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[THE:MILKMAN]

After a very stressful week (brother snapped his tibia and fibula) I finally got time to complete my parents new budget build:

Very impressed with this £300 build. The case and SSD are great and the system is almost silent and is very fast and responsive.

I have now ordered a Fractal Design ARC Mini R2 for myself and will probably grab a SSD sooner rather than later.

 

[Pachimari]

Yeah that will work, decent remote, got one myself.

I have now ordered it.

 

[gilljoy]

Have WD blues stopped being sold in the UK? Looking to upgrade my samsung spinpoint F3 to WD Red / Blue at around 2/3 tb and I can't seem to find the blue anywhere.

 

[H1PSTER]

Need to upgrade my SLI 580s soon.

 

[mkenyon]

Wait for the 900 series release later next week.

Sell em on GAF, ebay, Craigslist.

 

[LilJoka]

Have WD blues stopped being sold in the UK? Looking to upgrade my samsung spinpoint F3 to WD Red / Blue at around 2/3 tb and I can't seem to find the blue anywhere.

Try the Hitachi 3Tb 7200rpm drives.

 

[McBryBry]

So due to a change in future plans, I'm no longer building a computer to assist in audio production work, so it's going to be primarily a gaming machine. So do I really need a 4790k anymore? Going down to the 4690k would definitely save some cash.

 

[mkenyon]

No, you don't really need it. There's still almost zero appreciable difference in the two processors outside of a very few select games, given the same frequency.

 

[Cels]

Newegg has the EVGA SuperNova 750W 80+ Gold Modular PSU for $60 after $30 mail-in rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...GA_SuperNOVA_NEX_750_G-_-17-438-027-_-Product

 

[Tablo]

Yep, G4me Zero. The G4me Ones are open like the 363Ds, Zeros are closed.

I can vouch for G4ME ZEROs, best headset I have ever owned, so good. Sooooo gooood. Comfy, sounds amazing, good mic.

 

[Ravijn]

Newegg has the EVGA SuperNova 750W 80+ Gold Modular PSU for $60 after $30 mail-in rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...GA_SuperNOVA_NEX_750_G-_-17-438-027-_-Product

Thanks for the heads up! Got one ordered.

I was eventually going to need a new PSU and this is perfect for the price.

 

[xBladeM6x]

When it comes to external game capture cards, which would you consider to be the best / very good? I keep hearing about this one.

 

[Ravijn]

When it comes to external game capture cards, which would you consider to be the best / very good? I keep hearing about this one.

I think you have to use it in conjunction with a HDMI switch to record PS4/Xbox One games because of HDCP?

Maybe someone else can chime in on this.

 

[appaws]

Just thought I would stop in and recommend a cool video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cb0j4AO1aE&list=UUVDejJ5_cx3JkYcrbV9Lk4A

"Ronsanut" is a builder of really sweet systems who puts up videos of his builds. Very high end water cooling, no expense spared.

He is starting a new build in a Caselabs STH10, this is the first video in the series where he runs through all the components he is going to use.

 

[luxarific]

Bleagh, just pulled the trigger on everything. Hope I don't get any lemons. I'm reusing several components until prices drop/new GPUs are released.

CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K
Motherboard: Asus X99 Deluxe
Heatsink: Noctua NH-U12 S and another NF-F12
RAM: Crucial 16GB Single DDR4 2133 (2x8GB) (yeah there really is a RAM shortage unless you want to wait a few weeks or pay an arm and a leg)
Case: Lian-Li PC-A61B

Reusing
HD: Samsung Evo Pro 840, 1 TB
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 680, 02G-P4-2680-KR
DVD burner, card reader, hotswap bay

 

[systematic]

Have WD blues stopped being sold in the UK? Looking to upgrade my samsung spinpoint F3 to WD Red / Blue at around 2/3 tb and I can't seem to find the blue anywhere.

WD has never manufactured blue drives larger than 1TB - they don't see a market for mid-range high capacity drives.

 

[zeroeffect]

Anyone in here try the Corsair HXi series PSU yet?

 

[zeroeffect]

Newegg has the EVGA SuperNova 750W 80+ Gold Modular PSU for $60 after $30 mail-in rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...GA_SuperNOVA_NEX_750_G-_-17-438-027-_-Product

Damn that's a good deal. I want to try an EVGA PSU since I like their other products so much but I don't know much about their reliability there. I usually go with Corsair because they never fail me although it seems Corsair doesn't have the rep they use to on PSUs.

 

[UnObtainium17]

Just bought a refurb H100i from newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181061

Newegg has the EVGA SuperNova 750W 80+ Gold Modular PSU for $60 after $30 mail-in rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...GA_SuperNOVA_NEX_750_G-_-17-438-027-_-Product

tempting.. but I dont want to deal with rebates hmmm.

 

[Cels]

Damn that's a good deal. I want to try an EVGA PSU since I like their other products so much but I don't know much about their reliability there. I usually go with Corsair because they never fail me although it seems Corsair doesn't have the rep they use to on PSUs.

the thing about PSUs is the branding is sometimes just that, branding. the actual manufacturer of the PSU is often someone else.

