? Opening Chrome, running games? Nope. Apps? Worthless. 1 second faster compression and faster boot times are what you get, unless you have a SSD then they are so close as to not matter again. That's the problem with Windows 8, it isn't bad, it just isn't a significant enough upgrade to care about.
Task manager is functional in 7 and you can download a third-party version if you want it to be more in depth. Dragging and dropping one file into another hasn't needed to change since Windows 95. Windows 8 being upgraded longer is completely irrelevant. By the time 7 stops getting updated something newer than 8 will already be out. No less than three major OS's released before XP stopped getting patched. The new Direct X isn't out so it, like Windows 8, doesn't matter.
More overhead doesn't necessarily mean slower. Windows 8 has a big problem, the new things it brought to the table are either so miniscule as to not matter, or best turned off or bypassed completely on a desktop PC. Leaving you with Windows 7-2 The Return: Sorry we removed the Start button. In turn, Windows 8 can safely be bypassed and/or ignored without anything being lost.
In short, buy whichever OS is cheapest.
I bought a Corsair AF140 Quiet Edition fan and placed it in the back. I moved the one that was originally in the back to the front of the case. Two front, one back.
Reposting my pic:
Sold that one awhile back to a GAFer.
Moved both stock fans to the front. Spectre Pro 120mm on the Corsair H60 and one more for exhaust out of the top.
The thing ran silent, and that 7970 stayed cool without a problem. It was actually more quiet than the watercooled rig I had at the time. Not as much as my current, though.
IHeartTSwift
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Hey everyone. I'd really appreciate some help with building a desktop. This is gonna be my first time so guidance would be much appreciated.
Current Specs:
Just know its a crappy laptop and anything better is fine.
Budget: Price Range
$1000 America
Main Use: Rate 1-5
4/5 - I'm using this desktop for music production and gaming/livestreaming.
Monitor Resolution:
1920-1080 and I already have an ASUS 23in monitor that I love.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well:
Dota 2, livestreaming applications (OBS I think), music production software (Logic Abelton maybe)
When will you build?: Do you have a deadline?
I'd like to order everything by next friday.
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, No, Maybe (This means yes!)
No.
Other thoughts: I also thought about getting one of the 900-975$ builds from that spreadsheet but if anyone has a better idea for me that would be great.
Current Specs:
Just know its a crappy laptop and anything better is fine.
Budget: Price Range
$1000 America
Main Use: Rate 1-5
4/5 - I'm using this desktop for music production and gaming/livestreaming.
Monitor Resolution:
1920-1080 and I already have an ASUS 23in monitor that I love.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well:
Dota 2, livestreaming applications (OBS I think), music production software (Logic Abelton maybe)
When will you build?: Do you have a deadline?
I'd like to order everything by next friday.
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, No, Maybe (This means yes!)
No.
Other thoughts: I also thought about getting one of the 900-975$ builds from that spreadsheet but if anyone has a better idea for me that would be great.
apart from a touch screen the lenovo y series w/sli might meet your needs. 1080 might be hard to find in a 14" though touch screens do sometimes come in crazy high resolutions.
My WD Black died after 1 year and a half. Took down my OS and most of my games. Thankfully nothing too important.. I think. I;ll try reviving it down the road but right now I want to get my PC running and I want to finally get an SSD for it.
Which one should I get? Are Samsung 840 EVOs stil top of the line? I also need another HDD for big files and holding my games, so.. if anyone could recommend me one that won't falter in less than 2 yearsplease let me know
FUN FACT! That PC has a 7 year old Hitachi HDD that is still alive and kicking.
My Specs:
3770K
GTX670
16GB DDR3
Which one should I get? Are Samsung 840 EVOs stil top of the line? I also need another HDD for big files and holding my games, so.. if anyone could recommend me one that won't falter in less than 2 yearsplease let me know
FUN FACT! That PC has a 7 year old Hitachi HDD that is still alive and kicking.
My Specs:
3770K
GTX670
16GB DDR3
Should I build a new PC now or wait another year and see if seemingly poor optimizations are going to be frequent?
While I was banned I saw threads about how Watch_Dogs and some other game had some stupidly high recommended settings.
I don't care that much about resolutions and photo realistic foliage so I was thinking of sticking with my current build for a little while longer, not sure how that's going to hold up though.
I have a 7870 2GB and i5 3350. The way some of those recommended and even minimum requirements were looking, looks like those won't be doing the job in a year or two
While I was banned I saw threads about how Watch_Dogs and some other game had some stupidly high recommended settings.
