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"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($191.91 @ Jet)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.83 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($249.99 @ Jet)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Gold 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Logitech K400 Plus Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad ($27.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $835.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-10 01:54 EST-0500
I would get something like this
1. Skylake CPU/motherboard/DDR4 ram
2. 1060 over a RX470 for about the same price.
3. Added an SSD. Only 1TB hard disk, might be a bit small, but you can add more later.
4. Whatever case you want. Just pick something cheap and simple if you're on a budget. Picking the smallest mini m-ITX PC case may reduce compatible parts like graphics cards or power supplies and also make it hard to build. Up to you though.
5. You could also go an i3 CPU if you want to reduce your budget more. If you like typical multi platform games an i3 is generally fairly sufficient because the PS4 and Xbox One have crappy CPUs right now. Other PC only games might be a bit more CPU intensive. Again depends on what you want to play.
6. As for 4k gaming, not unless you turn some graphics settings down on a GTX 1060. But it'll run 1080p great.
7. I'd also leave the Wifi off the motherboard. Just grab a $5-10 USB wifi stick with antenna.
8. Oops - replace the microATX motherboard with a miniITX motherboard and case
but you get the idea... I think you can squeeze more out of the $800 you have there.
We already captured a log from msi ab.
Have we checked event viewer appliction logs?
What is the cpu frequency doing when the problem occurs?
openrob
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Hey guys, I wan to build a basic PC for my Mum for Xmas as her laptop kicked the bucket recently.
Parts I have:
PSU
4GB RAM
HDD
DVD Drive
I need a CPU/MoBo (and obviously a case), but not sure what to go for. No GPU will be used.
The computer will be the basic internet, watching On Demand stuff, etc. I am so used to gaming setups so not sure what to do with building an underpowered PC lol.
Do I go for an AMD APU, Intel - I don't know!
Parts I have:
PSU
4GB RAM
HDD
DVD Drive
I need a CPU/MoBo (and obviously a case), but not sure what to go for. No GPU will be used.
The computer will be the basic internet, watching On Demand stuff, etc. I am so used to gaming setups so not sure what to do with building an underpowered PC lol.
Do I go for an AMD APU, Intel - I don't know!
My budget is $900 or at least less that $900.
I will be playing The Witcher 3, Mad Max, Halo 5 Forge, Shadow of Mordor and Spec Ops: The Line in 4K. I also plan to get Gears 4, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Fallout 4 and Skyrim on my birthday.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($191.91 @ Jet)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.83 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($249.99 @ Jet)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Gold 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Logitech K400 Plus Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad ($27.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $835.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-10 01:54 EST-0500
I would get something like this
1. Skylake CPU/motherboard/DDR4 ram
2. 1060 over a RX470 for about the same price.
3. Added an SSD. Only 1TB hard disk, might be a bit small, but you can add more later.
4. Whatever case you want. Just pick something cheap and simple if you're on a budget. Picking the smallest mini m-ITX PC case may reduce compatible parts like graphics cards or power supplies and also make it hard to build. Up to you though.
5. You could also go an i3 CPU if you want to reduce your budget more. If you like typical multi platform games an i3 is generally fairly sufficient because the PS4 and Xbox One have crappy CPUs right now. Other PC only games might be a bit more CPU intensive. Again depends on what you want to play.
6. As for 4k gaming, not unless you turn some graphics settings down on a GTX 1060. But it'll run 1080p great.
7. I'd also leave the Wifi off the motherboard. Just grab a $5-10 USB wifi stick with antenna.
8. Oops - replace the microATX motherboard with a miniITX motherboard and case
Wow, those suggestions look interesting. Nice advice on the mini-itx cases and motherboards.
Celcius
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Based on the 250gb size I'm assuming it's a Samsung 850 Evo? What motherboard are you using and have you installed the latest motherboard chipset drivers? Have you installed the Intel Rapid Storage Technology drivers that came with your motherboard? Based on your screenshot I'm assuming your running Windows 10 right?
there's a logging feature on it, just paste the CSV file it spits out here and I'll see if anything is out of the ordinary. Although, the program I linked to has a section in the sensor menu about anything that would limit performance whatsoever. If anything in there ever goes to yes, then it could be a CPU issue
cebri.one
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1) 850 EVO
2) Z170XP-SLI from Gygabyte, i believe i have all the latest drivers.
3) I have just download them and installed them,but no change
4) W10 yes
I did some improvments to his part list, including a case that will actually fit long GPUs. Also, now you have enough money to either save for a video game or replace intel's awful stock cooler. Don't forget the sata cables, you might longer cords to connect the drives to the motherboard than those included.
Celcius
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In the intel rapid storage technology app did you see an option related to sata power savings or something like that? Otherwise do you see anything in Samsung Magician related to power savings?
