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I turned LLC down to "Standard" because I was seeing really high voltages and high-ish temps. I have a Z170XP-SLI for mobo, btw.

I just switched it back to "High" for LLC, and I am again seeing high voltages. I set my voltage to 1.32v in the BIOS, and I am seeing ~1.38v in Core Temp. CPU-Z is saying 1.32, however.

What kind of vcore are you using? Fixed, offset, auto?
 

appaws

Banned
I'm sorry if this has been asked a lot lately, but I need some reassurance. I'm looking to upgrade my GPU from a GTX 760 to either a 980 TI or a 1070 for a new 1440p G-Sync monitor I just got and haven't set up yet (I'm currently using a 1080p 60Hz monitor). Should I keep waiting for a decent price on a non-founders edition 1070, or should I go ahead and get a 980 TI, or should I wait for that to drop in price? Deals like this are getting very tempting. I'll provide more information if needed.

I would wait a bit and get a non-reference 1070 with a nice cooler.

I'm assuming a 1080 will run games on 1440p at high fps?

Yes.

Fixed.

EDIT: I think Core Temp is just inaccurate. The BIOS Vcore reading (when set to 1.32) is close to the reading in CPU-Z: 1.308v.

Try Real Temp and HW monitor. For a 6700k use Real Temp GT.
 

LilJoka

Member
¯_(ツ)_/¯

FATAL ERROR: Final result was CC75E8BE, expected 763B1556.

EDIT: Maybe not? Voltage looks very low.

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EDIT2: Wow, it's all Vdroop:
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VID is not VCORE.
VID is what the CPU is asking for.
Vcore is what the CPU is supplied.
 

Ragona

Member
Seeing as consoles are apparantly trying to push 4k gaming ( tho Its apparantly unrealistic the next Xbox or Playstation get performing 4k games), I wonder if a 1440p screen is worth it at this point, or if I should rather wait for 4k solutions.

Im planning on getting a 1080 Gtx this week, but still got an old Samsung 27' 1080p screen. Was considering to also swap to a gsync screen to enjoy all the luxeries of pc gaming, but cant really decide now if i should get a 1440 or 1080p version and swap to 4k in 2-3 years.
After playing for years on 27' I dont see myself going back to 24' tho...
 
God damnit. Fuck modern hardware reliability. I bought a 3TB Toshiba HDD last year believing GAF (you guys told me they were basically Hitachi drives and super reliable) and one year later it's started making very loud clicks and squeaks while idle.

Immediately took it off and ordered an external 3TB Seagate drive to get my data backed up. I will then RMA the Toshiba, and sell the returned product.

Seriously, FUCK modern hard drives.

You know what's sad? My PC is currently running on an old system backup that was on a 10 year old 300GB Samsung SATA HDD. I actually have two of those in the system at the moment. I ran them in RAID 0 24/7 for maybe 3 years before retiring them as backup drives. And they still run FLAWLESSLY.

And today I thought I would do something.. I took the 300GB drive in one hand and the 3TB drive in the other. The old Samsung is twice as heavy as the new Toshiba. Build quality? Who gives a shit anymore.

What's a man to do? Can you just not count on storage to work at least a couple of years anymore?
 

Grandi

Member
I mentioned a couple of pages back that my 24" 1080p BenQ is starting to show its age, and that my 7970 died a while back so I need to replace them both. I've narrowed my choices to buying an RX480 and a 27"+ 1440p 120Hz+ Freesync monitor (as a stopgap solution), or a GTX1080 and a 21:9 G-Sync monitor. I have an overclocked 2600K and 16GB of DDR3. I'm kinda starting to lean on the AMD option, since the 1080+21:9 combo would cost me well over 1500€. None of the 21:9 (or even 16:9) monitors on the market have support for HDR, so spending that much now (when a big upgrade to display technology is just around the corner) seems kinda dumb. Once 21:9 HDR capable monitors hit the market, I'd buy one as a new main monitor, and use the 16:9 as a secondary monitor. I'd have to build a new PC at that point too, since the RX480+2600K machine probably wont have enough juice to run a 21:9 1440p screen at high settings. (I better start saving some cash...)

