Not the 960, but I quit waiting for Amazon UK's 850 EVO M.2 and purchased a PM961 M.2 from a specialist retailer.
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Not the 960, but I quit waiting for Amazon UK's 850 EVO M.2 and purchased a PM961 M.2 from a specialist retailer.
I updated the list that I posted earlier. Does this look better or should I also change the motherboard?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WmY9yf
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WmY9yf
Radiators have the same mounting holes as fans. So it really doesn't change the basic design of a case that much. Just find something that you like the look of. Cases are a very personal choice. You could look in to the Corsair Air series, they're ventilated, support a lot of different cooling options, and are easy to work with. The Fractal R series is also nice, with sound dampening and clean lines.
If you want smaller form factor, there are mATX and mITX cases that are smaller than ATX cases. Both the ones I mentioned have smaller versions.
You really can't go wrong with what you pick. If you have some that you like the look of, ask us about it, maybe there are other suggestions that look similar, but have better features and/or price.
finalflame
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Bought mine at a local computer shop the day the Z270 boards came out. They had plenty. One is currently sitting in my PC:
No idea why they seem rare now :/
Nyteshade517
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a question about the placement of M.2 drives on motherboards...
most motherboards now come with two M.2 sockets...one on the bottom and one under the CPU/above the first slot for graphics cards
If you have a cooler like the NH-D15 and a graphics card installed are there any risks with installing the M.2 drive in the top socket? (like too much heat)
most motherboards now come with two M.2 sockets...one on the bottom and one under the CPU/above the first slot for graphics cards
If you have a cooler like the NH-D15 and a graphics card installed are there any risks with installing the M.2 drive in the top socket? (like too much heat)
OkayRene
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Thanks for the honesty.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
i was watching a video recently about the temperatures inside the PC case. one of the hottest parts is the GPU backplate so if the m.2 drive is near that then yeah it's gonna catch a lot of heat. i'm not sure if it's really anything to worry about though.
edit: the video was this one https://youtu.be/vc1UBZM4egc?t=282
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
as new? did you by any chance purchase an OEM version? my 6700K came in a little black box with a bit of foam in it. if you want it in the official packaging then you buy the retail version. i just went with OEM because it was about £20 cheaper and i don't care much for boxes.
New. The listing even says it comes with a fan and the reviews refer to it.
It also looks like its had thermal paste scraped off it. Sketchy af and I am returning it no question.
I bought a Evga 500w white psu for my old i5 2500k computer and the fan on it sounds a little rattling.
I then notice that the 220v connector for the psu makes this lovely bzzzzzz sounds when touched. The fitting in the connector of the psu is loose.
These things can start a fire.
The cables feels like low quality. Not near my old 600w psu and the connectors for some of the parts are bad fitting aswell (cpu power for example)
If someone is thinking of buying evga 500w white I would recommend looking at something else.
Did not even bother open it up to check if its got good brand on caps. Im sure it will not have that.
I then notice that the 220v connector for the psu makes this lovely bzzzzzz sounds when touched. The fitting in the connector of the psu is loose.
These things can start a fire.
The cables feels like low quality. Not near my old 600w psu and the connectors for some of the parts are bad fitting aswell (cpu power for example)
If someone is thinking of buying evga 500w white I would recommend looking at something else.
Did not even bother open it up to check if its got good brand on caps. Im sure it will not have that.
opticalmace
Member
Yikes. Budget line I'm guessing? I would replace that soon if you haven't already.
Bloodember
Member
Yeah, never buy any brands entry level PSU's they are normally crap.
Yes. And yes.
