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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!

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Dries

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My 3570K running at 4.1 mhz for the past year on my Sabertooth mobo with a Corsair 860 just failed to post with a warning that my system OC was too much. I've never had one problem in over a year and this happens.

The only change I made to my PC was to move it slightly while it was turned off. I just checked all of the connections and dusted it out. I'm now running it on stock and will run Prime for the next 24 hours to test it out.

What could have caused this? Could a torrented video cause this? My volts were at stock FYI too and I have a corsair 212 and 780GTX TI in SLI. Please advise.

I also sometimes get this message. My stability is fine though in day to day use. I'm assuming it's just is a bug on my mobo. Does your PC eventually boot though? And does this happen every single time?

PS. hope you're running 4.1 Ghz though ;)
 

Pachimari

Member
IMO remote is the best way. I use Logitech harmony for my living room equipment and it's very convenient. Also means the whole family can use it without complications.

The IR range works just as your other appliances such as TV, Blu Ray player work. It usually needs line of sight although it reflects too. You may find some IR Receivers work better than others, that's where CIR comes into it's own since it works like a real appliance in terms of range.

I found out that the motherboard in my computer is a Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H.

It doesn't seem like it have a CIR port but I'm no techy, so I'm not sure.

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bro1

Banned
My 3570K running at 4.1 mhz for the past year on my Sabertooth mobo with a Corsair 860 just failed to post with a warning that my system OC was too much. I've never had one problem in over a year and this happens.

The only change I made to my PC was to move it slightly while it was turned off. I just checked all of the connections and dusted it out. I'm now running it on stock and will run Prime for the next 24 hours to test it out.

What could have caused this? Could a torrented video cause this? My volts were at stock FYI too and I have a corsair 212 and 780GTX TI in SLI. Please advise.

I also sometimes get this message. My stability is fine though in day to day use. I'm assuming it's just is a bug on my mobo. Does your PC eventually boot though? And does this happen every single time?

PS. hope you're running 4.1 Ghz though ;)

It was a bad stick of corsair vengeance ram. Off to Frys or micro center tomorrow to buy a new stick.
 
Link to the imgur album I just created. The actual rig is nothing to look at it being that the case is a generic 200r but it games.
Here is the pcpartpicker list for my setup along with the inaccurate prices from the site. I also have a Msi R9 280x and XFX 550w psu that I purchased brand new that I am not using so that was kind of a waste of money.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.89 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($118.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($94.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($116.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Hitachi Travelstar 5K1000 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan 6GB Video Card ($0.00)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($55.35 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($159.00 @ Canada Computers)
Keyboard: Rosewill RK-8100 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($55.75 @ Amazon Canada)
Mouse: Cooler Master CM Storm Xornet Wired Optical Mouse ($19.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1090.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-12 00:27 EDT-0400
I was half joking, but nice. Did you buy the 280X back when the price was being artificially inflated by retailers?
 

LilJoka

Member
I found out that the motherboard in my computer is a Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H.

It doesn't seem like it have a CIR port but I'm no techy, so I'm not sure.

http://i.imgur.com/uaeR1PP.jpg[/MG][/QUOTE]

Yeah doesnt have CIR so will have to be USB IR Receiver and RC6 Media remote.
 

garath

Member
Ok guys, I don't know where else to ask this and I'm pulling my hair out so here goes:

Situition: I'm trying to get my Vita to play nice with my PS4 on my network for remote play. I have a small place and I'm in a very remote area so interference is probably not an issue.

Things I have tried:

-settings a static IP for both PS4 and Vita
-port forwarding the necessary ports for both
-direct connect between Vita/PS4 and internet connect

It's shit connection even when I'm 4 feet away between the devices and I can't figure out why. i started tooling around with more network settings to see if there was something I could clean up and I suddenly realized I know far less about networking than I ever thought so now I have some questions. First, I just realized that BOTH my modem and my router were broadcasting wireless signals but I can't figure out how to shut off wireless on the modem if that's even possible. I also realized that i don't know whether i should be port forwarding on the modem or on the router. On the router the settings for port forwarding seem to be greyed out and I've been doing it on the modem itself all the time.


For reference, I have a wireless Netgear MODEM (DGND 3300) and a Netgear Router (WNDR 4400v2).

I have some basic "I'm dumber than I thought about networking" questions that I'd appreciate any answers to that could help me out:

1. It seems that my model currently occupies both 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.1.1 on my network. Is this normal? Maybe this became a thing in recent years but it seems weird to me.

2. My router meanwhile is apparently 192.168.0.2. Is this how I should have it set up?

3. Which device should be handling my port forwarding? If the modem, does it matter whether I forward to 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 since both seem valid? Should I be setting the Primary DNS to my router address instead of the modem?

4. There doesn't seem to be a way to turn off the wireless signal from the modem's internal wireless in the settings as far as I can tell. Am I missing something?

5. I'm assuming I actually WANT to use the router's wireless because I believe it's a newer/better model but I could be mistaken.

