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RE6 > RE7

I heard a story that the Japanese script was dead serious, but the English localization team ended up camping it up.

It was more a case of them not actually having a dedicated translation team, hiring VAs living in Japan, and being pretty much oblivious to Western speech syntax/context. While the first game is conceptually and aesthetically goofy as fuck in any language, the Japanese script did play a little more straight than ours.

Later games have intentionally embraced the divide, but with REmake at least, they brought it more in line with the Japanese original.

 

[Rei_Toei]

It sometimes seems like everyone wants something different out of the franchise, Capcom tries to capitalize on this but quite often it just doesn't work out. I really liked the idea behind Operation Raccoon City, but the game was (mostly) very weak. RE7 wasn't my cuppa tea but I love that they had the balls to do something like it and put something really well-made on the market.

As for me, I kinda hope they return to the survival horror aspects of the series but with a wider scope. More RE4 than 5/6, but with a more traditional RE setting. Not sandbox, but also not as limited as the older games. I don't need 54 different weird enemy BOWs, I just want a couple that are really well-executed and scare me shitless. like the Hunters did in the original RE.

 

[Piichan]

At this point Capcom is aware that there are several RE genres and its respective fans, and I'm confident they want to please all kinds of fans. I ain't worried.

 

[Kazuhira]

I think RE8 is going back to the action route but closer to RE4 than 6.
And this is coming from someone who loves RE7.

 

[uceenk]

i like RE 6, having a blast played it with my wife back then

yeah the story kinda all over the place, but i really enjoyed the co-op mechanic

 

[KyleCross]

It was more a case of them not actually having a dedicated translation team, hiring VAs living in Japan, and being pretty much oblivious to Western speech syntax/context. While the first game is conceptually and aesthetically goofy as fuck in any language, the Japanese script did play a little more straight than ours.

Later games have intentionally embraced the divide, but with REmake at least, they brought it more in line with the Japanese original.

We were talking specifically about RE4, not the process that lead to how the original game was.

 

[Jangowuzhere]

Why is "Action" Resident Evil so important?

We don't get a lot of well made AAA horror games these days. I'd rather Capcom make something more unique with the Resident Evil series.

The mechanics and ideas of RE6 could be implemented into other ips. They don't need to be stuck to Resident Evil, a series where such ideas eally don't fit at all.

At this point Capcom is aware that there are several RE genres and its respective fans, and I'm confident they want to please all kinds of fans. I ain't worried.

That's exactly what they tried to do with RE6, and it was a critical failure as a result.

 

[CryptiK]

Why is "Action" Resident Evil so important?

We don't get a lot of well made AAA horror games these days. I'd rather Capcom make something more unique with the Resident Evil series.

The mechanics and ideas of RE6 could be implemented into other ips. They don't need to be stuck to Resident Evil, a series where such ideas eally don't fit at all.



That's exactly what they tried to do with RE6, and it was a critical failure as a result.

Its not, especially when you have the second half of RE7 the way it was.

Anyone claiming want to have an "action" RE back, didnt play RE7 all the way through.

 

[Charlouie Jonesman]

We were talking specifically about RE4, not the process that lead to how the original game was.

The way I heard it was that the japanese script was pretty goofy (Intentionally) as well, like, the "Your right hand comes off?" line is straight from the original but the localization added a few more jokes here and there.

 

[Peroroncino]

Action or no, I just want third person perspective back.

 

[Fancy Clown]

I think any return to action for the series will still dial down the goofiness of 6 by a lot. I think their recent interviews they've seemed to embrace the more horror tone/aesthetics of the series, since more than any particular game mechanics that seems to be what people want the most.

 

[gafneo]

I think it would be cool if they made an Alice game series that had DMC action. Mainline should always be grisly horror.

 

[Blueblur1]

Actually I think they might but I'd prefer a refined RE5 type game over RE6.

Yes, this times a thousand.

 

[Village]

... isn't the word , they are making one...like right now?

So I guess the answer to your question is... yes

 

[KageMaru]

If they make another action game, I hope they keep it to the revelation series. I was OK with the action ramping up during the later part of RE7 since it was reaching its climax, but I don't want an entire game to be like that.

Do we have budget figures for both RE6 and RE7? I think it's clear that RE7 was a lower budget game and that influenced the direction with that game. In the end, I hope they enjoy a higher profit margin with RE7 and see that horror is still the best genre for the series.

 

[Fancy Clown]

... isn't the word , they are making one...like right now?

They're making a new RE game that we don't know anything about other than that it will capture the "survival horror" feeling, has older series characters, and is directed by the guy who did RE5 and Revelations 2. So I'd say there's at a good chance it will be more action forward than RE7.

 

[GhostTrick]

Nah, I think Action RE will be rebooted as Dino Crisis.

 

[Village]

Nah, I think Action RE will be rebooted as Dino Crisis.

One , hahahaha

two, you can't just replace that. Games are more than their mechanics, characters, themes, aesthetics. You can't just transfer them.