I don't care that much about resolutions and photo realistic foliage so I was thinking of sticking with my current build for a little while longer, not sure how that's going to hold up though.
I have a 7870 2GB and i5 3350. The way some of those recommended and even minimum requirements were looking, looks like those won't be doing the job in a year or two
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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Will check them out. Thanks!
Your i5 will last you the generation probably. The 7870 will need to be upgraded due to VRAM constrictions eventually but I think you've got more time than what you might think.
zeroeffect
Member
Anyone have experience with this headphone?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BWUHHYE/?tag=neogaf0e-20
My friend recommended them to me and he said the sound quality beats many $250 headsets. I find that hard to believe but yea, I'd like some opinions. He said they were better than what's recommended in the op's post Superlux HD668B too. Anyone have any experience with this brand?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BWUHHYE/?tag=neogaf0e-20
My friend recommended them to me and he said the sound quality beats many $250 headsets. I find that hard to believe but yea, I'd like some opinions. He said they were better than what's recommended in the op's post Superlux HD668B too. Anyone have any experience with this brand?
How do you guys make the cable management look so easy and perfect? I spent hours trying to make it look good in my Shinobi XL (I'm starting to hate this case), but it looks pretty bad.
Edit:
I have both.
Edit:
I have both.
BIGWORM
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A good cable-manageable case, and MODULAR PSUs lol.
How do you guys make the cable management look so easy and perfect? I spent hours trying to make it look good in my Shinobi XL (I'm starting to hate this case), but it looks pretty bad.
Edit:
I have both.
Just takes time and experience, usually after routing cables around, soon you'll think of a more creative way to do it.
My latest case doesn't even have cable management behind the mobo and still looks great. Took couple of hours from an experienced builder to get it right though, to start with it was pretty awful.
PrimeSauce
Banned
Is now a good time to buy a PC or should I maybe wait a bit for next gen CPU and GPUs?
Is the WD Blue supposed to be fairly audible the entire time it's powered up? So far I havent moved any data to the new machine so it's usually idle, but when it powers up on first access it's louder than my fans, and louder than the actual noises it makes when accessing data. It's like a constant humming sound.
Maybe I haven't thought about mechanical drives making noise other than the usual "crunching" sound on read/writes, dunno.
Maybe I haven't thought about mechanical drives making noise other than the usual "crunching" sound on read/writes, dunno.
I am experiencing a sort of lag issue when moving applications around on screen with my mouse. If, for example, I have two applications on screen at the same time (not full screen) if I move the one at the front around I can see where I have moved it, it is lagging and causing it to replicate and then disappear. I have no graphics card in at the moment as it was RMA'd and awaiting replacement. Everything is running great however and having an SSD is such a welcome change I wish I had one years ago! I hope that explains what I am meaning.
If you are going to buy nowish, atleast wait for the Haswell refresh in mid May.
But if you decide to wait, it depends on what you have now.
How do you guys make the cable management look so easy and perfect? I spent hours trying to make it look good in my Shinobi XL (I'm starting to hate this case), but it looks pretty bad.
Edit:
I have both.
I'm curious to see what yours look like. Mind posting a pic?
I have the 668B's I bought for testing purposes. I don't know how the ergonomics would compare, but I could not wear these for extended periods. The 681s do look more comfy though.
In terms of sound, they're great. No fucking way they compare to $250 cans, but they're good. Maybe he meant the overpriced crappy $250 headsets like Astros and the like....
WHAT
That case was a total breeze to do cable management in. Couple revisions of mine:
That last one is with 8 fans, a pump, three LED strips, 2 twin tailed LEDs and three GPUs on top of all the standard stuff. C'mon now.
Zip ties, lots and lots of zip ties. There's a stupid amount of room on the back panel. Use all of it, especially the room on the back side of the 5.25" bay enclosure.
Unless this is for enterprise, look at: Crucial M500, Samsung 840 Evo AND Pro, Crucial M6, any Plextor drives, Kingston HyperX, Kingston V300, loads of others. Buy whatever is cheapest. They're all stupid fast, and they're all stupid reliable. Like 10-80 years reliable.
Oh not yet. I got home to late. You seriously don't understand how shit this PC is. Linux on my rig, from on button to browser is like 10 seconds. Can I use one of those keys to download the iso, install the iso on my new rig, and then put in a proper key.
molnizzle
Member
So. What are the best practices these days regarding IQ settings?
- AA
- AF
- VSync
- etc.
Force via GPU or use the in-game options? I have a 750 Ti.
For triple buffering, is nVidia Inspector sufficient or should I still download D3D Overrider?
