Garou
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Get the GPU, the CPU is still fine with its overclock.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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Get the GPU, the CPU is still fine with its overclock.
Agreed I'd only upgrade the GPU. That i7 is still great.
That's not what I recommended you
That's not what I recommended you
Kaveri reviews
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7677/amd-kaveri-review-a8-7600-a10-7850k
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...he-wait-for-the-first-true-heterogeneous-chip
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2014/01/14/amd-a8-7600-kaveri-review/1
http://techreport.com/review/25908/amd-a8-7600-kaveri-processor-reviewed
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-A8-7600-Kaveri-APU-Review-HSA-Arrives
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7677/amd-kaveri-review-a8-7600-a10-7850k
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...he-wait-for-the-first-true-heterogeneous-chip
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2014/01/14/amd-a8-7600-kaveri-review/1
http://techreport.com/review/25908/amd-a8-7600-kaveri-processor-reviewed
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-A8-7600-Kaveri-APU-Review-HSA-Arrives
Someone called kharma recommended this for me. Not sure whether to trust his picks though, but here it is.
PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2AGQa
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2AGQa/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2AGQa/benchmarks/
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£52.73 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£129.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Avexir Core series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.90 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£100.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£114.08 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (£398.35 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Desktop Case (£115.94 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£108.77 @ CCL Computers)
Other: Windows 8.1 Pro (£15.18)
Total: £1262.93
Any thoughts?
There you are.
PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2AGQa
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2AGQa/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2AGQa/benchmarks/
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£52.73 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£129.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Avexir Core series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.90 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£100.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£114.08 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (£398.35 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Desktop Case (£115.94 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£108.77 @ CCL Computers)
Other: Windows 8.1 Pro (£15.18)
Total: £1262.93
Any thoughts?
That's not what I recommended you
There you are.
Prophet Steve
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Someone called kharma recommended this for me. Not sure whether to trust his picks though, but here it is.
PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2AGQa
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2AGQa/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2AGQa/benchmarks/
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£52.73 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£129.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Avexir Core series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.90 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£100.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£114.08 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (£398.35 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Desktop Case (£115.94 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£108.77 @ CCL Computers)
Other: Windows 8.1 Pro (£15.18)
Total: £1262.93
Any thoughts?
There you are.
Uh, yes, I'd say he is fairly trustworthy in this thread, to say the least.
The power supply seems like it is maybe a bit much, unless you want to add another card or something later on.
CPU is more than enough. I upgraded from a 920 at 4.2GhZ to a 4770K and in games there isn't too much of a different. Going with the GPU should give you a visible and noticeable upgrade. Unless you are doing other CPU intensive tasks (like encoding) I'd stick with the CPU for a little longer.
it is but we've nothing else in the UK bar stuff near that price for a Gold one. Bar that you're jumping down to £65 or so for bronze.
corsair rm falls in-between but I've not seen enough of it yet.
Read the reviews six posts ahead of yours.
Get a corsair if you can then, preferable 80+ Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum.
The GPU upgrade would have more of an effect. Get the GTX 770.
No soldering involved. I glanced at the PDF instructions, and it didn't seem any more involved than what you would go through to clean out the inside of your keyboard (namely, prying the lid off) or general DIY computer stuff.
Prophet Steve
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That makes sense, can never hurt to pay much on a power supply.
Doesn't look to hard, I don't like how it changes the monitor to an external power supply. I also didn't know before but I don't like how the monitor stand attaches to the housing not the frame, means you can't debezel them....
Prophet Steve
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Seems doable, Depending on the price difference and whether it will be available at all in Europe I'd probably take the build-in one though.
That is if I have enough money to get one anyway.
The only thing that I think justifies these is an ultra SFF PC that doesn't even have expansion slots. Could be pretty rad.
Compute is a bit underwhelming, but better than I thought based on recent leaks.
What are your thoughts?
batman2million
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So I'm thinking of selling my Asus VE278Q and getting a Asus MX279H. Is it worth upgrading from a TN to an IPS?
Only you can answer that.
batman2million
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Yeah, my answer is looking like a big no. Not a big need to upgrade, rather wait for 4k to become mainstream.
I am looking into doing some more renovations for my gaming area and pc.
So can someone recommend me:
1. A good 750w Modular PSU - the one I have right now isn't modular and is causing a mess around my PC. Will sell it once i get a modular one.
2. Power Surge to safely put in 2 consoles, TV. PC, monitor and PC speakers.
1. One from the OP. Coolermaster V700 perhaps? You certain you need 750W?
2. Something expensive. Just make sure you replace it every two years or so.
Someone called kharma recommended this for me. Not sure whether to trust his picks though, but here it is.
PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2AGQa
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2AGQa/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2AGQa/benchmarks/
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£52.73 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£129.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Avexir Core series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.90 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£100.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£114.08 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (£398.35 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Desktop Case (£115.94 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£108.77 @ CCL Computers)
Other: Windows 8.1 Pro (£15.18)
Total: £1262.93
Any thoughts?
There you are.
I would swap that 780 to a EVGA GTX 780 Superclocked with ACX cooling. Its only £2 more and much better performance.
Derpcrawler
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Ok, I have around 1800-2000USD to spend and I thought about building new PC.
Currently I run
Core i7-860
8Gb DDR3-1600
GTX780
250Gb SSD
Now I will just carry over my SSD, but what about GTX780? Is it worth selling it and buying GTX780Ti? Or maybe buy 2nd GTX780? I don't really expect Maxwell to be anything but 28nm so I don't expect to upgrade to it. R9 290 is way too expensive and actually cost as much as 780Ti which is crazy (all those lightcoin miners).
I am also planning on building on new chassis, probably Corsair 750D and want to switch to liquid cooling, probably Corsair H100i or H110, so that will be extra cost. Actually the only things I can carry over from my old PC are SSD and GPU.
Should I build on X79 platform or go for LGA1150 and Core i7 4770k? Or even wait for LGA2011-A? I am confused Gaf, help me built my dream machine
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Currently I run
Core i7-860
8Gb DDR3-1600
GTX780
250Gb SSD
Now I will just carry over my SSD, but what about GTX780? Is it worth selling it and buying GTX780Ti? Or maybe buy 2nd GTX780? I don't really expect Maxwell to be anything but 28nm so I don't expect to upgrade to it. R9 290 is way too expensive and actually cost as much as 780Ti which is crazy (all those lightcoin miners).
I am also planning on building on new chassis, probably Corsair 750D and want to switch to liquid cooling, probably Corsair H100i or H110, so that will be extra cost. Actually the only things I can carry over from my old PC are SSD and GPU.
Should I build on X79 platform or go for LGA1150 and Core i7 4770k? Or even wait for LGA2011-A? I am confused Gaf, help me built my dream machine
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jacksepticeye
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1080p and about 300-400 euro. maybe a little more but it's stretching it
WeaponKnight
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It's official, my HD6870 is dead. This time, I'm going to try to nVidia, because it seems to be easier to tweak and more reliable.
My current setup:
Phenom II X4 965 BE
2x 2GB 1600Mhz Gold TXC OCZ
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
PSU 500W Ice Age IA500HP80 3R SYSTEM
Case THERMALTAKE V3 Black Edition
I was thinking about getting a GTX 760, and I found some around R$1000 (those are brazilian prices, don't be scared):
R$ 1000 - GigaByte 9GV-N760OC-2GD REV2.0.
R$ 1200 - MSI N760 HAWK
R$ 1270 - MSI N760 TF 4GD5/OC
I need to consider two things. First, the priority is noise, then temperature, then performance. I'm fine with underclocking if I can get a quieter card. Second, this card will go to a new PC I'll assemble in a few months, so it's not exactly important to "fit in" perfectly in my setup.
Should I get one of those 3? I've heard good things about them. I don't mind having to buy another PSU because I'll have to later anyway.
My current setup:
Phenom II X4 965 BE
2x 2GB 1600Mhz Gold TXC OCZ
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
PSU 500W Ice Age IA500HP80 3R SYSTEM
Case THERMALTAKE V3 Black Edition
I was thinking about getting a GTX 760, and I found some around R$1000 (those are brazilian prices, don't be scared):
R$ 1000 - GigaByte 9GV-N760OC-2GD REV2.0.
R$ 1200 - MSI N760 HAWK
R$ 1270 - MSI N760 TF 4GD5/OC
I need to consider two things. First, the priority is noise, then temperature, then performance. I'm fine with underclocking if I can get a quieter card. Second, this card will go to a new PC I'll assemble in a few months, so it's not exactly important to "fit in" perfectly in my setup.
Should I get one of those 3? I've heard good things about them. I don't mind having to buy another PSU because I'll have to later anyway.
For that, you could get a 1440p IPS/PLS panel like the QNIX.
Or you could go less expensive and get something like the Eizo Foris FS2333, which is a 23" IPS panel at 1080p.
You can most likely RMA your 6870. NVIDIA/AMD are about equal when it comes to reliability. Not sure what you mean by tweaking though.
Can't go wrong between the three cards you have selected though.
batman2million
Member
I have a 750W right now. Just want to make sure it'll run my i7 920 and gtx 780 without any issues.
It's a phenomenally good unit. Costs a lot but if you can afford it it's worth it.