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page541.htm

this one (120-G1-0750-XR) looks like it is made by FSP.

 

[Crisium]

So I've culled a bunch of parts from various lab boxes and only need the mobo and video card. How does this look?

HAVE

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($126.45 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($39.94 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)

NEED

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($132.99 @ Mwave)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Dual Classified ACX Video Card ($386.40 @ Newegg)

I'm thinking of picking up the motherboard now since there is a $20 rebate and picking up a video card in a month or so when we see how prices look.

Is my CPU adequate for gaming?

That's a peculiar choice for a Video Card, I have to ask why? A Radeon 290 offers outright superior performance for barely more money than the card you choose. And if you are value oriented, a Radeon 280x is basically 770 4GB performance (perhaps on average 2-5% slower), but for tremendously less money ($100 cheaper is no joke). I don't understand your desire, unless you have a G Sync monitor or are firmly committed to buying one within the next year. You are paying a premium to get a 4GB over a 2GB 770, and that premium does not translate into cost effectiveness. And you clearly recognize the problems with buying a 2GB video card in this day and age, so I shouldn't have to explain why the 770 2GB is also unwise.

 

[Barajas_201]

MSI R9 280 vs MSI R9 280x?

 

[Durante]

That's a peculiar choice for a Video Card, I have to ask why? A Radeon 290 offers outright superior performance for barely more money than the card you choose. And if you are value oriented, a Radeon 280x is basically 770 4GB performance (perhaps on average 2-5% slower), but for tremendously less money ($100 cheaper is no joke). I don't understand your desire, unless you have a G Sync monitor or are firmly committed to buying one within the next year. You are paying a premium to get a 4GB over a 2GB 770, and that premium does not translate into cost effectiveness. And you clearly recognize the problems with buying a 2GB video card in this day and age, so I shouldn't have to explain why the 770 2GB is also unwise.

Some people prefer the Nvidia ecosystem. I'm one of them (currently using a 4 GB 770).

An AMD card doesn't have more "value" for me, even if it's cheaper for the same average FPS.

 

[Crisium]

Then I'd suggest he wait for the GTX 970 and see what that does to prices. I understand Nvidia desire for G Sync (or SSAA maybe), but otherwise sometimes users here come across as either irrational Nvidia zealots, or possessing irrational AMD driver phobia.

If you are willing to pay $100 more for the same performance, value already has little meaning to you, so he might as well get the 780 Ti or 980 then? Either you understand value or you do not. Physx has no relevancy in games anymore.

I'm using a Nvidia card now, I swear. But sometimes I scratch my head.

 

[Tommy DJ]

That's a peculiar choice for a Video Card, I have to ask why? A Radeon 290 offers outright superior performance for barely more money than the card you choose. And if you are value oriented, a Radeon 280x is basically 770 4GB performance (perhaps on average 2-5% slower), but for tremendously less money ($100 cheaper is no joke). I don't understand your desire, unless you have a G Sync monitor or are firmly committed to buying one within the next year. You are paying a premium to get a 4GB over a 2GB 770, and that premium does not translate into cost effectiveness. And you clearly recognize the problems with buying a 2GB video card in this day and age, so I shouldn't have to explain why the 770 2GB is also unwise.

I agree that the GTX770 is a poorly positioned card but there are reasons why people may still prefer NVIDIA. NVIDIA is likely going to launch new cards so he might as well wait and see what happens to the market.

That being said, I'm generally willing to pay a $100 premium for high end NVIDIA cards simply because NVIDIA drivers seem to play better with legacy software and games: AMD cards basically cannot run Crimson Skies. Their single monitor feature set also seem more comprehensive than AMD drivers in general. Or at least I don't have to resort to Radeon Pro to enable system wide vsync options or to make sure Powertune (?) isn't causing the GPU to run at 2D clocks or something stupid.

Plus EVGA is a baller company when it comes to warranty.

Edit: I've lived with the R9 290 when I swapped my GTX780 for my brother's R9 290 in an effort to isolate a PSU problem. In my Silverstone FT02, the R9 290 ran way hotter and louder than my GTX780 during gaming loads. In fact, I could pretty much run the ACX cooler on my GTX780 at 30% fan speed most of the time. AMD cards are worth considering if you are specifically looking for price/performance but I'm convinced that they're no where near as polished as NVIDIA's offerings after using both for at least a month.

 

[brain_stew]

Then I'd suggest he wait for the GTX 970 and see what that does to prices. I understand Nvidia desire for G Sync (or SSAA maybe), but otherwise sometimes users here come across as either irrational Nvidia zealots, or possessing irrational AMD driver phobia.

If you are willing to pay $100 more for the same performance, value already has little meaning to you, so he might as well get the 780 Ti or 980 then? Either you understand value or you do not. Physx has no relevancy in games anymore.

I'm using a Nvidia card now, I swear. But sometimes I scratch my head.

AMD's ecosystem and drivers are fundamentally worse and always have been. Their cards are also far less power efficient. These aren't myths, they're the reality of the situation and it's only right to make people aware that there are trade offs to buying that cheaper Radeon card.

