Wildebeest
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So when Sony drop a dodgy port of an old single player game on steam they sell 50k copies for £100 instead of 200k copies for £50. Smart.Only for Playstation PC releases.
You know, for extra revenue.
So when Sony drop a dodgy port of an old single player game on steam they sell 50k copies for £100 instead of 200k copies for £50. Smart.Only for Playstation PC releases.
You know, for extra revenue.
We just got Armored Core VI last year that Mecha game, not a Souls game.They make the same simple game over and over again but slightly different from the last one.
Yup. Jack them prices up in the US. Im sick of them raising prices everywhere exceept there.
This, I dont need super expensive graphics in my games, FROM makes AMAZING games with beautiful aesthetics without over spending on the graphics....
This is something movie industry also needs to learn...
No he is probably a person with some sort of brain that knows it isn’t the consumers job to please the company that makes the product, it is theirs. It isn’t my job to pay more for someone to have a job, it is theirs to properly manage their manpower, financials, etc. These companies do not care for you or anyone else, they care about profits and they are making them.
When did we have this shift that we are supposed to support a company that their sole job is to make us want their product?
This is why I hate people measuring value by how many hours a game is "I'm not paying $60 for a one and done 15 hours game!"The cost of making games has gone up, this is true. The quality of games being released (in general) have not gone up. In fact, many would even argue that game quality has been going down and most of our time in games is spent doing monotonous tasks that serves as filler to elongate the time we play but not necessarily the amount of fun we have.
Well duh.No he is probably a person with some sort of brain that knows it isn’t the consumers job to please the company that makes the product, it is theirs. It isn’t my job to pay more for someone to have a job, it is theirs to properly manage their manpower, financials, etc. These companies do not care for you or anyone else, they care about profits and they are making them.
When did we have this shift that we are slipped to support a company that their sole job is to make us want their product?
Sony already has a huge lead, healthy software sales and tons of supplementary income from 30% of all sales on the console. If they can't fix their own development pipeline they deserve to be wiped from the industry. Every 3rd party publisher alive today that sells on PS makes due with no supplementary income, and have to forfeit 30% to Sony. If they can't work within a budget they are a endlessly growing cancer.Only for Playstation PC releases.
You know, for extra revenue.
I understand exchange rates. I dont care about them. Yes im being salty. Yes I know it'll never happen. Yes I know it makes no sense.Jack up the prices in the US because the price in Canada is $95?
Tell me you don't understand exchange rates without telling me you don't understand exchange rates.
You get what you pay for.So when Sony drop a dodgy port of an old single player game on steam they sell 50k copies for £100 instead of 200k copies for £50. Smart.
It's amazing to me in this economic climate that anyone would suggest paying more for absolutely anything. The videogame industry will adapt.
Simple, I don’t go to that shop or anywhere else I don’t agree with the prices. You do know you can give patronage to anywhere you feel, correct? I don’t get on my knees for any company much less a gaming company.There are plenty of games which you and the market wants, it's just apparently that a lot of people don't think they should have to pay a fair price for it. You think you should be able to get static or discounted prices even while the world situation means prices of everything else keep rising. You don't take your car into the shop for a repair and insist on paying the same price you would have paid in 2005, you'd be told to fuck off.
Exactly!Elden Ring cost less than Spider Man 2 and sold more.
The problem isnt the price of gaming, it's overbudging and corpo greed.
Not everyone is willing to pay $70 on games, specily if they suck or are Live Service.
$80-90 USD a game, I'd go there
How about £200 with even less effort put into it because they know only 10 people will buy it?You get what you pay for.
£50 for a dodgy port, or £100 for more effort put into it.
Simple, I don’t go to that shop or anywhere else I don’t agree with the prices. You do know you can give patronage to anywhere you feel, correct? I don’t get on my knees for any company much less a gaming company.
If I like the game I’ll buy for what price I want to, not what they want as I couldn’t care less about their company, their games, their people. Their job is to please me, not the other way around.
I just think it's funny how some PC gamers port-beg, act like Sony needs to release on PC because "lol low profits", but the moment we talk increased prices for games on PC suddenly Sony is very healthy and PC-ports are dodgy and not worth higher prices?Sony already has a huge lead, healthy software sales and tons of supplementary income from 30% of all sales on the console. If they can't fix their own development pipeline they deserve to be wiped from the industry. Every 3rd party publisher alive today that sells on PS makes due with no supplementary income, and have to forfeit 30% to Sony. If they can't work within a budget they are a endlessly growing cancer.
There's still literally no reason to charge more for a game on pc than console. The opposite is true. You're trolling.I just think it's funny how some PC gamers port-beg, act like Sony needs to release on PC because "lol low profits", but the moment we talk increased prices for games on PC suddenly Sony is very healthy and PC-ports are dodgy and not worth higher prices?