You will more than likely, like now, get multiple REs

 

[killatopak]

I knew jawmuncher made the thread even before going in.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Why is "Action" Resident Evil so important?

We don't get a lot of well made AAA horror games these days. I'd rather Capcom make something more unique with the Resident Evil series.

The mechanics and ideas of RE6 could be implemented into other ips. They don't need to be stuck to Resident Evil, a series where such ideas eally don't fit at all.



That's exactly what they tried to do with RE6, and it was a critical failure as a result.

I just gave a OP where I gave examples on Action RE and it's place in the series. Some people might not like it and it's fine.
RE4 actually saved the series, where due to the GC exclusivity deal, the series was on its last legs at capcom.
It's a part of the series at this point unless in the future capcom somehow decides to totally shift the series to never go down that line again. It's possible, but I wouldn't say it's likely.
Plus I'd argue that games like RE4-6 are just as uncommon as horror games. I can't think of any games this gen that'd fall in their camp outside maybe Rev 2 I guess, which downplayed the aspects anyway.
My whole aim is that I don't think capcom will give up on the action side of things. I also don't think capcom will go "well we made one horror game, we're never doing that again".

The sample data here I think should be enough for capcom to go "Looks like we need to try and cater to both. Even if it's just action game spinoffs" like some claim.

No reason to shun one side when both seem willing to wanna put forth the money.

Its not, especially when you have the second half of RE7 the way it was.

Anyone claiming want to have an "action" RE back, didnt play RE7 all the way through.

I've played RE7 4 times and have the platinum on PS4.
Action is the general term used for games that would be more like 4-6. Yes RE7 has action. Just like REmake has action. You wouldn't call either an action game though.

 

[Duxxy3]

I don't think they'll ever go full action, like RE6, again. Probably somewhere in the middle like RE4 or the Revelations games. I'm actually a little surprised there isn't a new Revelations game out this year. Maybe they're just spacing it away from 7.

 

[Roubjon]

Revelations 2 was too good, so I hope they do a 3.

 

[Nick_C]

Yep. And so will RE9. They do 3 games of the same style and then reinvent for the next game. RE 1,2,3 were fixed camera survival horror. RE 4,5,6 were third person over-the-shoulder survival action.

This is thrown out the window when you consider that Code: Veronica and 0 exist.

 

[BreakAtmo]

I'd love to see them do more in the vein of RE6's gameplay, keeping the locked 60fps of the remaster and the PC version that made it so fun to play.

Firstly, give me a 60fps Mercenaries game on Switch using RE6 gameplay and characters, enemies, weapons and maps from throughout the series.

 

[kromeo]

Action RE is fine as long as it's not too focused on melee combos and diving rolls, that's when it goes too far for me. A higher budget Revelations 2 is more what I'd want to see

 

[kc44135]

Agreed, OP. Action RE is fantastic, and should continue alongside Horror RE. Both offer something unique that you can't get anywhere else, and I personally would love another game with RE6's mechanics.

Why is "Action" Resident Evil so important?

We don't get a lot of well made AAA horror games these days. I'd rather Capcom make something more unique with the Resident Evil series.

The mechanics and ideas of RE6 could be implemented into other ips. They don't need to be stuck to Resident Evil, a series where such ideas eally don't fit at all.



That's exactly what they tried to do with RE6, and it was a critical failure as a result.

Why is Action RE important? Well, they're as unique as the Horror games are. There are no other action games that play like them. There's no games out there with the context sensitive melee of these games, the tense stop and pop gameplay of 4 and 5, or the sheer mobility and options of 6. They are every bit as deserving of existing as the classic games, or RE7.

Also, no offense, but neither you, nor I, nor critics get to decide what constitutes an RE game, or what ideas and concepts fit the series. That's Capcom's job, and there's alone. Mikami himself decided RE should veer towards action as well, just so ya know.

 

[BadWolf]

From a sales and popularity perspective action RE continuing should be a no brainer.

The haters can hate all they want but these games have sold extremely well and continue to sell well.

Also, no offense, but neither you, nor I, nor critics get to decide what constitutes an RE game, or what ideas and concepts fit the series. That's Capcom's job, and there's alone. Mikami himself decided RE should veer towards action as well, just so ya know.

He decided that for Evil Within as well.

 

[Gunslinger]

Why do people say RE7 doesn't have action? Did people not play the 3rd act?

 

[Jawmuncher]

Why do people say RE7 doesn't have action? Did people not play the 3rd act?

No one said it doesn't have action. But saying it's an action game is like saying REmake is an action because you have extra ammo at the end of it.

You can be a horror game and still have action in it. Doesn't mean you're an action game. I don't think anyone would take kindly to me saying RE6 was a horror game because it has zombies and scary monster designs.

 

[Gunslinger]

No one said it doesn't have action. But saying it's an action game is like saying REmake is an action because you have extra ammo at the end of it.

You can be a horror game and still have action in it. Doesn't mean you're an action game. I don't think anyone would take kindly to me saying RE6 was a horror game because it has zombies and scary monster designs.

True true.

 

[Ahasverus]

"This is not a 6 vs 7 thread" - Proceeds to base his entire thread on 6 vs 7.