I have a quick question. So I bought a mushkin sata 3 ssd. What sata port do I plug that into on the motherboard? I have a little box that says sata express on top of it that has 4 or 5 ports and then next to it is smaller box with only two sata ports. I also have a 2tb HDD that I want to plug in, should I wait until after I boot windows up or can I plug it now? I want to make sure I install windows on the correct drive.
Shadowheart
Member
CPU is stock with a stock fan, no-overclocking. Everything is dusted and clean. I used to have temps. in the high 70's. After sudden shutdowns started happening (after I tried running new games like Doom and Alien Isolation (Civ 6 and Anno 2205 are fine) I removed the stock fan for an extra clean only to find out no thermal paste is sold in my entire city... I left the paste residue as is (I didn't scrape it off) but of course now it is worse with temps nearly reaching 100 (PC shuts down before triple digits register.
No biggie. I am HOPING it is just the CPU and when I buy a new 7th gen intel next month (along with forced new mobo and RAM) everything should be okay and I'll be set for another 6 years or so.
I am just disappointed there aren't any mainstream 6 cores or higher since quad cores first appears many moons ago. Zen will have 8 and by the time I upgrade next (mid cycle into a Playstation 5) I am expecting to have more than damn 4 cores as mainstream.
Is that 850 connected to a 6.0 data port/cable? Also, I think those fast write speeds need some feature enabled to get them, from what I read on the promo page
Sata express ones, as such ports are 6.0 Gbps ones. And yeah, wait to put in the other drive until windows is installed, makes things easier
cebri.one
Member
In IRT is deactivated. In SM can't find any option.
Google your motherboard and check which SATA 3 ports are Intel (as opposed to say, Asmedia etc.) Use that port. The 2TB HDD can probably be plugged into a SATA 2 port if you're out of the 3's, and it should be fine to add after you've installed Windows. You'll just have to go into Disk Management and manually format the drive. (Google that too, I did it recently with a secondary SSD, no issues)
The one in the build sheet is a pci-e one, but for good USB antennas I dunno.
Oh, okay then. Thank you so much for the advice!
This should be the final list for now.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($191.91 @ Jet)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.83 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($249.99 @ Jet)
Case: Silverstone GD09B HTPC Case ($72.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($56.97 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill N900PCE PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($30.88 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech K400 Plus Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad ($28.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $879.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-10 11:35 EST-0500
Oh, okay then. Thank you so much for the advice!
Snkfanatic
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Considering buying the ASUS VG248QE today. Is there a better option for the money now? I know the monitor has been on the market for a while. Don't really want to go above $300 if possible. Just wanted to check before I pull the trigger.
The MG248Q is the updated VG248QE and has freesync support, but I've been told the the ViewSonic XG2401 is one of the the best 144hz monitor to get under $300 (not counting refurb sales) due to color reproduction.
What graphics card do you have?
Snkfanatic
Banned
1060 with 6GBvram
I wouldn't mind trying G Sync or BenQ panels in general. I just read some people have nausea issues with the Asus, something about the screen flickering slightly. I wouldn't be completely opposed if I have to push the budget to 350
tea_and_crumpets
Member
Which GTX 1070 should I opt for?
Is there much difference based on the various brands or should I just get the cheapest one (seems to be the Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming)?
I've heard various people see the Palit models are the best, with good performance and cooling, but is there much difference between the pre-overclocked cards?
Is there much difference based on the various brands or should I just get the cheapest one (seems to be the Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming)?
I've heard various people see the Palit models are the best, with good performance and cooling, but is there much difference between the pre-overclocked cards?
VeteranGamer
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Looking for adivce with a router and wireless nic solutions. My son and daughter are roughly 50 feet from my router. They are on the first floor of the house and I am on the 2nd, opposite side of the house. Their wireless download speed is "ok" but sometimes their online gaming experience has them lagging.
I have a Netgear WND4500 router and they have usb wireless solutions which had on the box "best for gaming".
Is the router I have good enough? Any suggestions on a good router/ wireless nics for them?
I have a Netgear WND4500 router and they have usb wireless solutions which had on the box "best for gaming".
Is the router I have good enough? Any suggestions on a good router/ wireless nics for them?
Bloodember
Member
Did you uninstall the drivers from the Nvidia card? Did you use a dislay driver cleaner? Plus rubberbanding has nothing to do with GPU, that's server lag.
yeah, the cheaper oem cooler boards will be fine, although avoid ITX, htpc, or blower cards as such cards will thermal clip faster. If you want to get just a bit more through an OC, get a 2x8 pin power connector gpu (like this one)
take an internet speedtest on the computer and see what the ping is, if you are sure it isn't due to the computer lagging instead of the internet perhaps you can replace the attenna included with the wifi card with a large high gain one? Do you know what specific wifi card they have?