Its this one, dont buy it even for your old computers.
https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16817438016
Celcius
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Whew, finally finished the office pc for my parents using my old parts and just a few new ones.
i7 2600k
Asus p8z68 pro gen3
16gb g.skill 2133mhz ddr3
Cooler master hyper 212 evo
Pny gtx 1050
Seasonic platinum 660 psu
256gb Samsung 840 Pro
160gb Intel 320 series
Fractal Define R5 Blacked-out Edition with Aerocool DS fans
Samsung DVD burner
Windows 10 pro
A very silent machine and looks great. Most of the parts I already had. They basically just check their email and surf the web so the gtx 1050 is plenty for them. The psu and case should last even when it's eventually time to upgrade the machine again. Very happy with the way it turned out.
i7 2600k
Asus p8z68 pro gen3
16gb g.skill 2133mhz ddr3
Cooler master hyper 212 evo
Pny gtx 1050
Seasonic platinum 660 psu
256gb Samsung 840 Pro
160gb Intel 320 series
Fractal Define R5 Blacked-out Edition with Aerocool DS fans
Samsung DVD burner
Windows 10 pro
A very silent machine and looks great. Most of the parts I already had. They basically just check their email and surf the web so the gtx 1050 is plenty for them. The psu and case should last even when it's eventually time to upgrade the machine again. Very happy with the way it turned out.
Need help deciding on which Monitor to keep as I ordered both:
BenQ ZOWIE 24" 1080p LED Full HD 144Hz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H5KKQTM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_sf7GybFT6JK3W
Or
Acer XF240H bmjdpr 24-inch Full HD (1920 x 1080) AMD FreeSync Display (Display Port, DVI & HDMI Port, 144Hz Refresh Rate)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DHTWZRQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ah7GybXPP0HV3
The BenQ was $90 more but I'm not seeing a big difference. Am I missing any details spec wise?
BenQ ZOWIE 24" 1080p LED Full HD 144Hz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H5KKQTM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_sf7GybFT6JK3W
Or
Acer XF240H bmjdpr 24-inch Full HD (1920 x 1080) AMD FreeSync Display (Display Port, DVI & HDMI Port, 144Hz Refresh Rate)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DHTWZRQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ah7GybXPP0HV3
The BenQ was $90 more but I'm not seeing a big difference. Am I missing any details spec wise?
NJDEN
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Need some help with a RAM trouble shooting scenario. I've got 6 DDR2 2GB RAM sticks that are all from the same brand and should be identical. Unfortunately they do not play well together. Only two of the six sticks will work in tandem, the remaining four sticks will only work if no other sticks are inserted.
I know using RAM from different brands can be iffy, but these sticks are all the same. The system is old, but I updated the BIOS to the latest version (2009). I did not get into computers until the DDR3 days where RAM is more plug and play friendly and a BIOS flash fixes 90% of incompatibility. Does anyone have any suggestions?
I know using RAM from different brands can be iffy, but these sticks are all the same. The system is old, but I updated the BIOS to the latest version (2009). I did not get into computers until the DDR3 days where RAM is more plug and play friendly and a BIOS flash fixes 90% of incompatibility. Does anyone have any suggestions?
opticalmace
Member
Could be that certain ram slots on your motherboard have issues. You'd have to do some testing to be sure. Also maybe try running memtest when you can get them to boot to help you figure out if any particular sticks are borked?
DeadbeatCassanova
Member
Anyone have any advice on selling a custom built PC? Kinda in a bind and need to sell my PC. Would it be better to sell it piecemeal or all together?
As far as pricing goes I've read that its best to see how much it would cost to buy brand new and knock 30% off that since its used. Is this right?
As far as pricing goes I've read that its best to see how much it would cost to buy brand new and knock 30% off that since its used. Is this right?
What are the specs? I have a friend who is looking for a new PC.
Because there's no difference.