So my question is: do you guys have any suggestions for 16:9 1440p Freesync 120Hz+ monitors? Preferably under 600€. Pivot would be a nice feature also.
I've been looking at the Asus MG279Q 27", which seems to tick all the right boxes. Anything else that might suit my needs?
 

Grinchy

Banned
Is the Microsoft conference worth watching as a PC gamer given their new commitment to the platform? Yes, I know the PC gaming show is today as well.

I found it extremely boring minus a few highlights. And as a PC gamer, the only thing that'll interest you is something you seem to already know about.
 

Afro

Member
What would fix the occasional hitching/stutter I get while streaming movies in VUDU?

Would disabling SpeedStep in the BIOS help? I read that it might. I just did that, but need to test it.

My internet is fine. 55mbps download / 25 up. 10 ping.

i7 3770 / 980 Ti / 16GB RAM / Firefox

Thanks in advance!
 

pelican

Member
Anyone tried PS4 in a 4K or 1440p monitor?

Wondering how it holds up. I'm either going to buy the Acer Predator 1440 IPS or 4K one so I'm interested in knowing. Doesn't need to be on those two monitors specifically.

(I'm also thinking about NEO and Scorpio)
 
This info might be somewhere in this thread but im quite new to pc gaming and im not sure getting a 1070 would mean i have to upgrade anything else. can somebody shed some light on it please?


Edit: This has been answered in another thread.
 

JMTHEFOX

Member
Hey guys, I have recently finished building my second pc and installed the free upgrade to Windows 10.

however once I plugged in my TP-Link tl-wn823n USB wifi adapter, I noticed that my internet is way slower that my other PC that is connected to ethernet.

I tried installing and reinstalling the utility and updated the drivers and yet the internet speed is slow. I tried inserting it with a logitech extension cable and still no luck.
 

e90Mark

Member
For people who missed out on the S2716DG deal from last week, you can get a refurbished one for $350 with coupon code qdd35CONS. 144hz, 1440p, 27", G-Sync.

http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/22/campaigns/dell-coupons-codes-us-outlet

Coupon doesn't show up on desktop site, but it works fine. Crazy deal if you don't pay tax, especially considering how easy it is to get dell gift cards for 80-90% of face value.

Great deal. Pretty tempted, even though I get charged tax as it's still under $400 shipped. I wanted to hold out though, hmm...
 

Grief.exe

Member
Anyone tried PS4 in a 4K or 1440p monitor?

Wondering how it holds up. I'm either going to buy the Acer Predator 1440 IPS or 4K one so I'm interested in knowing. Doesn't need to be on those two monitors specifically.

(I'm also thinking about NEO and Scorpio)

Many of those gsync monitors actually don't have an internal upscaler, so a PS4 would be impossible.

Sitting close to an upscaled, 1080p image would look quite bad.
 

finalflame

Banned
So, my nVidia FE has started to, very occasionally, produce a slight "flicker" (but not a full screen off/on) with horizontally banded glitched lines. It seems to only happen on my desktop, so not under D3D or OGL load. The card is stable for multiple passes of Firestrike, Unigine Heaven, Unigine Valley, Furmark, and multiple hours of Overwatch.

Anyone have any ideas or heard of this? Already tried a different DP cable, different DP port, all I haven't tried is a different monitor but I doubt that's the issue as I was running iGPU previously without ever seeing this.

Happens very seldom. Already sent a return request to nVidia support but I shudder at the thought of dealing with a return via Digital River.
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
Newegg has the MSI 980Ti Golden Edition for $399.99 ($369.99 after MIR)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127912

debating whether I should jump on this and call it a day or wait for a 1070 which will be that little bit more expensive
I looked at this too and its a great deal. Its cheaper but I assume I'll get some more headroom with the 1070. So i just hopped on the 1070 just now when the evga just came back in stock.

edit:
looks like the 1070s are gone again. Got damn.
 

muu

Member
Getting tired of waiting for the 1070, may just jump on this one...

What's there to lose w/ 6GB of VRAM vs 8GB at this point?
 