Yeah it's... really not wowed me like I thought. I knew what to expect on the GPU front but I had hoped better performance on the CPU side but since they've held back the clock speeds it negates the IPC boost that Steamroller brings.
Good catch.
If your 780 is still doing the business for you stick with it.
If it were me I'd just overclock your i7 and wait for 2011-A if you want to go big with a new machine.
WeaponKnight
Member
How does that work? I don't know if they'll offer support for an out of warranty product bought in Paraguay years ago. I don't think I have the receipt, even.
By tweaking I mean those inspectors or whatsitsname and configuration tools for games. Everytime I see a tutorial it's for nVidia cards. I never did much research, it just stands out.
Does MSI make much of a difference to justify the 20%+ price increase? I can pickup the Gigabyte one myself and not rely on shipping so I'm leaning towards it.
Derpcrawler
Member
I am playing at 1440p and sometimes I feel I could use 5-10 more FPS to make gaming more consistent on top of random dips in FPS in CPU intensive games.
When is 2011-A releasing? Wasn't that end of 2014? And CPUs will probably cost insane amounts 400-500USD for 6 core at least on top of DDR4, so that might be out of my budget even if I go for something like GTX870 or whatever there will be. How really useful 2011-A and 6-8 cores will be in gaming?
Is your i7 just running at stock speeds though? You could easily take that CPU from 2.8GHz to 3.8GHz for the sake of $25 or so and likely get the boost you need from it if you haven't already done so.
Yes 2011-A will be the second half of this year, probably September. A 6 core one of those you'd be talking $300 probably, but the cost of DDR4 I can't really guess at. Probably similar to DDR3 when it first launched. The usefulness of 6 cores is few and far between in most titles at present, hell even going for an i7 4770K is overkill since most games can't take advantage of all the threads it offers either.
Derpcrawler
Member
My Core i7 runs at 3.6Ghz, I can push it to 3.8 but I feel it's not very stable and pretty loud.
No worries. Not all chips can do it, 3.6 is still respectable. In that case if it's still holding you back a 4770K would be a nice upgrade. Talking... 25% clock for clock as well as clocking higher too.
Just pickup a Corsair that fits your budget then.
Don't forget he'll also be getting USB 3.0/Sata III, coming from someone who's also on X58, I await having faster USB with bated breath.
And he could move to a smaller build and not have a omnipresent space heater
I say go for the GPU if the aforementioned aren't a huge deal, if you can hang on until 2015 for CPU you'll be very very happy.
:/
Was hoping for a lot more tbh.
Even through they are just previews I want gaming + discrete graphics testing. At least you can OC the thing to what seems about 4.2Ghz for $153, hopefully the problem Anandtech had with the power delivery getting too hot isn't a problem, CPU wattage much lower.
ASRock mobo used in the Anand review:
I'm thinking the GB UP4 might do better.
Heatsink design definitely better. Don't know what the difference is on the actual MOSFETs though.
Worth delaying a 790 and G-Sync 1440p to test? mmmmmmmm...........................................
I'm thinking the GB UP4 might do better.
Heatsink design definitely better. Don't know what the difference is on the actual MOSFETs though.
Worth delaying a 790 and G-Sync 1440p to test? mmmmmmmm...........................................
That Wont Fit In There
Member
Hey everyone. I'm new to the PC stuff and need help building a PC that would be perfect for video editing, streaming in HD and playing games in at least 60fps 1080p. My budget is 1000-1200 USD.
Odd problem with some homeplugs I have. Overtime, the speed will slow down to about 1 MB/s (I have an Internet speed of ~8MB/s). If I then unplug the ethernet cable from the plug, then plug it straight back in, it will jump up to between 3~6 MB/s.
I put the slower speeds down to weird wiring, but why would it deteriorate over time? It's not even like I unplug the homeplug itself (it's a pass through one, with the extension with my PC plugged in to it).
I put the slower speeds down to weird wiring, but why would it deteriorate over time? It's not even like I unplug the homeplug itself (it's a pass through one, with the extension with my PC plugged in to it).
Read the OP. The $1000 build with an i7 is what you're looking for.
That Wont Fit In There
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How much do you like money? If they're close in price go for it, if it's 40-50 don't bother. (And you should be getting a 760 anyway, the 770 and the 760 are very close in performance, so it's up to you if 15-20% performance increase is worth an extra $100 to you)
Depends on what you do with your computer. You probably wouldn't see much of an improvement in games, but potentially an improvement in multitasking as you use Windows.
Prophet Steve
Member
Few games would benefit from it, since most don't even have 64 bit versions.
I think you can enable Skyrim to do so, and BF4 has one.
But there are few, you probably won't really notice a different with regards to gaming, it will make a difference if you run a lot of programs though.
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