6. Would I be better off just getting some new hardware altogether? Is there some good all-in-one solution perhaps? Are my router and modem potentially the problem? I don't think they are that old tech wise but I could be wrong.

My best guess would be both the modem and wireless router are on the same channel and since they are sitting on top of one another, it's causing a lot of interference.

Do you need the router? If the modem has a built in wireless router then you can just use that?

There should be a way to turn off the wireless router in the modem if that's the route you want to go. I'd look at doing that. At the very least you're going to need to change the channel on one or the other device.

As far as which device to forward the ports, which one are you connecting to? Each should have it's own SSID (basically a name) that you are connecting to. The device that you are connecting to is the one that needs to forward the ports.

If it were me, I would find a way to disable the wireless router on the modem and use the stand alone router as your device. From there, make sure it's on a non-congested wireless channel and forward the correct ports on the stand alone router.

Alternatively you can do the exact same thing the other way. Drop the stand alone router and just use the wireless router on the modem.

What is a decent mechanical KB with reds that includes n-key rollover?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=458496

There's a lot of great options out there. This thread might be a help.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
not sure if this is the right place to ask, but any recommendations for budget >24" monitors? Have a basic AOC 23" at the moment which is fine (2xHDMI + VGA which is what I need), but curious about something bigger (possibly keeping the 23" as a second monitor)

ebuyer has the Acer K272HLbid for £130 which seems a good price - has HDMI, DVI (HDCP compatible) and VGA so connectivity is ok.
 

Mr Cola

Brothas With Attitude / The Wrong Brotha to Fuck Wit / Die Brotha Die / Brothas in Paris
The PC I built with the help of GAF (Specifically Kharma45)

Im not good at pics, but here we go

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kharma45

Member
Maybe it's my internet here at work. When I quote you I can see the URL and open it that way.

We need to talk about cable management... :p
 

Mr Cola

Brothas With Attitude / The Wrong Brotha to Fuck Wit / Die Brotha Die / Brothas in Paris
Maybe it's my internet here at work. When I quote you I can see the URL and open it that way.

We need to talk about cable management... :p

Seriously everything was fine until the psu, I had zipties and it was neat and tidy and then the psu gets put in and i cry.

Im ok

Everything works!
 

ricki42

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Maybe it's my internet here at work. When I quote you I can see the URL and open it that way.

Same for me.

Seriously everything was fine until the psu, I had zipties and it was neat and tidy and then the psu gets put in and i cry.

I hear you... I thought the hardest part is done, all that's left is just hooking up a few cables. Man was I wrong. :(
I'm still planning to re-do mine, but I'm just so glad it works, I don't want to mess with it.
 

Mr Cola

Brothas With Attitude / The Wrong Brotha to Fuck Wit / Die Brotha Die / Brothas in Paris
Do we dare talk about overclocking :3

Never done it before, not sure I need to given I have such limited uses for extra power
 

kiyomi

Member
The PC I built with the help of GAF (Specifically Kharma45)

Im not good at pics, but here we go

image.jpg

Oh, you must be on the new mini-mini-mini-mini-mini ITX platform because your computer is so tiny I can't see it in that picture you posted.

jk, looks a little messy but you should be proud!
 

Mr Cola

Brothas With Attitude / The Wrong Brotha to Fuck Wit / Die Brotha Die / Brothas in Paris
Oh, you must be on the new mini-mini-mini-mini-mini ITX platform because your computer is so tiny I can't see it in that picture you posted.

jk, looks a little messy but you should be proud!

Sorry I used my IPAD, not good with these things

Yeah Kharma did a great job!
 

Mr Cola

Brothas With Attitude / The Wrong Brotha to Fuck Wit / Die Brotha Die / Brothas in Paris
Looks to me like the memory sticks are not in the correct slots. Check the manual for your motherboard.

On the panels I put them in slots 1 and 2

Does it matter? Computer tells me its installed.
 

Mr Cola

Brothas With Attitude / The Wrong Brotha to Fuck Wit / Die Brotha Die / Brothas in Paris
So I just move one to slot 3 and itll be fine? (The other is already in slot 1)
 
Guys, gamingwise, should i install Windows 8.1 in my main build (all games) and windows 7 in my alt build (just World of Warcraft)? Does it change something?
 

Pachimari

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Besides that, is there a headset that is as good or close to being as good as the Sennheiser 363D and is also cheaper?

I need it for playing games and want surround detail in my atmospheric games and also for a little bit of voice chat.
 

Sykotik

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Guys, gamingwise, should i install Windows 8.1 in my main build (all games) and windows 7 in my alt build (just World of Warcraft)? Does it change something?

I use 8.1, and I feel like I've had less trouble on it than I did when using Windows 7. 8.1 certainly hasn't made things worse.
 

mkenyon

Banned
Besides that, is there a headset that is as good or close to being as good as the Sennheiser 363D and is also cheaper?