Ok, so I have a Phanteks P400 case, which I've loved for its size and cable management. I am now having an issue with cooling. I bought an EVGA SC 1080 and am having an issue where temps begin to creep from the 68c to 78C in long term gaming sessions. I decided today to remove the front panels, which channel the front to fans through two small channels and the top filter that fit over the top fans. This maneuver leveled my temps at 69-70C over long gaming sessions.

So my question is. Should I just buy a new PC case and sell this one? Or attempt to upgrade all the fans? Maybe get the Corsair SP fans for the front where they're restricted, and AF elsewhere?

I am considering the Coolermaster HAF 932, EVGA DG-85(which is probably too tall) and the Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV
 
Hey Gaf, is there much of a difference between

Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz 1151 Boxed Processor $199
Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz LGA 1151 Boxed Processor $180
Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz LGA 1150 Boxed Processor $160


I'm mainly going to be using the PC for


- excel spreadsheets
- I will be using two monitors , maybe even three so I will have some live news streams running on one, while the others will have tons of Firefox and Chrome tabs

-Tons of tabs open on Firefox and Chrome as well different programs open such as Skype, Excel, trading software etc running at the same time

- Some light data mining

-I will also want to stream (mainly older games, visual novels and emulators)

Thanks.

Hey guys I'm curious if it's worth buying the $200 processor for my usage.
I plan to spend around $600 all together (minus monitor and peripherals)
Thanks.
 
Ok, so I have a Phanteks P400 case, which I've loved for its size and cable management. I am now having an issue with cooling. I bought an EVGA SC 1080 and am having an issue where temps begin to creep from the 68c to 78C in long term gaming sessions. I decided today to remove the front panels, which channel the front to fans through two small channels and the top filter that fit over the top fans. This maneuver leveled my temps at 69-70C over long gaming sessions.

So my question is. Should I just buy a new PC case and sell this one? Or attempt to upgrade all the fans? Maybe get the Corsair SP fans for the front where they're restricted, and AF elsewhere?

I am considering the Coolermaster HAF 932 and the Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV
I'm not sure I understand what you did. You removed the filters? Anything else? I'd be surprised if the filters made that much of a difference.

78C is still quite cool for a GPU btw. And you could always increase the fans slightly if you wanted.
 

ACE 1991

Member
This info might be somewhere in this thread but im quite new to pc gaming and im not sure getting a 1070 would mean i have to upgrade anything else. can somebody shed some light on it please?



Edit: This has been answered in another thread.

Nope, you're good to go. Though if you're playing at 1080p I would say that upgrading to a 970 may not be worth the money, unless you're really just itching to upgrade.
 
Processors never do.

The cooler might.

K series never did come with stock coolers. My first-gen i7 875K didn't anyway, and neither did my 6600K. Most good coolers come with a tube of (generally meh) thermal paste that you need to apply yourself.

My advice: spend $5 on some Arctic Silver 5 and call it a day.

Also, I've started trying to OC my reference 980 and it's going quite well. I've been following this guide and while I haven't yet pushed the card as far as they have, I do have an extra 200Mhz on the core clock and 400Mhz on the memory (no voltage change, just maxed out the power limit in Afterburner). Seems stable (no throttling or artifacting) after 30 mins in Unigine Heaven, and with my custom fan curve the core temp hovers around 72-73°C, which is acceptable (fan's damn loud though, but I can't really hear it that much when there's audio coming through the speakers or when I've got headphones on, so no biggie).

If anyone's interested, here are my Heaven benchmark and 3DMark scores at stock and with OC (i5 6600K, 16Gb DDR4-3000, SSD):

Code:
Heaven, everything maxed out, 8xMSAA, 1440p (Min/Max/Avg. FPS; score):

Stock: 21.1/81.8/39.1; 985
OC: 22.4/92.2/44.0; 1108

3DMark Fire Strike Extreme custom test, 1440p, no AA, left the other settings alone:

Stock: Graphics 5945, Physics 7915, Combined 2664
OC: Graphics 6919, Physics 7866, Combined 3059
 
I'm not sure I understand what you did. You removed the filters? Anything else? I'd be surprised if the filters made that much of a difference.

78C is still quite cool for a GPU btw. And you could always increase the fans slightly if you wanted.