DeadbeatCassanova
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CPU-Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler-Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard-MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory-G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory
Storage-Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card-MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card
Case-Corsair Graphite Series 230T Grey ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply-Rosewill HIVE 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive-LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Operating System-Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit
Wireless Network Adapter-Rosewill N900PCE PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter
Monitor-LG 25UM64-S 25.0" 2560x1080 60Hz Monitor
Got a few more parts in for my build.
https://youtu.be/E-_8d4DAjf4
I can't get anybody to give me any information(reached out to Fractal and Gigabyte) about putting the Extreme gaming 1060 in a Fractal 500 case. Need to take a look at the measurements closely but that card is so tall I'm worried about conflicting with the case side.
https://youtu.be/E-_8d4DAjf4
I can't get anybody to give me any information(reached out to Fractal and Gigabyte) about putting the Extreme gaming 1060 in a Fractal 500 case. Need to take a look at the measurements closely but that card is so tall I'm worried about conflicting with the case side.
Case spec
Graphics cards up to 310 mm in length (note: graphics cards longer than 170 mm will not fit with PSUs that exceed 170 mm)
1060 Xtreme
281mm length
You aren't going to have an issue.
Length isn't the issue lol but the height from top to bottom. It's a Zotac type tall card.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Based on what video I can find it should fit, thought it might be a bit snug in all directions.
frozenmeatpopsicle
Neo Member
Apologies if this isn't the right place to put it, but I just upgraded my Dad's PC with:
i5 7400
Gigabyte B250M-D3H
Gigabyte GTX 1050
8gb(2400) ram
The case, power supply and hard drives remain from the previous version, which was fairly old(the DVD burner was connected via an IDE ribbon cable, natively). Did a fresh format and install of Windows 7, but it's performing kinda badly. Windows itself keeps soft freezing for moments at a time, just navigating the OS. I'm trying to do Windows Updates as well, but it keeps getting stuck on installing an update, every 20-50 or so, forcing a hard reboot.
My initial thought was that the hard drives are old and slow-ish and are being a big bottleneck, but it wasn't a problem before the upgrade. It later dawned on me that maybe it's a clash between Win7 and the new 7th Gen processors, which research leads me to think could be the problem. Unfortunately I can't find any info other than Intel and Microsoft making the deal to be Win10 exclusive, and will eventually lock out updates?
Could this be the cause of the bad performance?
i5 7400
Gigabyte B250M-D3H
Gigabyte GTX 1050
8gb(2400) ram
The case, power supply and hard drives remain from the previous version, which was fairly old(the DVD burner was connected via an IDE ribbon cable, natively). Did a fresh format and install of Windows 7, but it's performing kinda badly. Windows itself keeps soft freezing for moments at a time, just navigating the OS. I'm trying to do Windows Updates as well, but it keeps getting stuck on installing an update, every 20-50 or so, forcing a hard reboot.
My initial thought was that the hard drives are old and slow-ish and are being a big bottleneck, but it wasn't a problem before the upgrade. It later dawned on me that maybe it's a clash between Win7 and the new 7th Gen processors, which research leads me to think could be the problem. Unfortunately I can't find any info other than Intel and Microsoft making the deal to be Win10 exclusive, and will eventually lock out updates?
Could this be the cause of the bad performance?
JonnyDBrit
Member
Kabylake doesn't officially support anything before Windows 10. It's not strictly impossible to run, but there's no proper drivers for it.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Ryzen 8-core CPU is releasing February 28th. Worth waiting until then if you can before upgrading to an expensive Intel HEDT 8-core or 6-core.
Should be 1 other Ryzen CPU released on that date also.
Should be 1 other Ryzen CPU released on that date also.
Bloodember
Member
Where did you get that information? I haven't seen anywhere where AMD has given an actual date.
frozenmeatpopsicle
Neo Member
Yea, that's more or less what I gathered. So would it be safe to say that it is Win7 "clashing" with the 7400 that's causing the garbage performance, yes? Is it possible that it could be anything else?
JonnyDBrit
Member
It's almost certainly what's going on. You might be able to find an installer for Windows 10 out around somewhere to force an update.
EVA UNIT 01
Member
970
i5 6500
16gb
Im sitting here and with my taxes wondering if i should go 1060 or 1070.