Jaw pal, you're the most perseverant, fervent, one man local minority I've encountered, and I really, really applaud you for that.

Hope you get your wish of a kick ass action RE that everybody likes.

 

[Muchi Muchi Pink]

Still waiting for the true successor to 6.

 

[BadWolf]

Still waiting for the true successor to 6.

Those waiting for 6's successor may want to watch Vendetta in the mean time.

That hallway gun fight, oh boy.

 

[kc44135]

From a sales and popularity perspective action RE continuing should be a no brainer.

The haters can hate all they want but these games have sold extremely well and continue to sell well.



He decided that for Evil Within as well.

Yup, and that's why I loved that game (even if it's not quite the same style of gameplay).

Why do people say RE7 doesn't have action? Did people not play the 3rd act?

Because you can't suplex a Molded in RE7, that's why.

 

[Neff]

We were talking specifically about RE4, not the process that lead to how the original game was.

Whoops, you're right.

But on that subject, yes, the translators did gloss over the horror of RE4 slightly, instead preferring to portray the game in a more flippant light.

 

[Jawmuncher]

"This is not a 6 vs 7 thread" - Proceeds to base his entire thread on 6 vs 7.

Jaw pal, you're the most perseverant, fervent, one man local minority I've encountered, and I really, really applaud you for that.

Hope you get your wish of a kick ass action RE that everybody likes.

lol I'm trying man. I just used the two since they're the most recent versions of their styles. I just didn't want to make a thread that turned into why X is better than X. I just want both camps to get something.

 

[Ahasverus]

lol I'm trying man. I just used the two since they're the most recent versions of their styles. I just didn't want to make a thread that turned into why X is better than X. I just want both camps to get something.

Speaking of that. Aren't we expecting "not a hero" to be action oriented? I really doubt they'll make the Chris "campaign" horror themed.

 

[PantsuJo]

Jawmuncher, my dude.

Ask Capcom.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Speaking of that. Aren't we expecting "not a hero" to be action oriented? I really doubt they'll make the Chris "campaign" horror themed.

From Dusk Golems leak it's said to be. He apparently can punch molded and his gas mask has like HUD display

 

[almostjuliuscaesar]

If it has to be, just do it like 4 & not 6. Simple. I know they will make monetary based decisions, but aiming for good critical acclaim doesn't hurt either

 

[InsaneTiger]

I love Resident Evil in its many forms and I think 7 might be the actual best gameplay in the series but I do miss the characters and 3rd person perspective and hope they don't abandon it completely.

The plot is terrible and lore is real dumb and forgettable but I still want Jill, Leon, Claire, Ada, etc. to factor in to the future of the series. I also don't wan't co-op gameplay to go away. They've done it real well a couple times now and I want more of those experiences in the future.

Basically this, RE6 may be dumb as rocks but I am having fun playing the "remaster."

 

[Ahasverus]

From Dusk Golems leak it's said to be. He apparently can punch molded and his gas mask has like HUD display

See? Action RE is going nowhere. I'd actually appreciate if every RE game includes a horror campaign and an action campaign.

 

[striferser]

Let me just say that its almost a crime RE6 gameplay is not copied by other action shooter. The character movement is solid.

After watching Re vendetta, i want capcom to do a sequel or spiritual sequel of RE6 gameplay.

 

[Renna Hazel]

Why is "Action" Resident Evil so important?

We don't get a lot of well made AAA horror games these days. I'd rather Capcom make something more unique with the Resident Evil series.

The mechanics and ideas of RE6 could be implemented into other ips. They don't need to be stuck to Resident Evil, a series where such ideas eally don't fit at all.



That's exactly what they tried to do with RE6, and it was a critical failure as a result.

I wouldn't mind if they put the mechanics of RE4/5 into another game, but it's important because there are no other games that play like them. They're just as rare, if not more, than AAA horror games.

 

[BadWolf]

I wouldn't mind if they put the mechanics of RE4/5 into another game, but it's important because there are no other games that play like them. They're just as rare, if not more, than AAA horror games.

RE6, Vanquish and MGSV are basically in a class of their own when it comes to TPS action.

Such quality is very, very rare.

 

[Renna Hazel]

RE6, Vanquish and MGSV are basically in a class of their own when it comes to TPS action.

Such quality is very, very rare.

RE6 and Vanquish don't really play like RE4 does. Dunno about MGS5, never played that, but none of the other MGS games played like RE4.

 

[CyberChulo]

I love RE 5. I remember it coming out in June? I played the shit outta that till the end of the year. Finished it multiple times in SP, Co-op and Online.

 

[Astral Dog]

Your going to love this movie <3

 

[BadWolf]

RE6 and Vanquish don't really play like RE4 does. Dunno about MGS5, never played that, but none of the other MGS games played like RE4.

I was referring to quality TPS in general.

RE6's combat is an evolution of RE4's combat, a big step forward.

 

[kuYuri]

Going to try to watch RE Vendetta at AX on Saturday if I can get in line early enough.