I need it for playing games and want surround detail in my atmospheric games and also for a little bit of voice chat.
Yep, G4me Zero. The G4me Ones are open like the 363Ds, Zeros are closed.
Guys, gamingwise, should i install Windows 8.1 in my main build (all games) and windows 7 in my alt build (just World of Warcraft)? Does it change something?
Whatever you want. Doesn't really matter either way.
 
I use 8.1, and I feel like I've had less trouble on it than I did when using Windows 7. 8.1 certainly hasn't made things worse.

Whatever you want. Doesn't really matter either way.

Thanks guys :3. Another question. When i install the OS and i manage drives and partitions, i always think i'm messing up something. Last time i was managing partitions on a single 1TB hard disk. I created a 100gb partition for OS+programs but also popped an unallocated roughly 300/400Mb space undeleteable. So i had 3 partitions: [1TB-100gb-300mb] + [100GB] + [300mb]. Hope i recall correctly the numbers etc. I think it is kind of weird, don't you?
 

LilJoka

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Just looked up what delid is and... hell no I am not doing that. Not with my shaky hands.

Hammer and Vice method is better. I highly advise not using the blade as it is way to easy to nick the PCB and render it useless.
This method shows how resilient CPUs are, they dont just break.
 

garath

Member
What does it mean being closed or open? Is it the headphones on the headset that can be replaced if it's open?

Closed or open is when you are talking about the ear cups.

Open have like a screen door on the cups that let air in and out. Open headphones are usually categorized as having better soundstage which means sounds can have a little more distance and clarity to your ears. They generally have better sound fidelity as well. However, they leak meaning you can hear outside sounds and the sounds from your headphones can be heard outside of the headphones. And generally they have worse bass.

An example of an open pair:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B3QD94O/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Note the grating on the ear cups

Closed are designed to create a seal around your ears and not let the air in and out like open. Generally they have better bass and very good sound isolation. Most often they have worse sound fidelity but everything I've said so far is speaking in generalizations. Different headphones will have different strengths and weaknesses despite being open or closed. For example the X1s I linked above are a little bassier than more open headphones.

Here's an example of a closed pair:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AZZNXOK/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Note the hard plastic shell for the cups. They're designed to prevent sound leakage.
 

Pachimari

Member
Hmmm, now I'm not sure which headphones to get anymore then heh.

It's said the Sennheiser D363 is a very good pair, but I'm not sure I would like outside noise to be heard. I also love bass in my games.

I will be living in a small 46m2 apartment this coming month, so if the HDTV and surround speakers are going, I'll probably hear that when I game PC.
 

mkenyon

Banned
Hmmm, now I'm not sure which headphones to get anymore then heh.

It's said the Sennheiser D363 is a very good pair, but I'm not sure I would like outside noise to be heard. I also love bass in my games.

I will be living in a small 46m2 apartment this coming month, so if the HDTV and surround speakers are going, I'll probably hear that when I game PC.
Yeah, check out the G4me Zeros then.
 

LilJoka

Member
That's even more expensive.

I might have to go with the D363 then.

Here, the Sennheiser 363D is £180 and if I want to import the g4me zero it'll be more than £210.


Isn't it possible to use the Apple remote?

You can but its not a great way to do it since all keys are translated by software like EventGhost. And this isnt 100% reliable setup imo. Also not sure about wake from sleep here.
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=73947

I rather use a Microsoft IR Receiver with RC6 remote as it is plug & play, no config whatsoever.
 

Pachimari

Member
You can but its not a great way to do it since all keys are translated by software like EventGhost. And this isnt 100% reliable setup imo. Also not sure about wake from sleep here.
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=73947

I rather use a Microsoft IR Receiver with RC6 remote as it is plug & play, no config whatsoever.

Should I get something like this?

It doesn't need to be able to wake my computer or put it to sleep. I just need it to navigate my movie library in Plex. :)
 

Woffls

Member
Oh my days, what a carry on. Last weekend I ordered some X99 components ready to get here by this weekend/Monday, but having found out about the memory shortage I just cancelled all of it.

Now I've got an email from Amazon saying that the memory will be with me on Monday, but I've got no other components, and the prices have since gone up as well!

... okay it's been much more stressful than I made it sound. Anyway, I was hoping to be rid of all this lark for a few weeks, and I'm pretty bored of it now so I think I'll just buy what I want for whatever cost and not faff about looking to save a fiver on a £300 CPU :\
 

suffah

Does maths and stuff
So I've culled a bunch of parts from various lab boxes and only need the mobo and video card. How does this look?

HAVE

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($126.45 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($39.94 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)

NEED

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($132.99 @ Mwave)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Dual Classified ACX Video Card ($386.40 @ Newegg)

I'm thinking of picking up the motherboard now since there is a $20 rebate and picking up a video card in a month or so when we see how prices look.

Is my CPU adequate for gaming?
 

mkenyon

Banned
That's a 100% high end build. Will destroy games at 1080p.

However, NVIDIA is launching new cards possibly as soon as next Thursday/Friday. Might want to hold off.
 
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