1060 is an upgrade sure but is it one worth taking?
id be selling my 970 after so both are within reason.
id be looking at $120 out of pocket for a 1060 or $250 for a 1070.
talk to me gaf
i5 6500
16gb
Im sitting here and with my taxes wondering if i should go 1060 or 1070.
1060 is an upgrade sure but is it one worth taking?
id be selling my 970 after so both are within reason.
id be looking at $120 out of pocket for a 1060 or $250 for a 1070.
talk to me gaf
No point in going from a 970 to 1060. If you're gonna do it. then DO IT.
What kind of monitor do you have? Maybe it'd be a good time to upgrade to a G-Sync instead of a new video card?
Ok GAF, my i5 2500k fucking died, my caviar black drive died and my mobo died.
I haven't really paid attention to hardware in awhile so i have no idea what the fuck is going on (holy shit @ HDD sizes being so cheap), but I'm looking to get another 6 years out of a new build like I did with my old one. Here's what I'm thinking of so far...
CPU: Intel i7-6850K
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 SC (mercifully that didn't get toasted)
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5" SATA III Internal SSD
HDD: WD Black 6TB 3.5" 7200 RPM
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Super Multi Blue Internal SATA 16X BRD Rewrite
PSU: EVGA Supernova 1000 P2, 80+ Plat 1000Q
That's about as far as I've gotten, I need recommendations for MOBO, Case, Memory, and CPU cooler...
Please tell me if I've done fucked up on any of my picks so far.
I haven't really paid attention to hardware in awhile so i have no idea what the fuck is going on (holy shit @ HDD sizes being so cheap), but I'm looking to get another 6 years out of a new build like I did with my old one. Here's what I'm thinking of so far...
CPU: Intel i7-6850K
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 SC (mercifully that didn't get toasted)
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5" SATA III Internal SSD
HDD: WD Black 6TB 3.5" 7200 RPM
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Super Multi Blue Internal SATA 16X BRD Rewrite
PSU: EVGA Supernova 1000 P2, 80+ Plat 1000Q
That's about as far as I've gotten, I need recommendations for MOBO, Case, Memory, and CPU cooler...
Please tell me if I've done fucked up on any of my picks so far.
EVA UNIT 01
Member
...yeah i figured i should just go hard and do the 1070.
and im actually looking into monitors at this very moment to take full advantage of said card.
any recommendations on where to start?
im looking blind and not sure what usual pricing is for these things
TC McQueen
Member
AMD's doing a GDC seminar on how to optimize programming for Ryzen, so it has to come out by February 28 (when GDC starts) at the earliest:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11031/amd-set-to-launch-ryzen-before-march-3rd-meeting-q1-target
25-40% faster.
opticalmace
Member
That's too low, generally. It's more like 55%+. e.g., https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Quick_Silver_OC/29.html.
Bloodember
Member
It shouldn't bottleneck the GPU, but that being said. That CPU is very old.
I know, but it's cheaper than the alternative, mostly. Just debating whether or not to do it at the moment.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
A guy from Overclock.net gave the forums the date. The guy is trustworthy so barring delays, it's pretty certain to release on Feb 28. In any case certain mobos have been confirmed to be releasing 'before March 28th' so not long to go now.
longdi
Banned
That's tough luck. If you can wait, wait for ryzen. I don't think the 8 cores part will be cheap, but it will competitive.
Right now you are better off with 5820k if you still can find one, else 6800k. Cause I don't see a reasonable reason for paying extra for the pcie lanes,fuck Intel
Bloodember
Member
I have an X61 on an mini ITX and a X41 on another mini ITX. How do you know it's the cooler? Also don't get the 212 EVO. The X41 should work I doubt it's the cooler. What's your specs? More information on what's it doing would be helpful also.
frozenmeatpopsicle
Neo Member
Welp, I guess we'll just get a copy of Win10 then. Thanks for helping clear things up.
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