I think my bf took care of uninstalling it without any cleaner, but I also got rid of any other folder that said "Nvidia" in its name. Maybe it's just a coincidence that I'm having this (extremely annoying) issue at the moment. I find it odd that it affects several games, but not every online game I play.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
Hi GAF,
My SSD write speeds seem low (850 250GB), does anyone know what could be the reason? Thanks.
my samsung 1tb 850 evo had slower write speeds than advertised when i first installed it. i fixed it by changing some setting in windows itself. i can't remember what it was exactly unfortunately but i would recommend going into BIOS and making sure it's running under AHCI mode and then go into windows and head to Device Manger > Disk Drives > select your drive > properties > check "Enable write caching on the device" and see if that helps you out.
just check the advertised speeds and you should get close to them. my drive does 555/535.
i have the MSI Gaming X and highly recommend it. last i checked it had a good balance of performance/cooling compared to other brands. EVGA seem to run hottest and have had issues so maybe best avoid them. other than that I see Gigabyte highly recommended also. the "cheaper" brands like Palit etc have higher stock clock speeds but i don't think it really matters. it just means it can achieve a higher stock speed. if you get a card with lower speeds you can probably overclock it to get just as close. my gaming x does 2035 core / 4535 memory
VeteranGamer
Banned
decided to test how fast my nvme drive was, seems close enough to spec
usb cards don't have nearly as much watts to power antenna vs a 1x PCI-E board, but with a big antenna it might just work out fine
anothertech
Member
Finally had the chance to upgrade, had my eye on this build for a while. Almost everything was half price over cyber monday week. Is my first water cooled system.
Water Cooled i7 6700 4GHz
32GB DDR4 Ram
(2) 5TB HDD
(1) 500GB SSD
GTX 1080 OC, 8GB
Windows 10 Pro
Been running everything full throttle, BF1, Witcher 3, bunch of my old steam games.
Nice thing to know is, I can run all games at 2x pixel density (downsampled on Oculus Rift) using the Oculus SDK tool with no framerate issues thus far. I've played The Unspoken, EvE, The Climb, and some Steam games as well. The downsampled mode is game changer for visuals, and with the Touch Controllers, it's a whole new level of VR tbh.
Question about water cooled systems, is there some kind of maintenance I need to worry about? After research, it seems too simple honestly.
Water Cooled i7 6700 4GHz
32GB DDR4 Ram
(2) 5TB HDD
(1) 500GB SSD
GTX 1080 OC, 8GB
Windows 10 Pro
Been running everything full throttle, BF1, Witcher 3, bunch of my old steam games.
Nice thing to know is, I can run all games at 2x pixel density (downsampled on Oculus Rift) using the Oculus SDK tool with no framerate issues thus far. I've played The Unspoken, EvE, The Climb, and some Steam games as well. The downsampled mode is game changer for visuals, and with the Touch Controllers, it's a whole new level of VR tbh.
Question about water cooled systems, is there some kind of maintenance I need to worry about? After research, it seems too simple honestly.
Bloodember
Member
If its an AIO, then no, its a sealed system.
Thanks everyone for the help! I ran into a small hiccup with the GPU but I got that squared away! I built this computer for someone that has a small business and wanted to get a program that only ran on Windows.
Final Specs:
CPU: Intel 6500 3.2ghz
Mobo: MSI Bazooka b150m
RAM: Geil Evo Potenza DDR4 16gig (2400)
GPU: XFX rx 460 2gig
SSD: Mushkin 250gig
HDD: WD Blue 2tb 5400
PSU: EVGA Supernova 550 G2
Case: Thermaltake Core v21
Overall, I'm excited for the build it should last them a very long time!
Final Specs:
CPU: Intel 6500 3.2ghz
Mobo: MSI Bazooka b150m
RAM: Geil Evo Potenza DDR4 16gig (2400)
GPU: XFX rx 460 2gig
SSD: Mushkin 250gig
HDD: WD Blue 2tb 5400
PSU: EVGA Supernova 550 G2
Case: Thermaltake Core v21
Overall, I'm excited for the build it should last them a very long time!
cebri.one
Member
I managed to fix it. Instead of downloading the Intel Rapid Storage drivers from Gigabyte i got them from Intel's webpage. Now writing speeds are reaching 510.
Install Samsung Magician and see if everything is fine. If there's something wrong or not configured correctly it will probably let you know.
Interesting.
For my 830 is gives a 542 Read, 391 Write. Random read 65,995 and write 34,758
For my 850 is has a ! at interface, it appears it is a 3.0 GB I must have it hooked into the wrong place in the mobo?
Also, should I turn on RAPID Mode?
I guess I will try to rewire right now
That may be the case, try to connect it to the corresponfing connector in your motherboard.
And don't turn on RAPID Mode, I did a bit of research some months ago to see if it was advisable to turn it on and all I came across was that it does increment the speeds a tiny bit (mostly if you have the SSD connected to SATA2) but if you have the SSD connected to SATA3 @ 6.0Gb/s then the gains are very low. And in any case, activating it will consume about 4Gb of RAM so I wouldn't recommend it.
Bloodember
Member
Did you make sure they are plugged in? How old are they?
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