The upcoming GTX 970 is the right choice at the $400 mark.

 

[gilljoy]

WD has never manufactured blue drives larger than 1TB - they don't see a market for mid-range high capacity drives.

Ahh cool what would you recommend instead?

 

[kharma45]

AMD's ecosystem and drivers are fundamentally worse and always have been. Their cards are also far less power efficient. These aren't myths, they're the reality of the situation and it's only right to make people aware that there are trade offs to buying that cheaper Radeon card.

The upcoming GTX 970 is the right choice at the $400 mark.

Their drivers are perfectly fine now from a stability viewpoint and have been for a long time.

 

[Pachimari]

I'm only curious, but if I buy one more GTX 780 and do a SLI setup, will I be able to have more than 4 connected displays?

 

[The Llama]

I had been afraid to check ever since I bought the monitor like 2 months ago but I finally did, and I'm pretty sure my BenQ XL2411Z is the first LCD monitor I've ever bought that doesn't have any dead or stuck pixels. So that's cool.

 

[Ravijn]

the thing about PSUs is the branding is sometimes just that, branding. the actual manufacturer of the PSU is often someone else.

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page541.htm

this one (120-G1-0750-XR) looks like it is made by FSP.

Is FSP a good or bad company for a PSU?

 

[kharma45]

Is FSP a good or bad company for a PSU?

They're ok.

 

[xBladeM6x]

I'm only curious, but if I buy one more GTX 780 and do a SLI setup, will I be able to have more than 4 connected displays?

I would image you could have 8 with no problems.

 

[Smushroomed]

Any problem with buying a second ssd and using it as a second drive?

 

[Ravijn]

Any problem with buying a second ssd and using it as a second drive?

Go ahead. I have 3 SSD drives.

The only problem I personally have right now is that the only SATA port I had left for the 3rd Intel SSD drive was an ASMEDIA SATA port and not an Intel. The drive works perfect but the Intel SSD Toolbox software gives me an error.

 

[Smushroomed]

Some people prefer the Nvidia ecosystem. I'm one of them (currently using a 4 GB 770).

An AMD card doesn't have more "value" for me, even if it's cheaper for the same average FPS.

How did watch dogs run for you on 4gb?

 

[longdi]

Any problem with buying a second ssd and using it as a second drive?

i use a second ssd for origins and steam. loads games like a boss. the only problem is your wallet.

 

[xBladeM6x]

What would be considered a high quality MicroATX PSU? I'm looking at making a good / efficient build for standard office use. (Not for me)

 

[LilJoka]

What would be considered a high quality MicroATX PSU? I'm looking at making a good / efficient build for standard office use. (Not for me)

If it's a mATX case a standard ATX PSU is all you need. There is no such thing as an mATX PSU.
Some cases like EVGA Hadron or RVZ01 need a SFX PSU.

 

[xBladeM6x]

There is no such thing as an mATX PSU.

For some reason, I really thought there was.

Spoiler

I'm a fucking idiot. Lol

 

[LilJoka]

Yeah it can be confusing since you buy an mATX case, mATX board then an ATX PSU.
Retailers also confuse the situation by calling SFX PSUs mATX PSUs at times.

 

[Ravijn]

They're ok.

Should I return it or keep it?

 

[kennah]

If it's a mATX case a standard ATX PSU is all you need. There is no such thing as an mATX PSU.
Some cases like EVGA Hadron or RVZ01 need a SFX PSU.

The hadron doesn't use an sfx psu. It's closer to the ones used in rack mount servers.

 

[kvk1]

Man, the NVIDIA reveal cannot come any sooner.

I've been waiting to do a big upgrade for a few months waiting on these GPUs.

This thread is killing me with envy.

 

[Pachimari]

I would image you could have 8 with no problems.

What if I already have one GTX 780 and a motherboard. Won't I be able to have more than 4 monitors connected?

4 to the video card and others on the motherboard.

 

[LilJoka]

What if I already have one GTX 780 and a motherboard. Won't I be able to have more than 4 monitors connected?

4 to the video card and others on the motherboard.

Motherboard GPU connections and the internal GPU is disabled when a PCIE GPU is detected. So that won't work.

 

[Felix Lighter]

Some talk in the 970/980 thread has pushed me away from a multi-gpu setup, which I guess would save me quite a bit of money but I'm not sure if 2560x1440 @120/144hz is pushing any single card too far when it comes to more demanding games.

 

[michaelius]

Some talk in the 970/980 thread has pushed me away from a multi-gpu setup, which I guess would save me quite a bit of money but I'm not sure if 2560x1440 @120/144hz is pushing any single card too far when it comes to more demanding games.

You will strugle to even reach stable 60 fps in some games at 1440p.

even without big AA it's nowhere close to stable 120

 

[zeroeffect]

Man, the NVIDIA reveal cannot come any sooner.

I've been waiting to do a big upgrade for a few months waiting on these GPUs.

This thread is killing me with envy.

Same here. It probably won't have the specs I was hoping but it will still be a huge upgrade in performance for me. My current GPU is a 570 and it's really becoming dated for gaming.

 

[tarheel91]

It's begun...