Literally the more bloated and big budget it is, the safer it is, the more mainstream it is, the more risk averse it is, the more loaded with DEI initiatives it is since they also had to borrow money from people pushing that. Big budget almost always comes at a huge cost that makes the product worse. And people want to pay more for this?Exactly!
budget of $225 million
budget $13 million
I was joking initially, but I don't see a reason why gameprices on PC shouldn't be raised.There's still literally no reason to charge more for a game on pc than console. You're trolling.
There's still literally no reason to charge more for a game on pc than console. The opposite is true. You're trolling.
Then they will close like a lot of businesses are doing. It isn’t my job to care at all. If you want that, good on you. There is plenty of room to save money on development costs. Their manpower, their pay wages, voice actors, etc.In the case of the car repair industry, you aren't going to find people (who you'd trust to do it right anyway) charging 2005 prices. Their labour rates have gone up, the price of parts has gone up, and so the price you pay goes up, just like your own income no doubt has since 2005. Insisting on being tight-fisted will simply result in the industry collapsing, or at least shrinking to the point where only simpler games are made.
In a purely hypothetical scenario this would force them to at least be more sure of what projects get the green light versus throwing crap at the wall just to see what sticks.I am fine with $100 games and $1000 consoles but it has to be a game I want to play which neither MS nor Playstation has delivered to me that game I need in my life
Your opinion and loving Gamepass says it all. You should just quit gaming.Fuck no. Every company can die before I consider $120 a game lol. What an absurd strategy.
You're funding rich west coast devs going to knitting clubs lol. Keep your money.
This is why I love Gamepass. I literally would be fine with indies and backlog. It can all die.
What PC gamers have been doing works. They have the lowest prices of anyone, and everyone puts their games on PC now. Think about that. It's not your job to support a company that is gouging you. You already pay almost $700 over 7 years just to take your console online. Wake up man. They literally just did a +30% hike on PS+.I just think it's funny how some PC gamers port-beg, act like Sony needs to release on PC because "lol low profits", but the moment we talk increased prices for games on PC suddenly Sony is very healthy and PC-ports are dodgy and not worth higher prices?
I doubt the cost of porting these games is substantial though. The PC market is supplemental income for Sony. Their bread and butter are always going to be consoles. Besides PC gamers have been conditioned for decades to pay less. If you start charging more they aren't buying.Sony games on Steam do cost more than they do on PSN FWIW. The price will be determined by market forces, what people can and also are prepared to pay.
*old man voice*
In 1995, I paid $100.00 here in New Zealand a game for my SNES, today in 2024, I paid $100.00 here in New Zealand for a game for my Switch...I didn't feel like I was being ripped off in 1995, so why is it a rip now to adjust?
Also, not all games have those wretched things you describe, and the live service games that are doing it right? (nudge nudge HD2), they are charging bugger all - they need all the $$ they can get to buy servers the size of the Kink.com building.
Unless what PC has been doing isn't really working anymore.What PC gamers have been doing works. They have the lowest prices of anyone, and everyone puts their games on PC now. Think about that. It's not your job to support a company that is gouging you. You already pay almost $700 over 7 years just to take your console online. Wake up man.
Just hypothetically speaking, if the industry decides to raise prices on PC releases, what are PC gamers going to do?I doubt the cost of porting these games is substantial though. The PC market is supplemental income for Sony. Their bread and butter are always going to be consoles. Besides PC gamers have been conditioned for decades to pay less. If you start charging more they aren't buying.
Even if you ignore in game monetisation and the pay to play online, the ‘$70 in 1970 plus inflation’ argument still makes no sense.
New and emergent mainstream technology always costs a lot initially and then comes down over time as more players enter the market and the technology matures.
In 10 years time you’ll be able to get technology that’s better than the Apple Vision Pro at less than half the price. You’d be a clown to say ‘well the Vision Pro cost £5k in 2024 so it should cost £9k in today’s money’.
Music CDs cost between $15 and $20 in the 90s and early 00s. That doesn’t mean they should cost £50 today. But what about production costs? Said no one ever.
I thought your takes on anything PC gaming were already stupid, but holy hell....They make the same simple game over and over again but slightly different from the last one.
In the case of the car repair industry, you aren't going to find people (who you'd trust to do it right anyway) charging 2005 prices. Their labour rates have gone up, the price of parts has gone up, and so the price you pay goes up, just like your own income no doubt has since 2005. Insisting on being tight-fisted will simply result in the industry collapsing, or at least shrinking to the point where only simpler games are made.
Why are you putting any amount of blame on pc gaming? Sony is a console-first company. This isn't ms that puts games out day and date.Unless what PC has been doing isn't really working anymore.
Maybe that cheapskate mindset is part of why the industry is suffering.