If you take a look at the case, you can see the front panel forces the air intake through two small slits in the front of the case, at the top and botttom. P400. I completely removed that panel, exposing the fans completely.

Cranking the fans on the GPU hasn't helped much either. I realize those aren't crazy temps, but they do get into the low 80s after an hour. After chatting in the 1080 thread, most people have been able to OC and still maintain 70C, I am the exception, which most have said is a case airflow problem. I would like 70C temps on my GPU.
 
If you take a look at the case, you can see the front panel forces the air intake through two small slits in the front of the case, at the top and botttom. P400. I completely removed that panel, exposing the fans completely.

Cranking the fans on the GPU hasn't helped much either. I realize those aren't crazy temps, but they do get into the low 80s after an hour. After chatting in the 1080 thread, most people have been able to OC and still maintain 70C, I am the exception, which most have said is a case airflow problem. I would like 70C temps on my GPU.

Ahh, I see now. Hm, are you able to post a picture of the innards of your setup? Also sounds really strange that cranking the GPU fans didn't do much. Do you have an FE? What fan speed % is it at when ~80C?
 

kennah

Member
What's a typical 780 overclock? I'm not comfortable with custom bios so it would be stock voltage. Card is an evga 780 super clocked
 
Ahh, I see now. Hm, are you able to post a picture of the innards of your setup? Also sounds really strange that cranking the GPU fans didn't do much. Do you have an FE? What fan speed % is it at when ~80C?

It's an EVGA SC. Tried Doom again with front cover off, temps went to 77C pretty quick. GPU fans at about 80%, I am using an aggressive curve. As soon as I popped the front off again, temps went down to 73.

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I think the Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 or the Cooler Master HAF are the route I'll go, unless someone thinks getting corsair SP fans are going to fix the front airflow issue.
 
I'm still on a i5-2500K @ 4.5 ghz. Any chance that would be a bottleneck for a 1070? Am I better off waiting to build new with a new mobo and cpu?
 

DJ88

Member
Looks really nice! No matter how much I try, I can never seem to make my builds look that clean. I suck at cable management lol.

Thank you! Yeah the cable management was a real pain and took up a large chunk of my time building.

Looks great man! I saved your parts list. Im knowledgeable when it comes to hardware and specs but I'm going for the same black/white theme and hadn't really looked at MSI for the mobo, nor Geil for ram. I do want the black and white MSI line of GPUs they showed recently. Our systems will be quite similar I think!

Awesome. I'm also deciding between the Armor or Sea Hawk MSI cards. At this point I think I'll just get which ever one I can get my hands on first.

Nice. I just built something almost identical, same case + CPU + cooler. I ended up mounting the cooler at the front. From the looks you have air intake through 2 fans at the front and exhaust through rear fan + top CPU cooler?

I agree about the wait for a 1080, it's killing me!

Yup, I've seen lots of people mount it on the front, but I just slightly preferred the look of it on top. And yes exactly, intake through the front two and exhaust through the rear and top
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
So I just brought a case for my new PC and Google comes up and say they will give me free purchase protection because Newegg is legit and ranks highly, I know google is find but what I really wanna know is is there some type of catch?
 

Unstable

Member
It's an EVGA SC. Tried Doom again with front cover off, temps went to 77C pretty quick. GPU fans at about 80%, I am using an aggressive curve. As soon as I popped the front off again, temps went down to 73.

*snip*

I think the Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 or the Cooler Master HAF are the route I'll go, unless someone thinks getting corsair SP fans are going to fix the front airflow issue.

I have the same GPU, with a very mild 100MHz OC on the core clock and a slightly adjusted fan curve. I haven't see it hit above 70C (63C average on GPU-Z log) under full sustained load (Witcher 3 @ 3440x1440/uncapped framerate for a hour, plus various stress testing utilities) My case is a Corsair 750D (Stock. Not AFE)

Perhaps your CPU heatsink is heating up the case a tad? (My rig has a H115i AIO for perspective) Granted, it should be negligible, but poor case airflow will exacerbate that issue.

Either way, I personally recommend both the 750D and Air 540, fantastic cases.


Edit: No improvement when using an aggressive fan curve indicates an exhaust issue to me. Try adding another fan as rear or top exhaust if possible.
 
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