Oh and is Fraps still the best method for checking frame rate?
New PC... it's been a while. 😅
- AA
- AF
- VSync
- etc.
Force via GPU or use the in-game options? I have a 750 Ti.
For triple buffering, is nVidia Inspector sufficient or should I still download D3D Overrider?
Oh and is Fraps still the best method for checking frame rate?
New PC... it's been a while. 😅
PrimeSauce
Banned
Just get a new GPU, even a non K 2nd gen i5 is fine.
Depending on what you want to spend get a 770 GTX for 300-350, or a 780 for 500.
Here you go.
It doesn't look much different, today.
I know! You were the one, who recommended me the case, because I wanted to do water cooling with it.
Don't know, if you remember, but I planned on getting orange liquid with orange fans etc.
Kiru
Member
Why don't you RMA the faulty drive? WD is pretty good in that regard. Black Drives also have 5 years warranty I think.My WD Black died after 1 year and a half. Took down my OS and most of my games. Thankfully nothing too important.. I think. I;ll try reviving it down the road but right now I want to get my PC running and I want to finally get an SSD for it.
Which one should I get? Are Samsung 840 EVOs stil top of the line? I also need another HDD for big files and holding my games, so.. if anyone could recommend me one that won't falter in less than 2 yearsplease let me know
FUN FACT! That PC has a 7 year old Hitachi HDD that is still alive and kicking.
My Specs:
3770K
GTX670
16GB DDR3
PrimeSauce
Banned
Objectively Bad Opinion
Member
They're good. Big, comfortable after they loosen a bit (~week), sound good for gaming, nice for music also. Better amped.
Sounds like you don't have graphics acceleration. Install the drivers for your integrated graphics.
Hey guys! Is this good for the price point ? Can I expect this to be durable and usable at least for this gen of games ?Obviously, I expect to use it for my studies as well. http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...spx?path=84b0e7ee6ac11dc81fb7e10acff8d455en02
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
What are some good (reputable) sites for hardware news and reviews, particularly PC stuff?
I'd like to expand my browsing a bit but been out of touch with the PC hardware side for years.
I'd like to expand my browsing a bit but been out of touch with the PC hardware side for years.
what's wrong with this one ? assuming I don't want to build my own.
I'd say http://techreport.com/ and http://www.anandtech.com/ are the most reputable English-language sites for general HW reviews. And http://www.realworldtech.com/ if you actually want to know how stuff works
Objectively Bad Opinion
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1000 dollar build with a 300 dollar build's GPU
Actual performance, good writing, and top notch methodology: TechReport and PCPerspective. Literally, those are the only two you need. Everything else is way below their standards.
More in depth, for PSUs: JohnnyGuru and Overclock3d. For cases/cooling: Overclock3d, HardwareCanucks, and Martin's Liquid Lab.
Anand is too hot and cold for me to suggest anything. I've had it out with a couple of their writers who more or less said "but doing things right takes too much time". I'd say they're great for features, and generally worthless for reviews.I'd say http://techreport.com/ and http://www.anandtech.com/ are the most reputable English-language sites for general HW reviews. And http://www.realworldtech.com/ if you actually want to know how stuff works
http://imgur.com/a/VxaHl
Linear gains in games where CPU matters. Skyrim, Source, any online MP game, Civ, UE3 games.
Huge. the 4670K can be over clocked with a Z87 motherboard, giving an extra 600-1ghz of speed for the cost of an aftermarket heat sink and fan ($30-50)
IHeartTSwift
Member
Hey I posted on the previous page earlier about getting help. Could someone please take a look at it? I hope I gave enough info.
thanks guys.
I am not very knowledge when it comes to these things...so yeah.That's why I am resorting to a pre-built one.
I see.. I'm asking this because i can get 2 different bundles:
1.- Z87 + 4gb RAM + i5 4440 for $400
2.- Z87 + 8Gb RAM + i5 4670k for $500
It's the cheapest I'll ever find them in México, a $100 difference is a lot, I could use them to get a good case that's why I was wondering if it was worth it
Quick question, how is the fan controller on the R4 supposed to control all of my fans? I plan to add an additional fan to the front to have 3 fans total. If I'm not mistaken, my fans will plug into the motherboard right? And then does the fan speed switch on the R4 also plug into a spot on the motherboard reserved for a fan switch or what?
$100 for an upgraded processor and double the RAM seems good to me, but I'm no expert
$100 for an upgraded processor and double the RAM seems good to me, but I'm no expert
zeroeffect
Member
Thanks for the opinion on the headphones guys. I might get a mixamp with it.
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